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Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:32 AM

Actor association.....fill in the actor of today that reminds you of these actors of the old days...

Cary Grant = George Clooney. and that’s as far as I can go......
Jimmy Stewart =
Rock Hudson. =
Tony Curtis =
Fred Astaire. =
Paul Newman =

Lauren Bacall. =
Deborah Kerr =
Betty Davis =
Marilyn Monroe. =


Been watching a lot of TCM of late, and really miss some of these old actors male and female. Guess it is a different time now.....

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Reply Actor association.....fill in the actor of today that reminds you of these actors of the old days... (Original post)
a kennedy Nov 2017 OP
Freddie Nov 2017 #1
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dewsgirl Nov 2017 #3
a kennedy Nov 2017 #5
LisaM Nov 2017 #4
a kennedy Nov 2017 #6
LisaM Nov 2017 #7
hibbing Nov 2017 #12
Glorfindel Nov 2017 #8
femmocrat Nov 2017 #9
a kennedy Nov 2017 #10
femmocrat Nov 2017 #11
Thor_MN Nov 2017 #15
malthaussen Dec 2017 #19
smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #31
Orrex Dec 2017 #33
pressbox69 Dec 2017 #32
Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #13
a kennedy Nov 2017 #14
Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #16
malthaussen Dec 2017 #18
Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #20
malthaussen Dec 2017 #22
Drahthaardogs Dec 2017 #24
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sl8 Dec 2017 #21
whistler162 Nov 2017 #17
ChubbyStar Dec 2017 #23
Demoiselle Dec 2017 #25
Leith Dec 2017 #26
a kennedy Dec 2017 #27
Leith Dec 2017 #28
malthaussen Dec 2017 #30
red dog 1 Dec 2017 #34
a kennedy Dec 2017 #35
pressbox69 Dec 2017 #37
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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:39 AM

1. Jimmy Stewart Tom Hanks

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Response to Freddie (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:40 AM

2. Ya, I see that.......

Jimmy Stewart is one of my all time favorites.......

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:52 AM

3. Not great at this, Neil Patrick Harris Fred Astair.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:09 AM

5. Ya, ya, both song and dance men.......good.

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 07:53 AM

4. Lauren Bacall. Cate Blanchett

Her performance in "Carol" was a throwback to glamour days.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:10 AM

6. Have not seen Carol, but love Cate......great actor.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:13 AM

7. I highly recommend it.

Along with the book it's based on. It got very unfairly buried at the Oscars.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 02:52 PM

12. Carol

Such a quiet and interesting movie. Both women are gorgeous. Rooney Mara was so cute in that movie.


Peace

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:02 AM

8. Tony Curtis Robert Downey, Jr.

Deborah Kerr = Michelle Dockery (Lady Mary Crawley)

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:45 AM

9. Does it seem to anyone else that this latest group of actors is not that memorable?

They kind of all look alike to me. Maybe it's because I haven't seen their movies. I kept seeing Idris Elba mentioned for "Sexiest Man" and I had no idea who he was.

Those old-time actors, and even the ones from the 1960s-70s-80s, seemed so much more glamorous and distinctive looking. (I sound like an old fogey.) I can visualize every one of those names, but wouldn't be able to identify any of the current crop of Ryans and Chrises.

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:48 AM

10. Ha ha my husband says the same thing.......that they all look alike.

Even says that about country singers of today....he’s so old country, the true twang country singers.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #10)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 09:49 AM

11. Oh yes!

Not only do they look alike, to my untrained ear, they all sound alike!

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 04:02 PM

15. Primacy effect. The "Old-Time" actors are more memorable because you knew them first.

 

The Recency effect is diluted due to the broader spread of media. There simply are more actors now, so none of them are as memorable. Back then, the relatively smaller number of movie studios, the contract systems and virtual lack of any television productions like that that exist today, resulted in greater saturation of "stars". You saw the same actors in many more productions because that was the recipe for success then.

Today's actors are more concerned about type casting and studios are reluctant to go to "star power" due to budget concerns, today's star command a far higher salary than the contract actors of yore.

How could one possibly remember actors that they have never seen?

Being a very tail end 'boomer" (1962), I know the listed actors from seeing movies on TV and cable. If I asked my niece about any of the listed, she would know Jimmy Stewart solely due to "It's a Wonderful Life" and Marilyn Monroe due to static pictures only or people impersonating her. The others, she would not recognize at all. There are "stars" today that my response would be "Who is that?"

I believe that actors should be known for their own body of work and not as a rehashed version of a former actor. Stars are stars in their own right. The entire premise of this thread is flawed in my opinion. The greats of yesteryear will fade with the memory of those who made them great. They will be replaced by newer actors who will be much more memorable to the relevant generations, who will in turn fade and be replaced.

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Response to Thor_MN (Reply #15)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:37 AM

19. I'm sure it's just old-fogeyism...

.. but few actors of today seem to me to be able to summon the gravitas of actors of earlier days. Of course, there is the reverse problem: the Golden Age was plagued with overactors and poor technicians, whereas today even the children are seasoned professionals.

And there are some actors who are clearly brilliant, but they are immersed in a sea of pretty non-entities.

I'll agree that the premise of the thread is flawed. Any comparison is bound to make somebody wince. Or commit video-screen violence.

