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Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:30 PM

California HS Students Sing NAZI SONG, Give NAZI SALUTE, Disturbing Video!



- (2 mins). ABC News report with Video, Aug. 21, '19.

- The Daily Beast, Aug. 20, '19 - "Video: California High-School Students Sang Nazi Song and Gave Hitler Salute." Athletes performed an homage to the Third Reich before an awards ceremony. Their school won’t say how they were disciplined.- A group of high-school students in Southern California gave a Nazi salute and sang a Nazi song during an awards ceremony last year, according to video reviewed by The Daily Beast.

The video shows about 10 members of the boys’ water polo team at Pacifica High School in Garden Grove, California, throwing the salute once used to greet Adolf Hitler while singing a Nazi marching song played for German troops during World War II. It’s the second such incident in the region in a year.

The video was uploaded to Instagram by one of the athletes, who also posted lyrics to the song in his Instagram bio. After the video expired, the athlete removed the reference. He did not respond to requests for comment. A spokesperson for the Garden Grove Unified School District, where Pacifica High School resides, said the school administrators first became aware of the incident and video four months later in March, but did not say if they disciplined anyone. More, https://www.thedailybeast.com/pacifica-high-school-students-sang-nazi-song-and-gave-hitler-salute

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:40 PM

1. What I want to know is WHO is making the nazi information available to students?

The nazi marching song is supposedly a rather obscure piece of music... one would almost have to know where to look to find it. How did this come to the student's attention? Are there parents that are making nazi references known to students? I. want. to. know. more.

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Response to Raster (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:52 PM

4. I'm a WWII buff and as a kid especially liked German models of their tanks,

planes and all that. By high school I'd read all kinds of WWII books, especially those about the war in Europe and Russia. A lot of that was because Germany had the coolest looking stuff to me anyway.

I suspect the song in the video is probably somewhat familiar to me from a movie or documentary, I can't make it out. I probably wouldn't have known it in high school and would never have thought anyone would be interested in it if I did. It's definitely something to go after. That behavior came from somewhere/someone.

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Response to brewens (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:59 PM

5. I heartily concur... this familiarity with the nazi customs, songs, regalia...

... is very disconcerting. They are getting this from somewhere, and the correct answer is NOT "from the Internet."

And frankly, I can understand the school trying to tamp it down a bit, but what I do not understand is why the parents are not going apeshit over this in a very public way.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:48 PM

2. Fit them

for jackboots and ship them to Afghanistan to sober up

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 01:49 PM

3. Meh...baka!

これはまったくばかげています。 Totally ignorant!

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:03 PM

6. In my High School World History class (in the Sixties) we had a week of Nazi Germany

Our teacher dressed in Nazi regalia, played German martial music, explained Nazi doctrine, and read aloud some Hitler speech excerpts. He even did a few heel clicks with a Nazi salute.

He also underscored how ridiculous and evil the whole enterprise was, with emphasis on the horrors of the War and the Holocaust.

This presentation kept the students' interest and was very informative. We were encouraged to ask questions and state our own views on the subject matter, which led to some interesting debates. For example: Is "I was just following orders" a reasonable defense for the atrocities? Amazing how many kids thought that following orders was more important than following their personal moral code.

He did the same with other time periods, dressing in period costumes and assuming the role of historical persons, reading influential literature and playing music of the times. I remember many of these presentations to this day.

I thought he was a great teacher, really going the extra mile to teach in an interesting way.

Today, of course, we would all be shocked by the viral videos the students would be posting of his antics.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 03:39 PM

11. Did he have any Holocaust survivors come and speak about their experience?

We had a few come and speak in my history classes in High School. This would have been in 1978 or 79. It was a heart-wrenching talk and many students (even some of the guys) were tearing up. I was born in Munich and we lived in Dachau so it was quite eye-opening to hear their stories and know how close I was to their experience.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 21, 2019, 02:58 AM

14. I think you freaked me out with your opening: ''Our teacher dressed in Nazi regalia"

That is so f'ed up right there. As a teacher I think I'd start my ''Nazi remembrance'' lesson with a nice topical movie of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Sobibor, Dachau, etc.. Nothing was ''cool'' about the Nazi's.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:20 PM

7. Idiots. I don't know if they thought they were "being all ironic" to tweak adult's noses, or ...

...if they really are budding white supremacist thugs.

Either way, they are *holes and should be punished by their coach and school. This is beyond unacceptable and should be stamped out before it spreads.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:27 PM

8. This is nothing to brush off or excuse. Fascism, white extremism

is serious and spreading in the US, Europe, Brazil. This is the 2nd incident in Orange Co., CA this year- the earlier 'swastika-arranged beer cups' is mentioned in the article above.

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:36 PM

9. I'm with you. Community service isn't going to make an impression, I think...

I'm thinking something more suited to the school they've befouled, and are supposed to be learning at.

The coach should bench them for a semester, at least. Or kick them off the team.

The principal should have a special after-school-detention history course designed just for them, with assigned reading and a paper at the end.

I am absolutely serious.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 02:43 PM

10. Definitely, all of the above. If this was GA, OH or AR people would

be all over it. Calif. and these privileged kids don't get a pass! This behavior is highly dangerous, not trivial and nothing to slough off..

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Response to appalachiablue (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 10:57 PM

13. **MORE Impt. Info. from the Article:

…"However, one parent of a student at Pacifica, who requested anonymity out of fear of retaliation from school officials, told The Daily Beast they were concerned educators never addressed the wider community about the video, especially since it had circulated among students. A current student likewise said the incident was never spoken about by the administration and was not sure whether the students involved were suspended.
“It’s not something you’d expect somebody to accidentally know about.” — Professor Peter Simi, Chapman University

Rabbi Peter Levi, director of the Anti Defamation League’s Orange County chapter, criticized the school for apparently failing to address the incident with the community. “Generally speaking, especially when something like this involves a group, we would think a more meaningful approach would be to use this as a learning opportunity, as an opportunity community-wide to state what our values are,” continued the rabbi. “This requires investigation and conversation… We’d like to see a more systematic response.”

The song the athletes were singing was written by German composer Herms Niel during the rise of Hitler, and was played to inspire Nazi troops serving in Germany’s armed forces from 1935 until 1945, when the Third Reich fell. Niel was a member of the Nazi party and conducted bands at the infamous Nuremberg rallies for Hitler’s disciples.

Peter Simi, a professor on extremism studies at Chapman University who lives nearby in Orange County, told The Daily Beast the song is so obscure it raises questions about how the athletes learned about it. “It’s not something you’d expect somebody to accidentally know about. There’s some means by which they acquired knowledge about the song and associated Nazi issues,” he said. “Are they on websites or web forums or other social-media platforms where they’re engaging with others informed on these issues?”

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Tue Aug 20, 2019, 08:51 PM

12. mean while in Ferndale, Washington

The Ferndale City Council passed a resolution to be a Welcoming City and denounce white supremacy. But the resolution language contains a hidden message.
Monday night's council meeting was standing-room only as the resolution was being read.
Councilmember Rebecca Xczar said the document was drafted after a series of 'neo-nazi (Patriot Front) recruitment flyers' were posted around town.
"From what I've heard, they'll test the waters in small communities," Xczar said. "And if there's a response, they'll come back. So that's part of this. We're trying to make a statement saying that we don't want that set-up here. We want everyone to feel safe."
Xczar said she wrote a thoughtful, 9-paragraph resolution with help from city staff. But a closer look reveals a more direct message.
The first letter of each declaration spelled out "f-o-c-k-n-a-z-i-s."

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