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question everything

(47,470 posts)
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:40 PM Aug 2018

Another scam?

These days when we answer the phone (no, no caller iD) there is a complete silence. Not even the background of the robocalls waiting for a phone pickup. Just silence. One time I decided to stay on the line until the recording: if you want to make a call.. etc.

What is the purpose? To confirm it is a live number? If so, how often do "they" have to do this? Appears now to be every other day and the last two - really pissed us off - at 8:00 am. We are retired, we are not awake at 8:00 am unless there is an appointment.

Anyone?

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Another scam? (Original Post) question everything Aug 2018 OP
I get those phone calls all the time kimbutgar Aug 2018 #1
Blocking Does Not Work LandOfHopeAndDreams Aug 2018 #3
Sadly this is correct. tymorial Aug 2018 #7
I moved a year ago l had to change my number which demosincebirth Aug 2018 #18
I just moved too but I am getting calls for the previous owner of this number tymorial Aug 2018 #20
IF you couldn't keep your old number, they should have given you a new number. demosincebirth Aug 2018 #24
We received 19 such calls Friday. guillaumeb Aug 2018 #2
If it is a local number...they even use names and city names, now... Frustratedlady Aug 2018 #8
I've gotten to where unless I see the name and I know it, I don't answer. CurtEastPoint Aug 2018 #4
Yep. Same here. Silver Gaia Aug 2018 #5
NoMoRobo is great! The phone rings only once and then the call is transferred The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #14
Yeah, I love it! Silver Gaia Aug 2018 #17
I'm the same way kimbutgar Aug 2018 #6
Last week these suckers were using WalMarts Regional Call Wellstone ruled Aug 2018 #9
Lots of different sources and reasons for the phone calls. PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #10
Yes, but at least someone is on the line question everything Aug 2018 #13
I also get the IRS phone calls, although for me PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #15
It's probably automated phone dialing. Fla Dem Aug 2018 #11
Bingo! That's exactly what's happening. SeattleVet Aug 2018 #26
look at the number of people on this thread NJCher Aug 2018 #12
Would texting help? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #16
I get junk texts from number like 140011123 about f'ing mortgage rates, etc. CurtEastPoint Aug 2018 #21
I thought cell phones were not supposed to PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2018 #23
They are not supposed to, but remember - these are criminals we are talking about. SeattleVet Aug 2018 #27
If I was paying for their phones they would surely answer, or no phone, demosincebirth Aug 2018 #25
I always said I'd never text, either, but it seems like everyone does and it is efficient Rhiannon12866 Aug 2018 #19
I have caller ID and an answering machine. If I don't recognize the caller, I don't answer. Fla Dem Aug 2018 #22
I was getting tons of robo calls on my cell every day - then I lost my phone, got a new one demosincebirth Aug 2018 #28
If I don't know the number, I don't pick it up sakabatou Aug 2018 #29

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
1. I get those phone calls all the time
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:43 PM
Aug 2018

Now when I get them I put the call blocker on the number. Some days I never get them and then it’ll be crazy one day and I get several. Lot of them are the same three prefix of my number.

 
3. Blocking Does Not Work
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:46 PM
Aug 2018

They call from a phone bank, so the next time they call back, it will be from a different rotary line. You block 454-2954, the next call is from 454-2961.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
7. Sadly this is correct.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:57 PM
Aug 2018

Most of the calls are voip spoofs so blocking isnt going to stop them. You can continue to block and it may help to a point. Eventually the calls will stop until your number is resold or stolen from another database and then it begins all over again. FTC and State AG complaints are largely useless because that only works if you can actually find out who is calling.

The DNC list only works for reputable telemarketers. Those who harass us are not among those groups. So long as spoofing is a viable technology, we will have to deal with this.

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
18. I moved a year ago l had to change my number which
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 02:41 AM
Aug 2018

I’v had for 40 years and many robo calls a day. Piece and quite for a year, now. No unwanted calls - just wrong numbers every now and then

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
20. I just moved too but I am getting calls for the previous owner of this number
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 07:37 AM
Aug 2018

Its the same damn person everytime and the numbers just rotate between private caller and a spoof. Its irritating.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
2. We received 19 such calls Friday.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:43 PM
Aug 2018

Not one left a message on our machine. Most presented as a local number as well.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
8. If it is a local number...they even use names and city names, now...
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 10:01 PM
Aug 2018

I let it ring the usual 4 times and when they are disconnected, I hit the call button and call them right back. With the exception of 1 or 2, they have been numbers no longer in operation.

