Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:08 AM
EarlG (20,315 posts)
Pic Of The Moment: Republicans Then: Party Of Lincoln. Republicans Now...![]() Republicans warn Democrats against impeaching Trump again Member of Senate GOP leadership: Impeaching Trump 'not going to happen' The problem with the GOP pushback against Trump's impeachment Republicans Own This Insurrection Follow @demunderground ![]()
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Author | Time | Post |
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EarlG | Jan 2021 | OP |
underpants | Jan 2021 | #1 | |
central scrutinizer | Jan 2021 | #2 | |
Initech | Jan 2021 | #6 | |
Aussie105 | Jan 2021 | #21 | |
Initech | Jan 2021 | #24 | |
2naSalit | Jan 2021 | #7 | |
gademocrat7 | Jan 2021 | #3 | |
Harker | Jan 2021 | #4 | |
Initech | Jan 2021 | #5 | |
TigressDem | Jan 2021 | #8 | |
dixiegrrrrl | Jan 2021 | #18 | |
TigressDem | Jan 2021 | #26 | |
sandensea | Jan 2021 | #9 | |
Ilsa | Jan 2021 | #27 | |
Marthe48 | Jan 2021 | #10 | |
NotANeocon | Jan 2021 | #19 | |
KS Toronado | Jan 2021 | #11 | |
PoliWrangler | Jan 2021 | #13 | |
KS Toronado | Jan 2021 | #15 | |
Marthe48 | Jan 2021 | #22 | |
keithbvadu2 | Jan 2021 | #12 | |
Dorn | Jan 2021 | #14 | |
KS Toronado | Jan 2021 | #16 | |
Gothmog | Jan 2021 | #17 | |
Hiawatha Pete | Jan 2021 | #20 | |
BobTheSubgenius | Jan 2021 | #23 | |
Beartracks | Jan 2021 | #25 |
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:12 AM
underpants (176,671 posts)
1. LOOK! We lost control of our people years ago
Sorry, probably shoulda given everyone a “heads up” on that.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:17 AM
central scrutinizer (11,345 posts)
2. Party of John Wilkes Booth now
Just sayin’
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Response to central scrutinizer (Reply #2)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:20 AM
Initech (97,186 posts)
6. And Charles Manson, and Ted Bundy, and Son Of Sam, and Hannibal Lecter...
And Tony Montana, and Atilla The Hun.
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Response to Initech (Reply #6)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:48 PM
Aussie105 (4,197 posts)
21. Atilla the Hun?
I think I saw him in the DC Capitol Building invasion? Sure of it!
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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #21)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Initech (97,186 posts)
24. I'd even throw Genghis Khan and Jeffrey Dahmer in the mix!
Maybe the Heaven's Gate guy too just for measure!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:18 AM
Harker (12,450 posts)
4. "I lost the one that insured peace in our time...
this is just my gas bill."
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:18 AM
Initech (97,186 posts)
5. Also Republicans then: Fuck your feelings! There are no safe spaces in the real world!
Now: It's my party and I'll cry if I want to!
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:30 AM
TigressDem (4,914 posts)
8. Well, maybe they all should follow Colin Powell and abandon the dregs of the party. nt
Response to TigressDem (Reply #8)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 04:44 PM
dixiegrrrrl (60,005 posts)
18. Except it took THIS to move Powell away from the GOP
Doesn't count, in my book. Any Republicans still standing after the attempts/vows to steal the election get no pass, either. any republicans who change their status to anything but Dem. get no pass. What's that line????? oh, yeah."but I'm Swiss", said every German arrested at the end of WW2. |
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #18)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 PM
TigressDem (4,914 posts)
26. Some Republicans, old ones, have some principals.
I am not saying he is perfect, but as a respected leader among his own this is a strong message that others can use to give themselves the freedom to leave and start anew.
