Mike Malloy - Why So Many People Dislike Hillary Clinton

[hschulein]

I understand why Donald Trump is so unpopular. He earned it the old-fashioned way, by being obnoxious, insulting and offensive. But why is Hillary Clinton so unpopular?

She is, at the moment, just as unpopular as Trump. In the last three major national polls she had unfavorability ratings in the same ballpark as Trump’s. In the Washington Post/ABC News poll, they are both at 57 percent disapproval.

In the New York Times/CBS News poll, 60 percent of respondents said Clinton does not share their values. Sixty-four percent said she is not honest or trustworthy. Clinton has plummeted so completely down to Trump’s level that she is now statistically tied with him in some of the presidential horse race polls.

Full story: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/24/opinion/why-is-clinton-disliked.html

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[rock]

1. Think carefully now

What's different about Hillary? Hmmm, what's different about HER?

[yeoman6987]

5. So you think Elizabeth warren would be in the same position?

I don't. In fact her favorable would be sky high.

[840high]

6. Yes it would be high.

[Cassiopeia]

14. That's right.

Hillary is an unvetted rookie candidate. We have no history to base our opinion other than the fact that she is a she.

[Gene Debs]

24. Please. We have her crappy record, which is more than enough to say "no thanks."

[Cassiopeia]

25. Exactly.

The fact that she is a she is of no consequence. Hillary's faults have nothing to do with gender.

[Feeling the Bern]

21. Support DOMA/DADT, former Wal-mart exec, voted for the Iraq War

Loves Kissinger
Endorsed by Cheney and the Kochs
Bought by Big Banks and Corporations
Uses racist language like Super Predator
Lies about pretty much everything (like being under sniper fire in Bosnia)
Proud Goldwater Girl
Independents don't trust her
45% of the Democratic voters don't trust her

Yeah. . .what's different about her?

[Kall]

22. Other than inventing stories of Bosnian sniper fire, her server being allowed, etc?

Yes, hmm.

[Vote2016]

27. People on the left love Warren and people on the right love Palin. But gender is why Hillary is

disliked and mistrusted by everyone.

Right.

[Feeling the Bern]

42. Let's not forget how admired Michelle Obama is

Yeah. . .this talking point of HRC shills falls flat fast.


Time to insult people, like I was when I was called a sore loser.

[Vote2016]

48. If the movement falls short in 2016, we'll take it in 2020.

[Gore1FL]

30. There are perfectly good females who would be wonderful presidents.

She isn't one of them.

[Gomez163]

2. Posts like this are going to end soon

[Cassiopeia]

15. Yeah,

the lock down will be done. However, the echo chamber here won't impact real voting or activism.

[Feeling the Bern]

18. Time to throw another good liberal under the bus. DU's shift to the right is nearly complete.

[Gore1FL]

29. Yep.

It will be immaterial in the likely event that she doesn't improve herself.

[senz]

33. Aw. Gomez163 wants some censorship.

Nobody shall be allowed to say anything that offends Gomez163.

[Feeling the Bern]

43. Corporate statists can't handle dissent. Must be stamped out.

Especially when they are in charge and run everything. Expect a purge at DU soon.

[senz]

46. It once would have been hard to imagine corporate statists

in the Democratic Party. If Bernie supporters were purged, DU would lose something vital.

[MFM008]

37. sick to death of the negativity

JUNE 14.

[saltpoint]

3. She'll have to get to work right away

and get her some hobbies.

Alligator wrestling would be a headline grabber, just for starters, plus it would help her carry Florida.

Throw in a couple monster truck rallies as well.

[The_Casual_Observer]

4. Might it be that Malloy listeners have been bombarded by foul bile

about Hillary for years? If you bother to listen to him you might eventually begin to believe it.

[840high]

7. I don't need Malloy to tell

me - but he is right.

[The_Casual_Observer]

8. So, what is about Trump that so attractive to you?

The Hair? The style?

[hollysmom]

9. you are living in an either/ or world - look around it is bigger than that.

I don't like artichokes and I don't like Clams, because I don't like artichokes there is no rule I have to like clams.

But I do like most other foods, go figure.

[The_Casual_Observer]

10. Good for You

[840high]

11. Up to Hillary to beat Trump - I;m

voting for Bernie.

[chwaliszewski]

13. Same here.

I'm an independent and answer to nobody. I'm voting Bernie.

[Feeling the Bern]

19. Typical. Criticize HRC. . .you must be a Trump supporter.

[MFM008]

38. JUNE 14

Then its off to sore loserville.

[Feeling the Bern]

40. Way to work to bring the party together, HRC person.

I'm sure telling Bernie supporters to go to sore loserville will get her more votes.

[Gene Debs]

26. Okay, let's play that ridiculous game. I asked this question on an open thread a few weeks back, and

got not one single response. Zero. Crickets. (which, to be fair, was exactly what I expected...)

So I'm asking you, The_Casual_Observer, directly. This is the text of the question I posted:

"So let me ask this, in all seriousness. What exactly is it about Hillary Clinton that makes her most breathless supporters so on fire to see her become President? And I mean something substantive, not the vague sense that she's "awesome" that seems to be the cornerstone of so many of her supporters' convictions.

