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Fri Jun 5, 2020, 11:51 AM

Pic Of The Moment: Tone-Deaf Sociopath Makes Announcement



Trump says he hopes George Floyd 'looking down' and seeing today’s jobs numbers as 'a great day for him'


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Reply Pic Of The Moment: Tone-Deaf Sociopath Makes Announcement (Original post)
EarlG Jun 5 OP
mnhtnbb Jun 5 #1
flibbitygiblets Jun 5 #4
Initech Jun 5 #2
wryter2000 Jun 5 #3
FailureToCommunicate Jun 5 #5
underpants Jun 5 #6
MrModerate Jun 5 #7
stillcool Jun 5 #8
Delmette2.0 Jun 5 #9
Harker Jun 5 #20
Delmette2.0 Jun 5 #23
Harker Jun 5 #33
bucolic_frolic Jun 5 #10
EarlG Jun 5 #11
Grokenstein Jun 5 #18
Dukkha Jun 5 #12
love_katz Jun 6 #41
TheCowsCameHome Jun 5 #13
niyad Jun 5 #21
BootinUp Jun 5 #14
KatyaR Jun 5 #15
renate Jun 5 #16
Grokenstein Jun 5 #17
gab13by13 Jun 5 #19
DesertRat Jun 5 #22
DallasNE Jun 5 #36
SpankMe Jun 5 #24
apkhgp Jun 5 #25
Martin Eden Jun 5 #26
blakstoneranger Jun 5 #27
bucolic_frolic Jun 5 #35
progree Jun 5 #28
DallasNE Jun 5 #34
progree Jun 6 #39
DallasNE Jun 5 #29
progree Jun 6 #40
DallasNE Jun 6 #44
progree Jun 6 #45
MuchBetterThanThis Jun 5 #30
47of74 Jun 5 #31
louis-t Jun 5 #32
Aussie105 Jun 5 #38
bucolic_frolic Jun 6 #42
Aussie105 Jun 5 #37
oldsoftie Jun 6 #43
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 6 #46
yuiyoshida Jun 6 #47

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 11:55 AM

1. If it's so great to be dead at the hands

of homicidal cops, maybe you should try it out yourself, Donny boy?

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:04 PM

4. I second this idea.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 11:57 AM

2. Holy crap! Talk about missing the point!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:02 PM

3. The people standing around him

I recognize Mnuchin. Their heads should have exploded

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:04 PM

5. We say it so often now, "Un-F-ingbelievable", that it's losing it's panache.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:05 PM

6. Or Frederick Douglass

Either one. Whatever’s

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:08 PM

7. Brainless fuckpig. Makes you want to puke. n/t

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:10 PM

8. wtf was that supposed to be?

his impression of Joe Biden? Trying to act like he has a clue.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:25 PM

9. Oh, FFS!

Is there a different psychological term for this way of thinking? The Dipshit keeps coming up with new ways to minimize the lynching of a black man, a father, a kind human being.

I never have hated anyone, but he checks all the boxes for me.



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Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:23 PM

20. I had stopped hating people...

but I'm quite sure that I'm experiencing a relapse.

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Response to Harker (Reply #20)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:53 PM

23. I have always been indifferent to people that I don't like.

I can stay friendly in social situations, I can ignore some people without saying anything negative, I can even find something good to say about other people I don't like.

Truly, this is the first time in my 67 years I have ever hated anyone. I know it could be compared to wishing them dead ,but I think the Secret Service would overlook the mutterings of an old woman.

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Response to Delmette2.0 (Reply #23)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:41 PM

33. I get along well with most people nowadays.

In my youth, I was much more volatile.

Time and the development of greater compassion have worked to smooth my formerly sharp edges. I guess I'm akin to a piece of beach glass.

I admire your having only recently felt hatred. I hope it departs forever when the irritant goes away.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:28 PM

10. 25 for 45




Charles P. Pierce
@CharlesPPierce
This is the most singularly batshit crazy thing any president ever has said out loud in public, at least in my memory.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:30 PM

11. Agreed, and this is a guy who

said maybe we should try injecting disinfectant.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #10)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:53 PM

18. ...so FAR.

