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Tue Nov 24, 2020, 04:20 AM

Trump Dismantles Decades-Old Surveillance Treaty Irreparably On His Way Out The Door - Rachel Maddow



Rachel Maddow describes how Donald Trump in his lame duck period has not only abruptly removed the U.S from the decades old Open Skies Treaty that supplies the U.S. and its allies with surveillance data on Russian military activities, but has taken steps to dispose of the program's specialized planes and removed the option of replacing them. Aired on 11/24/2020.




Exiting Trump Puts Dubious Characters In Top Roles At Pentagon, NSA - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow reports on some of the questionable staffing moves Donald Trump has made at the Pentagon and the NSA since losing the election. Aired on 11/24/2020.


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Reply Trump Dismantles Decades-Old Surveillance Treaty Irreparably On His Way Out The Door - Rachel Maddow (Original post)
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 OP
SWBTATTReg Nov 24 #1
Bluepinky Nov 24 #2
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 #3
ancianita Nov 24 #5
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 #10
Botany Nov 24 #11
ancianita Nov 24 #16
Botany Nov 24 #4
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 #7
Botany Nov 24 #13
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 #14
Botany Nov 24 #15
IthinkThereforeIAM Nov 24 #18
Botany Nov 24 #19
liberalla Nov 24 #6
Rhiannon12866 Nov 24 #12
LeftofObama Nov 24 #8
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 24 #9
KS Toronado Nov 24 #17
Billytee Nov 24 #20

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:48 AM

1. And why did trump do this? Aiding and abetting our enemy in plain sight, treason!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:51 AM

2. This was an important segment, haven't seen this posted earlier.

Trump is continuing to commit treasonous acts on his way out the door. Isn’t there a way to stop this? Perhaps by doing what Trump does, filing a lawsuit to stop it from happening?

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Response to Bluepinky (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 05:59 AM

3. I thought so, too! Posted this while I was watching the repeat, feeling shocked and angry

He's absolutely attempting to burn the place down, destroying the planes makes sure that the Biden administration can't just rejoin - and this also puts our allies in jeopardy! Rachel didn't say it was illegal, may just be another of those outrages that no one imagined that any POTUS would actually do!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:11 AM

5. Treaties are the law of the land. That he unilaterally tore the treaty up is indictable.

This is not just spite. This is why we expect the next Congress and DOJ to act on Americans' behalf -- his intentional attempts to do harm to the nation.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:24 AM

10. He blatantly does harm to the nation every single day!

Sometimes by his inaction, but more obviously in more ways than I can name, reversing safety regulations, undermining our allies in favor of our adversaries, appointing unqualified people or those with a personal agenda, not to mention ignoring and then dismissing a global pandemic that is sickening and killing hundreds of thousands of American citizens! You're right, all of this is obvious and intentional!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #10)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:28 AM

16. Absolutely. But this harm is documented proof and indisputable. Usable for a grand jury.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:00 AM

4. Trump was installed by and works for Russia.

Even going out the door.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:16 AM

7. Yup, that was my first thought, too

The operation that Trump ended keeps Russia in check!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:50 AM

13. Putin has been working Trump since the 1990s

Trump owes Putin/Russia/Russian Mob/Deutsche Bank 300 to 400 million.

Trump owes China and Saudi Arabia @ least 600 to 700 million. These type
of debts were in the Steele Dossier (pee pee tapes) and so far nothing in that
dossier has been proven wrong. Trump is a Russian asset.

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Response to Botany (Reply #13)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:56 AM

14. I have no doubt about that

I just wish that he didn't have 2 months left to complete his agenda. And we had the chance to remove him back in January - I feel that those who refused to take the evidence presented during the impeachment hearings seriously are complicit. And I think how much harm could have been avoided if he'd been removed back then.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #14)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:03 AM

15. Many of those senators took Russian money in 2016 via the NRA and even visited Moscow on July 4 2018

McConnell, Pence, Sessions, McCarthy, Nunes, and others all knew of Putin's rat fucking of our elections
in 2016 but didn't say shit.

I have no doubt that Putin was busy in 2020 but the vote was so overwhelming that it overcame his
actions.

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Response to Botany (Reply #15)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 12:21 PM

18. Don't forget Sen Thune (R-SD)...


... the, "#3 Republican in the Senate", who just stands there like a mannequin right behind MoscowMitch in just about every group photo.

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Response to IthinkThereforeIAM (Reply #18)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 12:36 PM

19. The Moscow 8

IN 2018, EIGHT REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS celebrated the Fourth of July in Moscow, Russia: Senator Richard C. Shelby of Alabama, who led the delegation, along with Senators Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, John Neely Kennedy of Louisiana, Steve Daines of Montana, North Dakota’s John Hoeven, Jerry Moran of Kansas, South Dakota’s John Thune, and Rep. Kay Granger of the 12th District of Texas. The ostensible reason for the trip was “engagement”

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:13 AM

6. I haven't seen this yet - thanks for posting.

Bookmarking!

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Response to liberalla (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:50 AM

12. I watched the repeat last night and found it extremely disturbing

Just the latest of Trump's harmful actions, but this time it's a last minute attempt to shut down our allies' ability to protect themselves from Russia.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:20 AM

8. I saw this segment on Rachel last night.

I said then and I say now, "This has Putin written all over it!" If anyone thinks those calls from trump to Putin were just friendly chats they're crazy. trump was getting his orders straight from the boss!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 07:24 AM

9. Maybe Biden's defense department can grab the airplanes out of the "boneyard" before this happens:



I used to be a navigator on the C-141, so it's painful to watch one being destroyed.

There's got to be some delay between the time the aircraft leaves Mildenhall, UK, where the aircraft are based and when they arrive a Davis-Monthan, AZ, and then from the time it arrives at D-M and when destruction begins. All that top secret electronics has to be removed and accounted for first. It depends on when the order was given. If it was given the day Fat Donnie yanked us out of the Clear Skies Treaty as a parting gift to Putin, the amount of paperwork necessary to get the aircraft to the boneyard might be enough to slow down the process long enough to for the new defense secretary to countermand Trump's orders. It would take a one sentence letter. I imagine there are lower level people in the Pentagon who could delay the paperwork until Biden is commander in chief.

I wonder what it would take to get Trump's private jet to the boneyard for disassembling.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 10:39 AM

17. Wonder if our NATO allies could get on our MSM and request to buy the planes?

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Tue Nov 24, 2020, 08:44 PM

20. Trump needs to be accountable

treason

"the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign, overthrow the government or for aiding and/or abetting the enemy"

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