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Why has the media not Branded Dump a Flip Flopper? (Original Post) tomhagen Apr 2017 OP
Watching the MSNBC news last night at 11pm the talking heads were doc03 Apr 2017 #1
There is no real media on our side... yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #2
And the media gave trump a bullhorn mikeysnot Apr 2017 #3
Well, think why the media went along with the flip-flopper talking point... JHB Apr 2017 #4
Trump is now a "War Time" President...... SergeStorms Apr 2017 #5
There are two kinds of flip-flopping. Igel Apr 2017 #6

doc03

(35,299 posts)
1. Watching the MSNBC news last night at 11pm the talking heads were
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:14 PM
Apr 2017

making him out a hero. They are doing all they can to drum up a war with North Korea.

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
2. There is no real media on our side...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:24 PM
Apr 2017

There is right winged, and Right of center Tv News media...reports and occasionally MSNBC will drive it a tad to the left of center... But really, other than independents, like TYT, there is no Media on our side. We once had Air America, but that burned itself out, and people went their separate ways.

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
3. And the media gave trump a bullhorn
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:26 PM
Apr 2017

I blame the media and them only. I cancelled my cable and told them why.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
4. Well, think why the media went along with the flip-flopper talking point...
Fri Apr 14, 2017, 12:32 PM
Apr 2017

Because conservative pundits and media made a talking point out of it, and repeated it every day at every opportunity. And the non-conservative media acquiesced because they always shy away from accusations of "liberal media bias". Plus, Bush was good to them and their bosses.


They ain't got none'o that in the other direction.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
5. Trump is now a "War Time" President......
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 03:17 AM
Apr 2017

and we all know how weak in the knees the media gets when a President (especially a RepubliCANT President) starts flexing our military muscle toward a tin-pot dictator. They turn positively gooey, and all transgressions that President may have accrued before this dick measuring contest started, are now - not only put on the back burner - they're removed from the stove altogether.
Knowing this, Trump will be forever saber rattling, or worse, to keep the attention away from where it should be. I shudder to think what this may lead to.

Igel

(35,280 posts)
6. There are two kinds of flip-flopping.
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 12:56 PM
Apr 2017

One is when you change your mind because it's politically expedient to do so, and that's the real or even only reason. That's spineless and weaselly.

The other is when you change your mind because you've acquired new facts so that you old position is logically, factually, conceptually untenable. That's called "sane" and "reality-based." It's "ideological" only in the sense that their "ideology" is something akin to the scientific method.


Many people that are sane and reality-based recognize that this latter, second kind of flip-flopping is and should be standard in most, if not all, spheres of life. "Dammit, our president is acting rationally again!" is hardly biting, incisive criticism, and trying to portray it as such not just invites, but insistently and urgently demands ridicule.


Instead, you see stories that the president is, to our utter shock and amazement, capable of learning, of revising prior ideas when new information comes to light.

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