Tomorrow, tomorrow, there's always tomorrow
We'll see what he comes up with then

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:33 PM

12. This pile of shit cannot die fast enough

So someone can say "Hopefully Trump is looking up from Hell and sees how much better the world is without him"

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Response to Dukkha (Reply #12)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:53 AM

41. THIS

Exactly! My reply is in response to post # 12.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:42 PM

13. The guy is totally nuts.

Just when you thought things couldn't get worse...

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:40 PM

21. But, most of us KNOW that there appears to be no level of stupid, no depth of obtuseness,

No area of hatred and cruelty and callousness that he will not explore. We experience disgust, anger, sadness, loathing, grieving, but not surprise.

May we never see his like again.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 12:57 PM

14. What a Moran. Nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:11 PM

15. There are no words....

I can't believe that someone can be THAT tone deaf to say something like that....

Won't win him any votes, I bet....

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:17 PM

16. what the HELL is it going to take for his followers to understand that HE IS NOT WELL

The president of the United States of America HAS LOST IT. He's not just a sociopathic, narcissistic, delusional asswipe. He is non compos mentis.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 01:52 PM

17. He thinks this is brilliant

...because he's mentioning other people instead of himself.

But it's still all about him. He's incapable of anything else.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:21 PM

19. When Obama was president,

Trump used to say, add 6% to the unemployment number to make it right.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 02:49 PM

22. Deplorable

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #22)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:40 PM

36. The Eomomic News Was A Photo Op

And the books were cooked to give him the photo op he wanted. Basically, millions and millions were counted in an employed category that should have been counted in the unemployed category since they were not working.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:00 PM

24. Stunning

And there's STILL a real chance that this empty shell will win in Nov.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 05:53 PM

25. Suffering from a medical condition known as

Head stuck up the ass syndrome. Common in Right Wingers.

Please, please vote this jerk out of OUR White House.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 06:19 PM

26. Speechless

I wish he was, but I am.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 07:38 PM

27. HE SAID IT, HE KNEW HE SAID IT, AND HE MEANT IT

 

He disrespects everybody even war veterans, what the hell did anybody expect.
He's taunting the media with red meat, the shock and awe of it.
He knows it's going to piss people off!!
Either way he gets his 24/7 media coverage of trump, trump, trump. And the conservative right are reeling with joy, because once again he "own the media and the democrats".

Hands down, the most childish man I have ever seen.

FORGET HIS STUPID COMMENTS AND BEHAVIOR, THIS MORON IS NECK AND NECK WITH BIDEN IN MOST BATTLEGROUND STATES. AFTER ALL WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS IDIOT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER! WHY?

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Response to blakstoneranger (Reply #27)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:00 PM

35. Because stupid loves stupid

it makes them feel as smart as the next guy.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:09 PM

28. Black unemployment rate ticked up to 16.8% today. White UR? Down 1.8 pp to 12.4%

The black unemployment rate is 16.8%, an uptick from April's 16.7%. And 1/3 above the 12.4% white unemployment rate, which ticked down by 1.8 percentage points.

# Black unemployment rate https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006
First 5 months of 2020: 6.0, 5.8, 6.7, 16.7, 16.8 Trump: "what have you got to lose?"

# White unemployment rate https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000003
First 5 months of 2020: 3.1, 3.1, 4.0, 14.2, 12.4

Asked how the rate of unemployment among black Americans can be considered a "victory" as it continues to increase, the president told a reporter outside the White House, "You are really something."

And the stock market rally doesn't help black families all that much

Few black families will benefit from the historic stock market rally, 6/5/20
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/few-black-families-benefit-from-stock-market-rally-213342729.html

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Response to progree (Reply #28)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:49 PM

34. Actually, Todays Job Report Is Severely Corrupted

My post below explains. All of the numbers are based on the corrupted data so they too are corrupted. We won't know until next month what the job market looks like. BTW, what did ADP show this month?

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #34)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:00 AM

39. March and April also had the same problem. March was "almost 1 percentage point"

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2020, 04:43 AM - Edit history (1)

April was "almost 5 percentage points", and May was "about 3 percentage points" off (i.e. the unemployment rates in the respective months would be higher by these amounts were it not for these mis-classification errors). There is no reason to assume that there won't be this error next month, given that they've noted this error for the past 3 months in a row.