It is messed up. You are right. It shouldn't take this much but no one is able to see their own blind spots without severe assistance at times. He's also voted for DEMs in 2016 and 2020. So it's not like he hasn't already supported us even while retaining his party status. WHEN you have a high ranking Republican willing to use their brain cells and do the proper thing, even if it seems like it took forever to get there, you have an ally. WE don't want to have to clean up this mess all by ourselves. Powell isn't the only military person to say "No" to insurrection. I don't hate Republicans. I hate violent white supremacist behavior. I hate people being treated unequally under the law. I hate phoniness. WHEN there are people on the other side of the isle with SOME integrity left, THOSE people I can work with. Just saying. |
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:02 PM
sandensea (19,385 posts)
9. Less often mentioned, was the fact that most UK aristocracy supported Hitler
True, they didn't didn't just how monstrous he and his regime were - but, like many U.S. CEOs, they were downright giddy over his union-busting and police state tactics.
Chamberlain was bowing to pressure from them, as much as from Hitler. And so it is with Big Business today and Trump: with him, they finally got the puppet president they wanted - only the puppet turned out to be Chucky. |
Response to sandensea (Reply #9)
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:06 AM
Ilsa (61,206 posts)
27. I heard that members of the aristocracy thought they
could essentially make a deal with Hitler: they would effect a surrender if Hitler left their class, most of their assets, alone. Yeah, right. Like he did the nobility of Germany.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:52 PM
Marthe48 (13,036 posts)
10. My American history teacher said hitler wanted
piece: a piece of Austria, a piece of Czech, a piece of Poland. Never forgot that
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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #10)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:10 PM
NotANeocon (410 posts)
19. That was called "Lebensraum"
It meant taking chunks of your neighbors land so that you had room for your expanding population - and got more land.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:35 PM
KS Toronado (13,044 posts)
11. Middle ground........
“The middle ground is not halfway between Nazis and antiracists. The reasonable position is not a compromise between rapists and feminists, slaveowners and abolitionists, Natives and General Crook. The truth is not midway between the liar and the truthteller. That has to be a factor in all those calls for reaching out and unity. The murderer and his intended victim don't have to agree on what's right. The people who were harmed don't have to reach out to those who did the harming. The people who told the truth don't need to make liars feel better about themselves or what they said. Those who were targeted by this war don't have to do all the peacemaking. Being gracious, issuing invitations -- sure for those who are up to it and see ways to do it constructively -- but not compromising or normalizing hate and discrimination and destruction. If reaching out and finding unity is good, the haters and liars can go find some olive branches and apologies and do the work to leave their will to destroy the rest of us behind.
Then it begins. The party of hate never had a mandate; they lost the popular vote last time and this time; they may think of themselves as the real Americans and the gatekeepers but we don't have to, and we don't have to enter their gates or play by their rules. We don't have to hate them either, but we don't have to protect them from the consequences of their choices or sell out our principles for their comfort. When you stand on the ground of truth and justice, let others find their way to you. If you stand firm, many will in the end. Not everyone will; that does not change what truth and justice are.” ~~ Rebecca Solnit - Writer, Historian, & Activist |
Response to KS Toronado (Reply #11)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:43 PM
PoliWrangler (136 posts)
13. wish I could rec this
Response to PoliWrangler (Reply #13)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:13 PM
KS Toronado (13,044 posts)
15. Copy & Paste? author said to share far & wide
Response to KS Toronado (Reply #15)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:54 PM
Marthe48 (13,036 posts)
22. I copy and pasted
Thank you for the insightful post.
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:42 PM
keithbvadu2 (31,817 posts)
12. Party Of Lincoln
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:51 PM
Dorn (479 posts)
14. Human beings are easily lead by demagogues -- we are in deep trouble
The republican party has lost its anchor -- I believe it comes from having too many un-drafted 'veterans'
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Response to Dorn (Reply #14)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 02:16 PM
KS Toronado (13,044 posts)
16. And to many with bone spurs who refused to serve.
Response to EarlG (Original post)
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Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
BobTheSubgenius (11,370 posts)
23. I don't think this analogy is fair.
Neville Chamberlain's short-sighted, reckless appeasement brought devastation to Europe and millions of deaths.
The GOP brought the world...this mess. OK, maybe Chamberlain's failures rise to the level of the perfidy of the last 4 years, after all. I thought this was being unfair to him. |
Response to EarlG (Original post)
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:36 PM
Beartracks (12,198 posts)
25. The so-called party of Lincoln marched into the Capitol last week waving the Confederate flag.
They are not the party of Lincoln anymore. They really haven't been for a long time.
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