CurtEastPoint

(18,639 posts)
4. I've gotten to where unless I see the name and I know it, I don't answer.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:48 PM
Aug 2018

They never leave messages. Waste of their time and I haven't wasted mine.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,674 posts)
14. NoMoRobo is great! The phone rings only once and then the call is transferred
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:09 AM
Aug 2018

to NoMoRobo's message that the number isn't accepting the call.

kimbutgar

(21,130 posts)
6. I'm the same way
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 09:56 PM
Aug 2018

Until I hear my recording machine with a message from a real person. I don’t pick up my phone.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. Last week these suckers were using WalMarts Regional Call
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 10:19 PM
Aug 2018

Centers number in Watertown South Dakota. 605 area code. Bet the WalMart did not like it when people called back.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,845 posts)
10. Lots of different sources and reasons for the phone calls.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 11:28 PM
Aug 2018

I always answer my phone by saying, "Hello. This is Poindexter." If someone then asks to speak to Poindexter, my usual response is to say, "Apparently you weren't listening when I answered the phone. I'll hang up now, you can call back, and listen to how I answer."

I actually understand that a lot of these calls are computer generated, and don't patch the real person through until it determines that a live person, no an answering machine, has picked up. I don't care. I find that to be offensive and demeaning.

Much of the time I don't answer, especially if caller ID works (which it only does about a third of the time) and I don't recognize the number.

question everything

(47,470 posts)
13. Yes, but at least someone is on the line
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:08 AM
Aug 2018

We get many of those from "Rachel" or "Veronica" or the caller - always a woman - starts talking about our credit cards. Last week I actually got a call from the IRS... The worse, aimed at seniors, is "responding to an inquiry" when seniors may not remember whether they made any inquiries.

All these are scams to get money. What I don't understand is the purpose of these empty calls.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,845 posts)
15. I also get the IRS phone calls, although for me
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:46 AM
Aug 2018

it's always a man on the line.

I do get my share of "responding to an inquiry" when I know perfectly well I made no inquiry. Oh, and then there's the ubiquitous person with a strong Indian accent telling me there's a problem with my computer.

I am likewise a senior, but still sufficiently cognizant that I don't I don't fall for such crap.

I don't get the empty calls, so I'm as puzzled as you are to their purpose. Unless you happen to be someone that potential robbers are calling to see if someone is home before they break in. If that's the case, good thing you're home. Otherwise, I hope someone else here can offer some insight.

Fla Dem

(23,650 posts)
11. It's probably automated phone dialing.
Sun Aug 5, 2018, 11:33 PM
Aug 2018

A computer program automatically calls numbers as a phone becomes available, multiple numbers at a time. Once a number is answered, it disconnects the ones not answered. That’s my guess.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
26. Bingo! That's exactly what's happening.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:58 PM
Aug 2018

Telemarketers are supposed to fall under a certain percentage of 'dropped' calls, but these scammers are all breaking at least one or two laws anyway, so why would one more bother them?

NJCher

(35,654 posts)
12. look at the number of people on this thread
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:01 AM
Aug 2018

who say they no longer answer the phone (and I don't blame them). These kinds of calls have led to the "death" of the phone as a useful tool in getting things done. I have certain people I need to get a hold of, yet I know I don't stand a chance of reaching them and that my call will only be one step toward possibly talking to them. That's because they, too are so sick of bogus phone calls that they no longer answer.

Frankly, I prefer email, but sometimes the immediacy of the phone is helpful. And no, I don't text, so that is not an option.


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,845 posts)
16. Would texting help?
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 12:47 AM
Aug 2018

I learned some years back that my sons were highly unlikely to answer a call from me, but would respond to a text.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,845 posts)
23. I thought cell phones were not supposed to
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 02:04 PM
Aug 2018

get junk stuff like that.

Lucky me, the only texts I get are from real people or when my cell phone provider is telling me I've just paid my bill.

SeattleVet

(5,477 posts)
27. They are not supposed to, but remember - these are criminals we are talking about.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:00 PM
Aug 2018

Mostly out of the country, using spoofed Caller ID over VOIP connections. What do they care about breaking several more laws, as long as they get a few suckers to fall for their scams?

Rhiannon12866

(205,200 posts)
19. I always said I'd never text, either, but it seems like everyone does and it is efficient
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 04:02 AM
Aug 2018

Not for long conversations, but it's great for short timely messages like "I'm on my way..."

And you're right, often I don't even look at the land line. There's caller ID and it's usually from a place I've never been - or even heard of.

Fla Dem

(23,650 posts)
22. I have caller ID and an answering machine. If I don't recognize the caller, I don't answer.
Mon Aug 6, 2018, 10:33 AM
Aug 2018

If it's important enough, they can leave a message, cell or landline. If they don't, no skin off my nose.

demosincebirth

(12,536 posts)
28. I was getting tons of robo calls on my cell every day - then I lost my phone, got a new one
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:02 PM
Aug 2018

( same number). I haven't had an unwanted call since. Very strange.

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