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Pic Of The Moment: Republicans Then: Party Of Lincoln. Republicans Now... (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2021 OP
LOOK! We lost control of our people years ago underpants Jan 2021 #1
Party of John Wilkes Booth now central scrutinizer Jan 2021 #2
And Charles Manson, and Ted Bundy, and Son Of Sam, and Hannibal Lecter... Initech Jan 2021 #6
Atilla the Hun? Aussie105 Jan 2021 #21
I'd even throw Genghis Khan and Jeffrey Dahmer in the mix! Initech Jan 2021 #24
+1 2naSalit Jan 2021 #7
Spot On! gademocrat7 Jan 2021 #3
"I lost the one that insured peace in our time... Harker Jan 2021 #4
Also Republicans then: Fuck your feelings! There are no safe spaces in the real world! Initech Jan 2021 #5
Well, maybe they all should follow Colin Powell and abandon the dregs of the party. nt TigressDem Jan 2021 #8
Except it took THIS to move Powell away from the GOP dixiegrrrrl Jan 2021 #18
Some Republicans, old ones, have some principals. TigressDem Jan 2021 #26
Less often mentioned, was the fact that most UK aristocracy supported Hitler sandensea Jan 2021 #9
I heard that members of the aristocracy thought they Ilsa Jan 2021 #27
My American history teacher said hitler wanted Marthe48 Jan 2021 #10
That was called "Lebensraum" NotANeocon Jan 2021 #19
Middle ground........ KS Toronado Jan 2021 #11
wish I could rec this PoliWrangler Jan 2021 #13
Copy & Paste? author said to share far & wide KS Toronado Jan 2021 #15
I copy and pasted Marthe48 Jan 2021 #22
Party Of Lincoln keithbvadu2 Jan 2021 #12
Human beings are easily lead by demagogues -- we are in deep trouble Dorn Jan 2021 #14
And to many with bone spurs who refused to serve. KS Toronado Jan 2021 #16
K&R Gothmog Jan 2021 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Hiawatha Pete Jan 2021 #20
I don't think this analogy is fair. BobTheSubgenius Jan 2021 #23
The so-called party of Lincoln marched into the Capitol last week waving the Confederate flag. Beartracks Jan 2021 #25

underpants

(182,787 posts)
1. LOOK! We lost control of our people years ago
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:12 AM
Jan 2021

Sorry, probably shoulda given everyone a “heads up” on that.

Initech

(100,065 posts)
6. And Charles Manson, and Ted Bundy, and Son Of Sam, and Hannibal Lecter...
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:20 AM
Jan 2021

And Tony Montana, and Atilla The Hun.

Initech

(100,065 posts)
24. I'd even throw Genghis Khan and Jeffrey Dahmer in the mix!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jan 2021

Maybe the Heaven's Gate guy too just for measure!

Initech

(100,065 posts)
5. Also Republicans then: Fuck your feelings! There are no safe spaces in the real world!
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 11:18 AM
Jan 2021

Now: It's my party and I'll cry if I want to!

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
18. Except it took THIS to move Powell away from the GOP
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 04:44 PM
Jan 2021


Doesn't count, in my book.
Any Republicans still standing after the attempts/vows to steal the election get no pass, either.

any republicans who change their status to anything but Dem. get no pass.
What's that line????? oh, yeah."but I'm Swiss", said every German arrested at the end of WW2.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
26. Some Republicans, old ones, have some principals.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 10:39 PM
Jan 2021

I am not saying he is perfect, but as a respected leader among his own this is a strong message that others can use to give themselves the freedom to leave and start anew.

It is messed up. You are right. It shouldn't take this much but no one is able to see their own blind spots without severe assistance at times.

He's also voted for DEMs in 2016 and 2020. So it's not like he hasn't already supported us even while retaining his party status.

WHEN you have a high ranking Republican willing to use their brain cells and do the proper thing, even if it seems like it took forever to get there, you have an ally.

