Pic Of The Moment: Tone-Deaf Sociopath Makes Announcement
Trump says he hopes George Floyd 'looking down' and seeing todays jobs numbers as 'a great day for him'
of homicidal cops, maybe you should try it out yourself, Donny boy?
Is there a different psychological term for this way of thinking? The Dipshit keeps coming up with new ways to minimize the lynching of a black man, a father, a kind human being.
I never have hated anyone, but he checks all the boxes for me.
I can stay friendly in social situations, I can ignore some people without saying anything negative, I can even find something good to say about other people I don't like.
Truly, this is the first time in my 67 years I have ever hated anyone. I know it could be compared to wishing them dead ,but I think the Secret Service would overlook the mutterings of an old woman.
In my youth, I was much more volatile.
Time and the development of greater compassion have worked to smooth my formerly sharp edges. I guess I'm akin to a piece of beach glass.
I admire your having only recently felt hatred. I hope it departs forever when the irritant goes away.
Charles P. Pierce
This is the most singularly batshit crazy thing any president ever has said out loud in public, at least in my memory.
So someone can say "Hopefully Trump is looking up from Hell and sees how much better the world is without him"
No area of hatred and cruelty and callousness that he will not explore. We experience disgust, anger, sadness, loathing, grieving, but not surprise.
May we never see his like again.
I can't believe that someone can be THAT tone deaf to say something like that....
Won't win him any votes, I bet....
The president of the United States of America HAS LOST IT. He's not just a sociopathic, narcissistic, delusional asswipe. He is non compos mentis.
...because he's mentioning other people instead of himself.
But it's still all about him. He's incapable of anything else.
And the books were cooked to give him the photo op he wanted. Basically, millions and millions were counted in an employed category that should have been counted in the unemployed category since they were not working.
Head stuck up the ass syndrome. Common in Right Wingers.
Please, please vote this jerk out of OUR White House.
He disrespects everybody even war veterans, what the hell did anybody expect.
He's taunting the media with red meat, the shock and awe of it.
He knows it's going to piss people off!!
Either way he gets his 24/7 media coverage of trump, trump, trump. And the conservative right are reeling with joy, because once again he "own the media and the democrats".
Hands down, the most childish man I have ever seen.
FORGET HIS STUPID COMMENTS AND BEHAVIOR, THIS MORON IS NECK AND NECK WITH BIDEN IN MOST BATTLEGROUND STATES. AFTER ALL WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THIS IDIOT, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO VOTE FOR HIM IN NOVEMBER! WHY?
The black unemployment rate is 16.8%, an uptick from April's 16.7%. And 1/3 above the 12.4% white unemployment rate, which ticked down by 1.8 percentage points.
# Black unemployment rate https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000006
First 5 months of 2020: 6.0, 5.8, 6.7, 16.7, 16.8 Trump: "what have you got to lose?"
# White unemployment rate https://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000003
First 5 months of 2020: 3.1, 3.1, 4.0, 14.2, 12.4
Asked how the rate of unemployment among black Americans can be considered a "victory" as it continues to increase, the president told a reporter outside the White House, "You are really something."
And the stock market rally doesn't help black families all that much
Few black families will benefit from the historic stock market rally, 6/5/20
My post below explains. All of the numbers are based on the corrupted data so they too are corrupted. We won't know until next month what the job market looks like. BTW, what did ADP show this month?
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April was "almost 5 percentage points", and May was "about 3 percentage points" off (i.e. the unemployment rates in the respective months would be higher by these amounts were it not for these mis-classification errors). There is no reason to assume that there won't be this error next month, given that they've noted this error for the past 3 months in a row.
I don't know if it was a "buried footnote", given that it's in a big box in the summary. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
And in the full report: http://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
That said, I am disappointed that at least a brief mention wasn't made at the beginning of the summary. Instead of waiting until the end of the summary to tell us there's trouble in paradise. And yes, they waited until the last paragraph of the long long footnote before telling us what we need to know
As for the ADP, they found 2.76 M private sector job loss, whereas the BLS found a 2.425 M private sector job gain. Realize ADP only processes about 20% of the nation's payrolls, as for how they estimate the other 80%, I have no idea.
Rather than adding 2.5 million jobs we lost 16.5 million jobs. It is explained here.
The report for May is totally worthless because millions were counted as employed that should have been counted as unemployed. It's all explained here.
Hold your horses. The jobs numbers released this morning are corrupted by a massive reporting error that will likely be corrected next month. Also, the jobs numbers for March and April were adjusted downwards by a combined 642,000. The estimate is that the current unemployment rate should be a whopping 3% higher than what is being reported or 16.3% and up from the 14.7% reported in April. All of the good headline numbers are smoke and mirrors. Following is the footnote in the actual BLS report explaining. "If the workers who were recorded as employed but absent from work due to "other reasons" (over and above the number absent for other reasons in a typical May) had been classified as unemployed on temporary layoff, the overall unemployment rate would have been about 3 percentage points higher than reported (on a not seasonally adjusted basis)." In other words, they counted about 19 million people as "employed but absent" that should have been counted as "unemployed on temporary layoff" Instead of adding 2.5 million jobs they should have been reported as a 16.5 million increase in the unemployment category. The House must look into how an error this massive could have happened. Heads need to roll over this.
the unemployment and unemployment rate numbers (the Household Survey). The classification error reported in the footnote in the big box was for the Household Survey.
