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Wed May 23, 2018, 03:20 PM

Nicolae Ceausescu

Listening to the news about Trump the last few months, I've thought his delusions of grandeur, paranoia, fake credentialing, downright disregard for human beings, all reminded me of someone in recent history who gets overlooked in all this talk of Hitler & Mussolini. This story reminds me of how people's cowardice and fear let someone like this rise to the top.

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Geechie May 2018 OP
underpants May 2018 #1
Geechie May 2018 #6
lunatica May 2018 #2
Geechie May 2018 #7
panfluteman May 2018 #14
panfluteman May 2018 #15
Geechie May 2018 #16
yonder May 2018 #3
smirkymonkey May 2018 #4
Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #5
smirkymonkey May 2018 #10
Hassin Bin Sober May 2018 #11
Geechie May 2018 #8
smirkymonkey May 2018 #9
panfluteman May 2018 #18
smirkymonkey May 2018 #19
panfluteman May 2018 #20
smirkymonkey May 2018 #21
sandensea May 2018 #12
Geechie May 2018 #17
MrModerate May 2018 #13

Response to Geechie (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 03:23 PM

1. That is a classic story.

Pro-government march in the morning, flying out on a helicopter in the afternoon

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:33 PM

6. Reminded me of Bill Gates

talking about Trump talking to Gates' daughter at a horse show, then leaving, then making a grand entrance shortly after by flying in on a helicopter. I mean WHO DOES THAT!?

Megalomaniacs, that's who.

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Response to Geechie (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 04:19 PM

2. It's really too bad there were no sub titles

I would have liked to see what was said about him by the people interviewed.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:34 PM

7. Yes - I looked for another version

but couldn't find one. Odd, because it was BBC!

Some of the inteviews were subtitled, others left alone.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #2)

Thu May 24, 2018, 09:07 AM

14. I'm fluent in Romanian

I could translate for you - for a fee, off course!

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #14)

Thu May 24, 2018, 09:10 AM

15. By the Way - Did You Hear the Beautiful Pan Flute Music in the Soundtrack?

The Pan Flute, believe it or not, is NOT from Peru or South America. The Pan Flute is an indigenous folk instrument of Romania. The most famous Pan Flutist, Gheorghe Zamfir, called "King of the Pan Flute" is Romanian, and is from the town of Gaiesti, on the Danubian plain about 60 miles northwest of Bucharest.

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #15)

Thu May 24, 2018, 10:55 AM

16. Yes!

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Response to Geechie (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 04:38 PM

3. watched most of it, thanks.

and history repeats itself.

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Response to Geechie (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 07:37 PM

4. Well, you know how he and his wife ended up.

Just saying.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #4)

Wed May 23, 2018, 09:55 PM

5. Yep. I'll never forget those pictures.

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Response to Hassin Bin Sober (Reply #5)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:56 PM

10. They had brought it upon themselves.

Tyrants and dictators can only go so far before the population turns on them.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #10)

Wed May 23, 2018, 11:05 PM

11. Defiant to the end.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #4)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:37 PM

8. The execution pictures were bad

But the ones that really got me were the old people and children living in boxes along the road after their city was bulldozed to make way for the new sparkly modern highway to hell. The people were starving and living in filth, freezing, and the Ceaucescus had scores of mansions they never even spent time in.

Yes, the parallels are growing in number.

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Response to Geechie (Reply #8)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:55 PM

9. Yes, but you see that they deserved their fate.

I am not going to say anymore.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #4)