WE don't want to have to clean up this mess all by ourselves. Powell isn't the only military person to say "No" to insurrection.

I don't hate Republicans. I hate violent white supremacist behavior. I hate people being treated unequally under the law. I hate phoniness. WHEN there are people on the other side of the isle with SOME integrity left, THOSE people I can work with.

Just saying.


sandensea

(21,624 posts)
9. Less often mentioned, was the fact that most UK aristocracy supported Hitler
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:02 PM
Jan 2021

True, they didn't didn't just how monstrous he and his regime were - but, like many U.S. CEOs, they were downright giddy over his union-busting and police state tactics.

Chamberlain was bowing to pressure from them, as much as from Hitler.

And so it is with Big Business today and Trump: with him, they finally got the puppet president they wanted - only the puppet turned out to be Chucky.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
27. I heard that members of the aristocracy thought they
Tue Jan 12, 2021, 12:06 AM
Jan 2021

could essentially make a deal with Hitler: they would effect a surrender if Hitler left their class, most of their assets, alone. Yeah, right. Like he did the nobility of Germany.

Marthe48

(16,945 posts)
10. My American history teacher said hitler wanted
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 12:52 PM
Jan 2021

piece: a piece of Austria, a piece of Czech, a piece of Poland. Never forgot that

NotANeocon

(423 posts)
19. That was called "Lebensraum"
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 07:10 PM
Jan 2021

It meant taking chunks of your neighbors land so that you had room for your expanding population - and got more land.


Hmmmm - I wonder why The Vatican didn't do that?

KS Toronado

(17,212 posts)
11. Middle ground........
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:35 PM
Jan 2021

“The middle ground is not halfway between Nazis and antiracists. The reasonable position is not a compromise between rapists and feminists, slaveowners and abolitionists, Natives and General Crook. The truth is not midway between the liar and the truthteller. That has to be a factor in all those calls for reaching out and unity. The murderer and his intended victim don't have to agree on what's right. The people who were harmed don't have to reach out to those who did the harming. The people who told the truth don't need to make liars feel better about themselves or what they said. Those who were targeted by this war don't have to do all the peacemaking. Being gracious, issuing invitations -- sure for those who are up to it and see ways to do it constructively -- but not compromising or normalizing hate and discrimination and destruction. If reaching out and finding unity is good, the haters and liars can go find some olive branches and apologies and do the work to leave their will to destroy the rest of us behind.

Then it begins. The party of hate never had a mandate; they lost the popular vote last time and this time; they may think of themselves as the real Americans and the gatekeepers but we don't have to, and we don't have to enter their gates or play by their rules. We don't have to hate them either, but we don't have to protect them from the consequences of their choices or sell out our principles for their comfort. When you stand on the ground of truth and justice, let others find their way to you. If you stand firm, many will in the end. Not everyone will; that does not change what truth and justice are.”


~~ Rebecca Solnit - Writer, Historian, & Activist

Dorn

(523 posts)
14. Human beings are easily lead by demagogues -- we are in deep trouble
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 01:51 PM
Jan 2021

The republican party has lost its anchor -- I believe it comes from having too many un-drafted 'veterans'

Response to EarlG (Original post)

BobTheSubgenius

(11,563 posts)
23. I don't think this analogy is fair.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 08:49 PM
Jan 2021

Neville Chamberlain's short-sighted, reckless appeasement brought devastation to Europe and millions of deaths.

The GOP brought the world...this mess.

OK, maybe Chamberlain's failures rise to the level of the perfidy of the last 4 years, after all. I thought this was being unfair to him.

Beartracks

(12,809 posts)
25. The so-called party of Lincoln marched into the Capitol last week waving the Confederate flag.
Mon Jan 11, 2021, 09:36 PM
Jan 2021

They are not the party of Lincoln anymore. They really haven't been for a long time.

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