Is it her trade policy? Because that sucks. Is it her foreign policy experience? Because that's nothing to be proud of either. Is it her stances on minimum wage and income inequality and gay rights? Because she came late to all those parties, too, and when she got there her reluctance was palpable. Is it because she's a woman? if that's the case, I can only conclude that they'd be equally happy with Carly Fiorina or Sarah Palin. Is it her pledge to "take on" Wall Street? Because that one's laughable on its face.

So please tell me, because I don't get it."

[senz]

35. I took a stab at it

here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=366513

And I may revise and post it elsewhere so a nice person can put it on twitter.

But yeah it appears to be a mysterious psychological phenomenon of identification and projection.

[Feeling the Bern]

44. It's because they have been ordered, instructed and demanded to follow the party line without

critical analysis. Because most people look and say "D" good, "R" bad.

Because the Party says, and whatever the Party says is good and right. And Emmanuel Goldstein must be destroyed. 2+2=5 because the Party says so.

Welcome to 1984. . .er, 2016.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

28. One could ask you the same question

You chose the candidate with a lesser chance to beat Trump. Why didn't you choose the candidate with the greater appeal?

[840high]

34. I'm no longer sure she has greater appeal.

[brush]

12. That's it exactly.

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She's been attacked for 25 by repugs spewing vile talking points, and now we have Dems absorbing it either consciously or subconsciously, regurgitating the repugs' continual re-enforcement like Palov's dog.

That's why. We should be smarter than that, a lot smarter.

[Cassiopeia]

16. lew?

[brush]

17. Huh?

[Skittles]

20. trash talk about Hillary works on more than just repukes

[Cassiopeia]

23. The lies Hillary tells don't work on enough Democrats.

[840high]

32. Or republicans who might

have crossed over to her to stop Trump.

[Skittles]

45. bullshit

I know the difference between honest criticism and trash talk

too many DUers and other so-called progressives DO NOT

[shadowmayor]

31. Brooks

A truly hollow-headed jackass who never seems to get "it" no matter what he's writing about. Like a more moderate version of Bill Kristol but not as evil. Brooks is what makes elites comfortable, and he's a fawning turd to the upper upper upper class of society. I think he even wrote a book about character which is priceless. He's also a whore for the Weekly Standard which has never turned a profit and is simply agitprop for the neocons and other like-mined war mongers. What a seriously delusional country we have when the likes of David Brooks are invited on the TV to share his views. Now that he's on NPR, I can't listen to anything more than the music.

[senz]

36. Total agreement.

[jamese777]

39. Gallup Poll's Annual Most Admired

Most Admired Woman
1990: Margaret Thatcher
1991: Barbara Bush
1992: Barbara Bush
1993: Hillary Rodham Clinton
1994: Hillary Rodham Clinton
1995: Mother Teresa
1996: Mother Teresa
1997: Hillary Rodham Clinton
1998: Hillary Rodham Clinton
1999: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2000: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2001: Laura Bush
2002: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2003: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2004: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2005: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2006: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2007: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2008: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2009: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2010: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2011: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2012: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2013: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2014: Hillary Rodham Clinton
2015: Hillary Rodham Clinton
http://www.gallup.com/poll/1678/most-admired-man-woman.aspx
Hillary Clinton finished first 20 times. Eleanor Roosevelt finished first 13 times and Dwight Eisenhower finished first 12 times.

[Feeling the Bern]

41. I can think of at least five women that I would put before her

Aung San Suu Kyi would be at the top.

And what do all but Mother Teresa have in common? They are all English speaking and white.

Pass on this Eurocentric, Anglocentric hogwash of a popularity contest. Not even Michelle Obama is on there. Or Malala.

Each one of those three are a million times more than HRC will ever hope to be.

[Red Knight]

47. Ugh. Thatcher and Barbara Bush?

If I were her I'd try to get my name off the list.

[Feeling the Bern]

49. To Neoliberals, Thatcher and Bush are perfect. Remember, HRC tried to say Nancy Reagan did

a lot for HIV and AIDS in the 1980s.

And neoliberals on DU and in the media defended her and attacked people who attacked her revisionism.

These are the same "Democrats" that think that Kissinger is a swell guy.

[jamese777]

52. Most Admired Man

2015: Barack Obama
2014: Barack Obama
2013: Barack Obama
2012: Barack Obam
2011: Barack Obama
2010: Barack Obama
2009: Barack Obama

2015: Most Admired Women Top Ten
1) Hillary Clinton
2) Malala Yousafzai
3) Oprah Winfrey
4) Michelle Obama
5) Carly Fiorina
6) Queen Elizabeth
7) Angela Merkel
8) Elizabeth Warren
9) Aung San Soo Kyi
10) Condoleeza Rice

[Gene Debs]

54. HA HA HA HA HA! The men category looks like one of those "elections" they have in

those third-world sham democracies where the dictator is the only one on the ballot, wins with 100% of the vote, and the state run media hails his stunning victory.

[Gene Debs]

53. Barbara Bush and Margaret Thatcher were monsters. What a list to be a part of. Nice try, though.

[Donkees]

50. In essence, it's the difference between pity and compassion

[Silver_Witch]

51. Hate is not what most feel for Clinton.

I don't actually hate any living person. I choose someone else as my candidate in this primary. Pure and simple. As to others. I can't speak. For me it is her Hawkishness and inability to recognize what he has done in the past the hurt others!

[Feeling the Bern]

55. inability to recognize what he has done in the past the hurt others! - That's called sociopathy.