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Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:25 PM

BBC News - QAnon, coronavirus and the conspiracy cult

It is interesting to see Europe's perspective on QAnon, a bizarre conspiracy theory has surged in popularity in the US since the pandemic, according to exclusive research seen by the BBC.

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Reply BBC News - QAnon, coronavirus and the conspiracy cult (Original post)
TomCADem Aug 2020 OP
kimbutgar Aug 2020 #1
TomCADem Aug 2020 #2
kimbutgar Aug 2020 #6
TomCADem Aug 2020 #9
RainCaster Aug 2020 #3
The Wielding Truth Aug 2020 #4
raging moderate Aug 2020 #5
SergeStorms Aug 2020 #13
TomCADem Aug 2020 #14
Illumination Aug 2020 #7
The Daily Irishman Aug 2020 #8
Cetacea Aug 2020 #10
SergeStorms Aug 2020 #11
Riverman100 Aug 2020 #12
Merlot Aug 2020 #15
TomCADem Aug 2020 #17
byronius Aug 2020 #16
citizen blues Aug 2020 #18
TomCADem Aug 2020 #19

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:27 PM

1. My husbands 22 year old nephew is swimming in that QAnon sewer.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:37 PM

2. NBC News - Russian troll accounts purged by Twitter pushed Qanon and other conspiracy theories

In the end, QAnon is just another vehicle for foreign and domestic trolls to push disinformation.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/russian-troll-accounts-purged-twitter-pushed-qanon-other-conspiracy-theories-n966091

A new batch of troll accounts identified by Twitter as having ties to Russia’s propaganda operation revealed an emphasis on promoting far-right conspiracy theories such as Qanon to Americans.

Twitter announced Thursday the removal of 418 accounts tied to the Kremlin-backed Internet Research Agency, the disinformation group whose employees were indicted by special counsel Robert Mueller last February for attempted election interference.

The accounts’ tweets featured the hashtag #MAGA, usually in support of President Donald Trump, almost 38,000 times — the most of any hashtag. #ReleaseTheMemo, a social media campaign pushed by allies of the president last year that aimed to discredit some members of the FBI, was tweeted 37,583 times. In all, the 400-some accounts tweeted more than 900,000 tweets.

At the time, close allies of Trump brushed off suggestions that #ReleaseTheMemo, which trended on Twitter, was boosted by Russian influence. "Russian trolls have nothing to do with releasing the memo. That was a vote of the intelligence committee,” counselor to the president Kellyanne Conway said last February.[div]

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:58 PM

6. Thank you

I am tempted to post this for him on Facebook but because it’s NBS news he will say it fake.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:27 PM

9. Vox: How Russian trolls weaponized your social media feed

QAnon is just the flavor of the moment when it comes to spreading disinformation.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:40 PM

3. Whackos one and all

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:43 PM

4. Tell any Q ANON's to test their beliefs by waiting a bit and see what the truth turns out to be.

Remember the results and question the Q version.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 12:50 PM

5. "Where we go one, we go all." That is not standard English grammar.

Where did this phrase originate? Does this sentence structure resemble the sentence structure of any particular language, past or present? Is there a known particular source of this phrase?

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Response to raging moderate (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:54 PM

13. I believe it's derived...

from "Middle Earth", popularized by J.R.R. Tolkien. In other words, it's mostly bullshit.

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Response to raging moderate (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 04:31 PM

14. TIME: Russian Propaganda In The Internet Age: How To Spot A Russian Troll Online

It is the same pro-Trump, racist, divisive propaganda, yet right wingers keep on falling for it.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 01:36 PM

7. BUT it's not just QAnon. There's many other groups out there that are dividing families with

brain washing. They feel justified & validated with their "group". I can relate.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:20 PM

8. "Anti-Semitic Tropes"

 

That woman nailed it. Satan-worshiping Pedophiles who Control Hollywood, the Media, and the Government. I'm surprised they didn't throw in the banks!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:37 PM

10. Trump sees the potential youth vote and has started pushing them

Russia is amplifying them.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:51 PM

11. The one flaw that blows QAnon completely out of the water.

Donald Trump is releasing "QDrops", elaborate clues to his disciples to figure out the great mystery of QAnon.

Question to his disciples: When has Donald Trump ever been able to keep his mouth shut about anything? He consistently blabbers on about things he knows nothing about, but when it comes to QAnon he's playing it very close to the vest, and only releasing "QDrops"?

