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alp227

(32,006 posts)
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 02:25 AM Feb 2013

Atty. General - Monumental Coward?



"In short, the Justice Department argued that it was lawful for the government to kill an American citizen if "an informed, high-level official" decided that the target was a ranking figure in Al Qaeda who posed "an imminent threat of violent attack against the United States" and if his capture was not feasible. While the administration's basic legal conclusions had already been aired — including in speeches by Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. and other officials — the white paper provided a far more detailed legal justification.

Some human rights groups dismissed it in language reminiscent of their critiques of the Bush administration's legal opinions on torture, taking particular aim at its flexible definition of what might constitute an "imminent" threat and the lack of any outside check on its claimed authority."*

In response to outrage over the leaked white paper memo, Attorney General Eric Holder differentiated between an imminent and immediate threat in ordered killings based on secret evidence. How is Holder handling his duties, and why does Cenk Uygur consider him to be a monumental coward?

*Read more from The New York Times

(This video is from the TYT bonus channel youtube.com/tytshows. Most likely from the Feb. 6 Current TV show.)
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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
14. IOKIYAD doesn't work any better than IOKIYAR
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:03 PM
Feb 2013

We're still being screwed by bankers with impunity, we're still living with an administration that thinks it can circumvent our rights based on secret evidence.

And that's still wrong.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
4. I never thought there would be a worse AG
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 04:02 AM
Feb 2013

than Alberto "Fredo" Gonzales, then along comes Eric "Pot Buster" Holder.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
5. Amen to that.
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 05:04 AM
Feb 2013

Speedy lowered the bar and holder was happy w/ the fit.

Remember when the AG was a position of respect? A defender of civil rights? I guess I'm getting old.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
12. They all want weak, co-opted AG's so they can do what they want. He has practically performed
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 10:12 AM
Feb 2013

oral sex on BP! I know what our office gave to him on BP and there was enough to arrest several top people at BP. We just fine them and "move everyone along, nothing here to see!" He can kiss my ass!

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
6. Chris Hedges, who is often roundly condemned here when he says
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:49 AM
Feb 2013

something less than worshipful about Pres. Obama, spoke out, early on, against the Iraq war.

When he was "guilded" (put on notice by the NYT and told to get with the program), QUIT HIS JOB rather than compromise his integrity.

Next time there's some "drive by" attack on Mr. Hedges because he continues to raise the alarm about our march into fascism in this country, that inconvenient fact needs to be remembered.

Eric holder is a disgrace to this country. And what does that say about Obama, who continues to support him?

 

triplepoint

(431 posts)
7. Remember AGs, Ed Meese, John Ashcroft, & John Mitchell?
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 06:50 AM
Feb 2013

Ed "Sleeze" Meese
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Meese

John "Asshat" Ashcroft
http://www.thefullwiki.org/John_Ashcroft

John Mitchell
- dick nixon's AG. He at least went to prison for awhile for his involvement in Watergate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_N._Mitchell

How do we manage out of ALL the people who could qualify for AG, to end up with crooks, liars, and cowards for AGs every damn time?




 

plethoro

(594 posts)
8. Holder is no more an attorney general than I am... Are there folks here that are starting to
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 07:21 AM
Feb 2013

understand where we're going? When the drones are all in place and everyone is made impotent in self-protection, how exactly are you going to stop the government from appropriating your Social Security? Can there be a time-out for liberalism where we have to hop in the ring ourselves just to protect our families?

drynberg

(1,648 posts)
11. HOLDER IS JUST A BOUGHT TOOL
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 09:27 AM
Feb 2013

Toughest part of his job is half-assed pretending to do his job and not even starting to do it. Gotta think that HIS BOSS has the same shit on his hands...I'm sad to say. This is not working out well...

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
13. And isn't it just ducky that he is one of the few cabinet members
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 12:18 PM
Feb 2013

staying on for the second term. Must have done his job just as desired.

formercia

(18,479 posts)
15. Eric 'Chiquita Banana' Holder
Fri Feb 8, 2013, 01:26 PM
Feb 2013

Holder is a fairly young guy. How is he going to make his Nut after he's done as AG? All the good jobs are for the Corporations and Banksters he should be prosecuting. What, he should be a cloistered Monk for the rest of his Life? He's just looking out for 'Number One.'

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