I don't know if it was a "buried footnote", given that it's in a big box in the summary. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
And in the full report: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf

That said, I am disappointed that at least a brief mention wasn't made at the beginning of the summary. Instead of waiting until the end of the summary to tell us there's trouble in paradise. And yes, they waited until the last paragraph of the long long footnote before telling us what we need to know

As for the ADP, they found 2.76 M private sector job loss, whereas the BLS found a 2.425 M private sector job gain. Realize ADP only processes about 20% of the nation's payrolls, as for how they estimate the other 80%, I have no idea.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 08:36 PM

29. But The Unemployment Rate Is NOT 13% According To A Buried Footnote

Rather than adding 2.5 million jobs we lost 16.5 million jobs. It is explained here.


The report for May is totally worthless because millions were counted as employed that should have been counted as unemployed. It's all explained here.

Hold your horses. The jobs numbers released this morning are corrupted by a massive reporting error that will likely be corrected next month. Also, the jobs numbers for March and April were adjusted downwards by a combined 642,000. The estimate is that the current unemployment rate should be a whopping 3% higher than what is being reported or 16.3% and up from the 14.7% reported in April. All of the good headline numbers are smoke and mirrors. Following is the footnote in the actual BLS report explaining. "If the workers who were recorded as employed but absent from work due to "other reasons" (over and above the number absent for other reasons in a typical May) had been classified as unemployed on temporary layoff, the overall unemployment rate would have been about 3 percentage points higher than reported (on a not seasonally adjusted basis)." In other words, they counted about 19 million people as "employed but absent" that should have been counted as "unemployed on temporary layoff" Instead of adding 2.5 million jobs they should have been reported as a 16.5 million increase in the unemployment category. The House must look into how an error this massive could have happened. Heads need to roll over this.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #29)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 03:36 AM

40. Realize the 2.5 million job gain comes from a different survey -- the Establishment Survey -- than

the unemployment and unemployment rate numbers (the Household Survey). The classification error reported in the footnote in the big box was for the Household Survey.

Note also that April's 14.7% was low by "almost 5 percentage points", meaning that the correct value is almost 19.7%. So using corrected values, the unemployment rate dropped from almost 19.7% in April to about 16.3% in May.

In May, the total Unemployed were reported as 21.0 M and a UR of 13.3%. Had the corrected figures been used, the unemployed would be 21.0 M * 16.3%/13.3% = 25.7 M, or 4.7 M more than the 21.0 M reported.

I don't know where you got 2.5 M + 16.5 M = 19.0 M more out of this. (But anyway, like I said above, the misclassification error was in the Household Survey, not the Establishment Survey that produced the 2.5 M number).

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Response to progree (Reply #40)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:29 PM

44. Thans For The Info

My 19 million number was the difference between the roughly 40 million initial jobless claims filed over the last 3 months and the 21 million reported here as unemployed. I knew that wouldn't be anywhere near exact but it was a stab at quantifying the scope of the problem. Also, why was the adjustment for March and April only 642,000 if they had the same problem as May where you calculate it as 4.7 million? And it puts a world of hurt on the confidence in the employment data that it has suddenly gotten so screwed up. Heads need to roll over this given the magnitude and the importance of these reports along with the big lie photo op it gave the orange one.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #44)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:54 PM

45. You're welcome 😂

Last edited Sat Jun 6, 2020, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)

On the 42.65 million jobs claims over the last 3 months -- continuing claims were only 21.49 million. I guess the difference between the sum of about 3 months of initial claims filings, on the one hand, and continuing claims (those going on for 2 weeks or more) on the other hand, means that a lot of the claimints found jobs or dropped out of the UI claims/benefits system within one or two or three months. That surprises me, but it wouldn't be the first time.

As you probably know, the BLS jobs report and particularly the number of unemployed and the unemployment rate are not based on a count of unemployment claims, unemployment benefits status, or any other statistics from the state unemployment offices. Rather, they come from from a completely separate survey of 60,000 households conducted by the Census Bureau where they ask a bunch of questions to determine employment / unemployment status.

>> Also, why was the adjustment for March and April only 642,000 if they had the same problem as May where you calculate it as 4.7 million? <<

The upward revision of 642,000 on the number of jobs lost in March and April combined is for the Establishment Survey.