Note also that April's 14.7% was low by "almost 5 percentage points", meaning that the correct value is almost 19.7%. So using corrected values, the unemployment rate dropped from almost 19.7% in April to about 16.3% in May.
In May, the total Unemployed were reported as 21.0 M and a UR of 13.3%. Had the corrected figures been used, the unemployed would be 21.0 M * 16.3%/13.3% = 25.7 M, or 4.7 M more than the 21.0 M reported.
I don't know where you got 2.5 M + 16.5 M = 19.0 M more out of this. (But anyway, like I said above, the misclassification error was in the Household Survey, not the Establishment Survey that produced the 2.5 M number).
My 19 million number was the difference between the roughly 40 million initial jobless claims filed over the last 3 months and the 21 million reported here as unemployed. I knew that wouldn't be anywhere near exact but it was a stab at quantifying the scope of the problem. Also, why was the adjustment for March and April only 642,000 if they had the same problem as May where you calculate it as 4.7 million? And it puts a world of hurt on the confidence in the employment data that it has suddenly gotten so screwed up. Heads need to roll over this given the magnitude and the importance of these reports along with the big lie photo op it gave the orange one.
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On the 42.65 million jobs claims over the last 3 months -- continuing claims were only 21.49 million. I guess the difference between the sum of about 3 months of initial claims filings, on the one hand, and continuing claims (those going on for 2 weeks or more) on the other hand, means that a lot of the claimints found jobs or dropped out of the UI claims/benefits system within one or two or three months. That surprises me, but it wouldn't be the first time.
As you probably know, the BLS jobs report and particularly the number of unemployed and the unemployment rate are not based on a count of unemployment claims, unemployment benefits status, or any other statistics from the state unemployment offices. Rather, they come from from a completely separate survey of 60,000 households conducted by the Census Bureau where they ask a bunch of questions to determine employment / unemployment status.
>> Also, why was the adjustment for March and April only 642,000 if they had the same problem as May where you calculate it as 4.7 million? <<
The upward revision of 642,000 on the number of jobs lost in March and April combined is for the Establishment Survey.
The 3 percentage point unemployment rate error for May which led to my calculated 4.7 million additional unemployed number for May is from the separate -- completely different and separate -- Household Survey.
The March and April errors in the Household Survey have nothing to do with the March and April revisions in the Establishment Survey. Different surveys, different methods, different people doing them.
>> And it puts a world of hurt on the confidence in the employment data that it has suddenly gotten so screwed up. Heads need to roll over this given the magnitude and the importance of these reports along with the big lie photo op it gave the orange one. <<
It doesn't bother me too much that this error occurred once under these unusual circumstances. Even twice, though I would have hoped it would have become a much smaller error the second time around (it didn't -- it increased from "almost 1 percentage point" in March to "almost 5 percentage points" in April", albeit there were a lot more jobs lost in April than in March). And then it was "about 3 percentage points" in May.
Yes, this hurts their credibility a great deal. Admiral Rickover, the father of the nuclear navy, is said to have said, "To err is human. But only a horses ass makes the same mistake twice".
A bit harsh. But still it's galling that they still can't get this right or near-right 2 months later.
The Washington Post article says that despite efforts to correct the problem (good article on the problem, BTW), "lots of field staff who had a tried and true way of asking questions and they were doing what they were used to doing.
... One of the first questions that gets asked is did the person do any work for pay or profit? There are then 45 pages of follow up questions that come after that. One of those questions asks if someone was temporarily absent from the job and why that absence occurred. One of the responses is other.
The BLS instructed surveyors to try to figure out if someone was absent because of the pandemic and, if so, to classify them as on temporary layoff, meaning they would count in the unemployment data. But some people continued to insist they were just absent from work during the pandemic, and the BLS has a policy of not changing peoples answers once they are recorded. Its how the BLS protects again bias or data manipulation.
... Its surprising the BLS couldnt come up with fixes to make this work in May, said Erica Groshen, the former BLS commissioner under Obama. But, she adds, This is a very unusual situation. There are lots of field staff who had a tried and true way of asking questions and they were doing what they were used to doing.
The only political appointee at the BLS is the commissioner, who, Groshen said, does not have access to the data and only sees the finalized report.
Its like this guy keeps topping the most insane shit each week. Excuse me, each day!!
I left DU fer awhile because I like opposition to my REALity. Not to be part of a herd. But this is the only place I can release the utter rage that continues to build with each passing day. I don't know what I'll do if the United States re-elects this piece of shit
for dead man walking?
The brain died years ago, yet he still walks and talks.
Trump's presidency makes no sense.
America, at the moment, makes no sense.
Get rid of the core source of this, vote him out! Decimate the GOP!
A lot of healing needed afterwards, a lot of heads need straightening out in the process.
I dont like the man anymore than anyone else here, and his way with words is like watching a dog dial a phone.
But I watched that press conference and he referred to Mr Floyd after speaking about equality & equal treatment under the law and all that.
NOT jobs. Jobs were a different part of the statement
Of course, the "great day for him" is ridiculous. A great day for him would be that he was still ALIVE.