-- Mal

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Mon Dec 4, 2017, 10:28 PM

31. Yes, totally agree.

The new guard can't hold a candle to the glamorous stars of old Hollywood. Neither in talent or in star power.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 03:25 PM

33. And these new stars won't get off of your lawn!

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Response to femmocrat (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 01:05 AM

32. Even Johnny Depp and Leonardo D are getting old.

Seems most of the great actors these days are British or Australian.

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:34 PM

13. Paul Newman Brad Pitt

Very good to great actors who were both kind of pretty boys.

Rock Hudson = Tom Selleck, more rugged leading men type.

Betty Davis = Meryl Streep. Premier actresses of their time.

Marilyn Monroe = Jessica Simpson. Blonde bombshells who really cannot act but tremendous sex appeal.


What do you think?

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 03:44 PM

14. These could be our winners so far.....all excellent....

Bravo Drahthaardogs.

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 05:36 PM

16. I would actually say Audrey Hepburn is closer to

Meryl Streep than Betty Davis, but it's close, maybe too close to call.

Anna Nicole Smith was always compared to Marilyn, but Smith never really acted in movies plus she has passed so I DQ'd her.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #16)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:31 AM

18. Audrey Hepburn and Meryl Streep?

In what way are these actresses comparable?

And please, it's Bette Davis, not "Betty."


There's a cute scene in "NCIS" where diNozzo is appalled at McGee because the latter doesn't know who Gary Cooper is. Sic transit gloria mundi, and Tuesday's not much better.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 10:59 AM

20. Autocorrect does not like Bette

And Streep and Hepburn are both considered the top actresses of their generation. In terms of accomplishment, I think both are comparable.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #20)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 10:04 AM

22. Considering just academy awards...

Audrey has one and Meryl has four. As for nominations, there is no comparison. As to range -- well, I think Audrey was a lovable-enough gamin, but Meryl Streep can play anything and has played everything.

Now, Kate Hepburn has the same number of Oscars as Meryl Streep, but no one would accuse her of great range ("The full gamut of emotions from A to B," I believe Dorothy Parker said). She just did a good job playing Kate Hepburn. But in the sole criterion of being awarded the Oscar, she can match Meryl. But IMO, they aren't comparable as actresses, since Meryl has demonstrated considerably more range and depth.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 12:05 PM

24. Considering Academy Awards is like using the Hall of Fame

As your sports criterion. Jerry Jones got in....

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #24)

Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:54 AM

29. Oh, I agree...

... I think Halls of Fame basically suck. But comparing Oscars is a quasi-objective measure; in the absence of any other, it's okay for ballpark estimates.

But after all, Donald Trump has a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, so we must be wary.

-- Mal

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Response to malthaussen (Reply #18)

Fri Dec 1, 2017, 11:11 AM

21. Gosh, I hope Gloria is feeling better.

Sorry to say, mass transit is not for everyone.

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 08:15 PM

17. Louis Armstrong - Forest Whitaker

Always thought he would do a good job in a bio picture of Satchmo.

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 11:28 AM

23. Errol Flynn--Orlando Bloom

Gorgeous facial bones!

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:15 PM

25. I think it's almost impossible to compare today's actors with the actors of the old days..

Back in the old days, the movie star's persona was carefully crafted not just by the actor himself…but by the whole studio system. The system was a protection, of course, but it probably limited a few people as well.
Actors these days are out there pretty much on their own. (I feel I know George Clooney a bit. There's no way I can possibly really know Cary Grant. But I love them both.)

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:38 PM

26. Here Are a Couple

Katherine Hepburn and Kate Mulgrew



Errol Flynn and Kevin Kline






YMMV

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Response to Leith (Reply #26)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:40 PM

27. Wow.....those photos of Flynn and Kline are very similar

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 2, 2017, 02:50 PM

28. It Helps When You Have Dozens of Each to Choose From

and if you've seen Kline as the Pirate King in Pirates of Penzance and Errol Flynn as Robin Hood.

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Response to Leith (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 3, 2017, 09:58 AM

30. That's true, that is...

... the same person can look completely different in another picture.

And let's not even talk about hair color... I have three pix of Lauren Bacall that Bogey took over a year's time. In the first she's blonde, in the second, brunette, and in the last she has auburn hair. Since Bogey called her "Reds" in a black-and-white film, I'm betting that the latter was her "real" hair color.

-- Mal

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:06 PM

34. Jack Nicholson -- Christian Slater

Nicholson is not really "of the old days" like Jimmy Stewart, Tony Curtis or Rock Hudson,
but at 80 he's still going strong.
Christian Slater looks and talks like him, imo, and he's only 48

Scarlett Johansson reminds me of Ingrid Bergman

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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:12 PM

35. Yah, ive Heard Christians Jack and loved it........

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Response to red dog 1 (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:41 PM

37. Michael Keaton reminds me of Jack.

Something about the eyes and the delivery.

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 08:53 PM

36. Heddy Lamar - Gal Gadot

One was a beautiful non-American actress who some say was an inspiration for Wonder Woman's 'look.'
One is a beautiful non-American actress and IS Wonder Woman!

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Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Tue Dec 5, 2017, 10:43 PM

38. Liam Neeson is the current day Gary Cooper.

Neeson should do a remake of High Noon.

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