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Poland is pushing the EU into crisis (Original Post) CloudWatcher Sep 2018 OP
Very informative. Power 2 the People Sep 2018 #1
a warning lesson for what could happen here .... CloudWatcher Sep 2018 #4
Everyone needs to watch this California_Republic Sep 2018 #2
And I believe that for those that may be interested turbinetree Sep 2018 #3
K&R Thanks for Posting blue-wave Sep 2018 #5
It seems like the Poles have very short memories. smirkymonkey Sep 2018 #6

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
4. a warning lesson for what could happen here ....
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 05:32 PM
Sep 2018

Particularly disturbing is their willingness to just ignore their constitution and do what's convenient. Turtle and Trump are no doubt taking notes

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
3. And I believe that for those that may be interested
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 05:23 PM
Sep 2018

Robert Kutter has a book out that explains how this happening across Poland and other European countries................

"Can Democracy Survive Global Capitalism"


https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/35167733-can-democracy-survive-global-capitalism

blue-wave

(4,347 posts)
5. K&R Thanks for Posting
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 06:25 PM
Sep 2018

A very good though brief, historical account of the right wing fascists takeover of all of Poland's democratic institutions. The situation there (and in Hungary, Czech Republic, Slovakia and others) also places the Western Alliance, NATO, in a tough spot.

I believe Putin is behind this and has been assisted by western white supremacist groups and individuals. Remember, Putin has aligned Russian espionage with white supremacy. Don't believe me? Here is what Hillary has to say about it: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hillary-clinton-vladimir-putin-white-supremacist-russia-racist-donald-trump-a8412521.html

The world is teetering at the edge of a very dangerous, steep cliff at this moment in time. Putin wants to subjugate and subordinate all the peoples of the former Soviet Union and satellite states, possibly even beyond. This is why getting our own politics back to some level of sanity is an extremely urgent task. I hope our intelligence community is working 24/7 to right the ship both here and abroad.

On Edit: The laughably proposed "Fort Trump" will be used as justification by Putin to cause even more chaos in the European theater. I don't believe Trump's or the Polish President's sincerity on this issue. Remember Helsinki. Poor Ukraine is squeezed in a vice. I'll be hoping and praying for peace.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. It seems like the Poles have very short memories.
Tue Sep 18, 2018, 07:39 PM
Sep 2018

Why are they turning back toward authoritarianism after doing so well under the EU? I wonder if it's because so many of them who have embraced EU values have left Poland for other EU countries.

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