But then critical thinking isn't these complete morons strong suit, is it? I'm sure they'd concoct some reason that makes sense to only them, but to people who are able to utilize logic and reason it would just be more ridiculous BULLSHIT!

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 03:54 PM

12. Wouldn't it be funny if it came out

That the Q in Q-anon was the last initial in LBGTQ

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 05:18 PM

15. Was it necessary to have the flashy graphics or interview with the guy?

I feel like BBC did a disservice on this, the way it was presented it gave more free publicity to qanon.

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Response to Merlot (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 07:22 PM

17. PBS News Hour - What is QAnon? How the conspiracy theory gained traction in 2020 campaign

Of course, the BBC is directed at a European audience, so they are definitely emphasizing the weirder aspects of this whole cult. If you want a more serious story, here is PBS Newshour covering the recent wins by several Republican QAnon believers.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 05:43 PM

16. The purposeful destruction of public education over the last 50 years plays a big part in this.

This kind of thinking has always been around. There are parts of the human brain and elements of our biochemistry that readily respond to these impulses -- just look at the gleam in that guy's eyes; he's getting endorphin rushes just talking about it.

You can easily trace it back through history. The Greeks considered the Oracle at Delphi as hard evidence of God's Intent. Medieval Europeans knew the Jews were responsible for bubonic plague. The gleam in that guy's eyes is EXACTLY the same gleam in the eyes of the the Brownshirts and the Teutonically-guided Waffen SS. Once mystical thinking sets in it festers and grow until it meets the harder truths of Darwinian physics, at which point a lot of people suffer and die. Over and over and over again in human history, this same crap. Everywhere, in every culture.

Then along came science and reason. First as a sliver of the population in hiding, then as a civil movement, finally as power. The United States grew into a science-based civil society because unlike any mystical belief, science works, and it works repeatedly. But it's not an easy path -- it takes hard labor, and rigorous devotion to developing skills like critical thinking and systems like honest peer review. Wherever it blossoms it grants enormous power to the society that embraces it -- there is nothing more impressive and impactful on planet earth than groups of individuals sharing information subjected to the acid-bath of reason-based analysis.

However, this difficult path also leads to new social truths that are uncomfortable and degrading for generational monarchies that have wielded great power in the past through control of large populations built on carefully-designed mystic systems. Conservative economic monarchies in the US seeking to shore up their fading power have struggled and succeeded to some extent in defeating one of the most powerful forces for human advancement ever devised -- the public education system.

If a child is not taught how to parse information, how to rigorously test, verify, and judge fact -- they become amenable to the return of mysticism, which makes them easy targets for the same well-worn methods of control practiced by so many going back to the earliest primates. They fall into tribalism, religious fervor, the embracement of violence, caste systems, resignation of individual value to charismatic leadership --

"There's some much out there that I don't even know what I think," the young idiot with the gleaming eyes says in the video. He doesn't know what he thinks because he does not think. He's not really studying or analzying or attempting to verify anything. He's got a cable runnning into the back of his brain that feeds him a steady stream of endorphins, and that's all that's left of him.

That's the real conspiracy. Period.

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Response to TomCADem (Original post)

Sat Aug 22, 2020, 10:04 PM

18. Thank you for posting this!

I had posted earlier this summer about losing my cousin and his wife to right wing extremism. But just saying that they got sucked into FOX news and right wing media didn't really cover the cold chill that my interactions with the wife, who had been a friend for almost a decade, had left me with. I just had a sense of something far darker and far more sinister. This actually explains it.

This correctly identified terrorist organization is radicalizing Americans much the same way the ISIS radicalized its followers.

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Response to citizen blues (Reply #18)

Sun Aug 23, 2020, 03:30 PM

19. Sitting Down with QAnon Conspiracy Theorists - The Jim Jefferies Show



The Republican party has long benefited from stoking such conspiracies, but now the conspiracy mongering has become party of the Republican mainstream. Before Russia would help create and publish content, but now Russia can amplify the bullshit that Trump and Republicans themselves now actively endorse.

Here is a 2 year old episode of Jim Jeffries where he sat down withe some QAnon supporters. The episode was funny because they seemed so fringe back then, but now it is the Republican mainstream. By creating an entire right wing media ecosystem that is divorced from reality in order to shield Trump supporters from negative coverage of Trump, Fox and other right wing outlets have created an ideal environment for conspiracies to proliferate.

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