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BlueGreenLady | Apr 2021 | OP |
FreepFryer | Apr 2021 | #1 | |
fpublic | Apr 2021 | #2 | |
BlueGreenLady | Apr 2021 | #3 | |
FreepFryer | Apr 2021 | #4 | |
FreepFryer | Apr 2021 | #6 | |
markpkessinger | Apr 2021 | #7 | |
FreepFryer | Apr 2021 | #8 | |
DFW | Apr 2021 | #5 |
Response to BlueGreenLady (Original post)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:12 PM
FreepFryer (6,973 posts)
1. Thom Hartmann was supported by Russia Today, a registered agent of Russian military intelligence.
Time for new voices.
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Response to BlueGreenLady (Original post)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 04:17 PM
fpublic (54 posts)
2. Is that you Joe McCarthy?
Thom Hartmann has more wisdom and deeper analysis in the punctuation in his sentences than a hysterical pearl-clutching freeper has in its McCarthyite fantasy about seeing evil in RT sponsorship.
I have read Hartmann for over a decade and he is no Russian dupe. He is a true-blue small-d democrat who deserves to be read widely, particularly on Democratic Underground. |
Response to fpublic (Reply #2)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 07:32 PM
BlueGreenLady (2,721 posts)
3. Thank you for this defense of Thom Hartmann
I think Thom Hartmann became associated with Russia when Russia was going through Glasnost, or freedom, after Gorbachev left office. He was supportive of Russian democratic reform, which we all hoped would take place in Russia. Thom Hartmann left RT after Putin regained power for himself and the oligarchs in Russia. I do not think he is a Russian sympathizer. He always has a good in depth radio program relating to political history that we all need to remember in this country. He recalls things like Reganomics and Newt Gingrich's Contract on America which we need to remember so America doesn't repeat it's trickle down economic errors forever. I like his show and always learn something from it.
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Response to BlueGreenLady (Reply #3)
Sat Apr 17, 2021, 09:00 PM
FreepFryer (6,973 posts)
4. Plenty of journalists didn't accept support from Russia's propaganda arm. Disqualifying. (Nt)
Response to fpublic (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:42 AM
FreepFryer (6,973 posts)
6. "New McCarthyism" was the Russian go-to accusation against anyone suspicious of "collusion," too.
Welcome to DU!
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Response to FreepFryer (Reply #6)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:51 AM
markpkessinger (8,159 posts)
7. Just because Russia used it in a specious manner . . .
. . . doesn't mean that all references to neo-McCarthyism are invalid. What is your disagreementn with the substance of what Hartmannj has said here?
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Response to markpkessinger (Reply #7)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:26 PM
FreepFryer (6,973 posts)
8. My objection is to former business associates of Russian Intelligence whitewashing said fact. (nt)
Response to BlueGreenLady (Original post)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:52 AM
DFW (50,509 posts)
5. I need to listen to this and hear Thom out
On the surface, the headline is one with which I disagree totally. The fact that the Republicans have gone over to the darker side of the dark side does not indicate they are in peril any more than the Democratic Party was in peril after the stolen election of 2000. Some re-thinking took place, and of the two schools of thought that emerged, the victorious one that put Obama into the White House turned out to not be so completely different from the one that lost out (HRC).
With the Republicans, they, as well as their all-important financiers and well-funded propagandists, have already made the decision to go full extremist: blatant voter suppression, full enabling of the God Squad, and total surrender to polluters and libertarian versions of financing of health care and education. There is nothing left to purge. Those Republicans with leftover vestiges of decency, logic, or benevolence have either left the party altogether, or else resigned themselves to hanging on to the label because re-election in their state/district is wholly dependent on their doing so (wup-wup-Mitt-Romney style). The Republicans, as I see it, are not in trouble. The one who are in trouble are the ones who long for a return to the Republicans of Gerry Ford. As things stand now, there is more chance of a revival of the Iroquois Confederation, or refunding France's money and giving them back the Louisiana Purchase. |