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Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:21 PM

Is There an Actual Tape of Trumps Russia Collusion?



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Reply Is There an Actual Tape of Trumps Russia Collusion? (Original post)
L. Coyote Apr 17 OP
dixiegrrrrl Apr 17 #1
L. Coyote Apr 17 #3
pnwmom Apr 18 #6
tomhagen Apr 17 #2
cstanleytech Apr 18 #5
still_one Apr 17 #4

Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:31 PM

1. Two of them

One at the Convention when Carter page was wearing a wire an caught Yertle and ryan talking about Russian help with throwing the election
and
the one Carter apparently took to Russia, Trump supposedly on it agreeing to sell out our country.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:52 PM

3. Wrong. Carter Page is a target of the Oct. FISA warrant, so no wire at RNC on him.

If Page was collaborating in July, he would not be a warrant target in Oct.

The initial FISA warrant was issued after FBI gets the Russian Dossier. The second warrant is when they find the secret trump Russia server connection to Alfa Bank and SVB.

There may be other FISA warrants as a result of the in=nitial one or the second one, or resulting from both, depending on where the evidence pointed. Flynn and Manafort has both been shown to be foreign agents already, so they top my list. And who knows how many regular warrants are issued or even secret grand juries empaneled.

We know the White House was served papers when they ordered document preservation of all Russia related material.
That happened just before trump started cyber lynching Obama for spying on him, so I suspect trump got some bad news about being spied on himself when those papers were served.

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:24 AM

6. Not in October -- that was the Alfa bank server FISA. The Page warrant was sometime

in the summer.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/fbi-obtained-fisa-warrant-to-monitor-former-trump-adviser-carter-page/2017/04/11/620192ea-1e0e-11e7-ad74-3a742a6e93a7_story.html?utm_term=.2c9511b93cde

The FBI obtained a secret court order last summer to monitor the communications of an adviser to presidential candidate Donald Trump, part of an investigation into possible links between Russia and the campaign, law enforcement and other U.S. officials said.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:37 PM

2. Smoking Gun??

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Response to tomhagen (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:19 AM

5. Not until the tape (if it exists) is authenticated.

Personally I still lean more towards certain higher ups in Congress being the ones who were communicating with the Russians which could explain why they continue stonewall an actual independent investigation that isnt under their control as that could expose them and I doubt they want to go to prison.

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Response to L. Coyote (Original post)

Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:53 PM

4. Here is one



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