The 3 percentage point unemployment rate error for May which led to my calculated 4.7 million additional unemployed number for May is from the separate -- completely different and separate -- Household Survey.

The March and April errors in the Household Survey have nothing to do with the March and April revisions in the Establishment Survey. Different surveys, different methods, different people doing them.

>> And it puts a world of hurt on the confidence in the employment data that it has suddenly gotten so screwed up. Heads need to roll over this given the magnitude and the importance of these reports along with the big lie photo op it gave the orange one. <<

It doesn't bother me too much that this error occurred once under these unusual circumstances. Even twice, though I would have hoped it would have become a much smaller error the second time around (it didn't -- it increased from "almost 1 percentage point" in March to "almost 5 percentage points" in April", albeit there were a lot more jobs lost in April than in March). And then it was "about 3 percentage points" in May.

Yes, this hurts their credibility a great deal. Admiral Rickover, the father of the nuclear navy, is said to have said, "To err is human. But only a horses ass makes the same mistake twice".

A bit harsh. But still it's galling that they still can't get this right or near-right 2 months later.

The Washington Post article says that despite efforts to correct the problem (good article on the problem, BTW), "lots of field staff who had a tried and true way of asking questions and they were doing what they were used to doing.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/06/05/may-2020-jobs-report-misclassification-error

Economists say the BLS was trying to be as transparent as possible about how hard it is to collect real-time data during a pandemic. The BLS admitted that some people who should have been classified as “temporarily unemployed” during the shutdown were instead misclassified as employed but “absent” from work for “other reasons.”

... One of the first questions that gets asked is did the person do any work “for pay or profit?” There are then 45 pages of follow up questions that come after that. One of those questions asks if someone was “temporarily absent” from the job and why that absence occurred. One of the responses is “other.”

The BLS instructed surveyors to try to figure out if someone was absent because of the pandemic and, if so, to classify them as on “temporary layoff,” meaning they would count in the unemployment data. But some people continued to insist they were just “absent” from work during the pandemic, and the BLS has a policy of not changing people’s answers once they are recorded. It’s how the BLS protects again bias or data manipulation.

... “It’s surprising the BLS couldn’t come up with fixes to make this work in May,” said Erica Groshen, the former BLS commissioner under Obama. But, she adds, “This is a very unusual situation. There are lots of field staff who had a tried and true way of asking questions and they were doing what they were used to doing.”

The only political appointee at the BLS is the commissioner, who, Groshen said, does not have access to the data and only sees the finalized report.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:19 PM

30. Worse than injecting Lysol and Bleach

Its like this guy keeps topping the most insane shit each week. Excuse me, each day!!

I left DU fer awhile because I like opposition to my REALity. Not to be part of a herd. But this is the only place I can release the utter rage that continues to build with each passing day. I don't know what I'll do if the United States re-elects this piece of shit

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Response to MuchBetterThanThis (Reply #30)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:25 PM

31. Yeah I'm already looking to duck out

 

Regardless of how the election goes.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 09:27 PM

32. What the fuck is wrong with him?

He's insane.

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Response to louis-t (Reply #32)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:49 PM

38. What is the medical term

for dead man walking?
The brain died years ago, yet he still walks and talks.

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Response to Aussie105 (Reply #38)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 11:03 AM

42. Zombie

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Jun 5, 2020, 10:47 PM

37. That sound bite from Trump makes no sense.

Trump's presidency makes no sense.

America, at the moment, makes no sense.

Get rid of the core source of this, vote him out! Decimate the GOP!

A lot of healing needed afterwards, a lot of heads need straightening out in the process.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 12:01 PM

43. Very misleading statement. He was not talking about jobs when he said that

I dont like the man anymore than anyone else here, and his way with words is like watching a dog dial a phone.
But I watched that press conference and he referred to Mr Floyd after speaking about equality & equal treatment under the law and all that.
NOT jobs. Jobs were a different part of the statement
Of course, the "great day for him" is ridiculous. A great day for him would be that he was still ALIVE.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 01:55 PM

46. Really

He's an oblivious horse's ass.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Jun 6, 2020, 02:14 PM

47. Oh gawd, please don't sing

That it’s a great day

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