Thu May 24, 2018, 02:03 PM

18. There was a conspiracy theory about that

That a Romanian-American friend of mine told me. He said that the shots that killed Nicolae Ceausescu were in an adjacent room, and that a look-alike was shot in his place, while the real Nicolae Ceausescu was spirited away to a secret hiding place, which was rumored to be underneath the tacky so-called Palace that he built for himself in the Sinaia compound of the Peles Castle, which had been the summer palace of the kings of Romania before communism, and was Ceausescu's private playground. Anyway, the rumor was that the military kept him imprisoned and alive in the basement of the tacky palace he built for himself next door to the real one of the Romanian kings, keeping him alive just so they could milk the money in his secret Swiss bank account, in order to fill the pockets of the "neo-communist" so-called democratic ruler of Romania after the fall of Ceausescu, who was Ion Iliescu, who falsely proclaimed himself in his political campaigns as "an honest man for Romania". Anyway, my Romanian-American friend said he could tell that a look alike substitute had been shot in Nicolae Ceasescu's place because the shirt on the guy in the final scene was white with thin black pin stripes, whereas the shirt worn by Nicolae Ceausescu during the trial immediately preceding was solid white. He also said that the look alike killed in Ceausescu's place died with his eyes open, revealing the presence of cataracts, whereas the real Ceausescu had no cataracts. I visited the compound in Sinaia in the early 90s, right after the fall of communism, and the tacky Ceausescu palace was heavily guarded by troops, who wouldn't let anyone near the tacky Ceausescu palace. Hmmm... Go figure!

The Romanian yogis I associated with in Romania after the fall of communism had other theories about Nicolae Ceausescu as well - that he was the reincarnation of Vlad Tepes, or Vlad the Impaler, the fifteenth century Vallachian prince who was the basis for the Dracula legend. And to make the karmic connection even clearer, Ceausescu's trial and (supposed?) execution took place in Targoviste, a provincial city some 50 miles NW of Bucharest, which had been Vlad the Impaler's capital city. Just a few short blocks from where he was executed lies the ruins of the famous Chindia Tower, where it is said that Vlad thrusted lawbreakers out the window onto the sharp wooden stakes that were waiting below, ready to impale them.

Like our current supreme leader, it was said that Nicolae Ceausescu was not too bright. Everyone in Romania joked about him not even being able to dance the hora - footage exists that shows him screwing up and tripping over every step. And his wife Elena was the self-appointed minister of science. In one of her speeches, she read the chemical symbol of CO2 as "co-doi" instead of by its proper chemical name, showing her total ignorance of even the basics of chemistry and science.

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #18)

Thu May 24, 2018, 04:50 PM

19. Hmmm, very interesting.

So was the real Elena assassinated then or was she replaced w/ a look alike as well? It's strange that the palace was so heavily guarded after their deaths.

Thanks for the info, it's something worth pondering.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #19)

Thu May 24, 2018, 06:08 PM

20. By the tacky palace, I'm talking about the Peles Castle compound in Sinaia,

Romania's most beautiful mountain resort, nestled in the heart of the Carpathian mountains, right at the base of the Bucegi massif. You can google up images of it on the internet - looks like something straight out of a Hans Christian Andersen fairytale. The Peles Castle is now a national museum, and in my opinion, it's the most spectacular tourist site in Romania, even though the Dracula Castle at Bran is more famous, for obvious reasons. We're so crazy about vampires in this country - the Romanian-American friend who told me the conspiracy theory about Ceausescu went to rent and watch videos of just about every vampire movie he could get his hands on after settling in this country. Naturally, he wanted to see what Americans thought about his country. Then, when he took me and some other friends on a tour of Romania and Transylvania after the fall of communism, when there were Transylvanian peasants selling a loaf of bread, he would tell us, "Look - Dracula bread!", or when they were selling a wheel of their homemade cheese, he would say, "Look, some Dracula cheese!" and so on.

As for Elena, I believe that it was the real Elena Ceausescu who was killed. Maybe the real Ceausescu was amusing himself with young maidens provided by the guards when he was locked up down there in the dungeon of his tacky palace. I'm sure that little Donnie would understand.

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Response to panfluteman (Reply #20)

Thu May 24, 2018, 06:41 PM

21. I actually think it is quite stunning, as it the scenery. It's very ornate, but I think that was

probably the style of the time (Victorian/Edwardian) for royalty in that part of the world. It's very imposing and eerie. I could only think "What a great place for a Halloween party!

I would love to see more of eastern Europe, including Romania. The region just fascinates me. There is still such an air of mystery about it.

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Response to Geechie (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 01:15 AM

12. Coincidentally, Cheeto is the very same age now that Ceausescu was when he was deposed.

71 years, 11 months.

Great footage - a real study in megolamania, and a very prescient one. Thanks for posting, Geechie.

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Response to sandensea (Reply #12)

Thu May 24, 2018, 10:57 AM

17. That's an eerie coincidence!

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Response to Geechie (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 02:57 AM

13. I've been thinking we might need . . .

A Ceausescu Solution in America.

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