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Mon May 23, 2016, 09:47 PM

2016 Psychic Presidential Prediction - You may be shocked!

Normally, I don't go in with the Psychic Shit, but it sounds good to me.

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Reply 2016 Psychic Presidential Prediction - You may be shocked! (Original post)
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 OP
edgineered May 2016 #1
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #2
edgineered May 2016 #4
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #8
Midnight Writer May 2016 #11
edgineered May 2016 #13
jalan48 May 2016 #3
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #5
jalan48 May 2016 #6
Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #9
bucolic_frolic May 2016 #7
bjobotts May 2016 #10
Hiraeth May 2016 #12
Peace Patriot May 2016 #14
tomp May 2016 #15
kathysart_decoration May 2016 #16

Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:07 PM

1. She did mention the 60's, let's go there

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Response to edgineered (Reply #1)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:10 PM

2. Great rock Opera and music.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #2)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:17 PM

4. One has to wonder

How can today's youth feel the same hopes that so many of us felt then?

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Response to edgineered (Reply #4)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:41 PM

8. This is the age of dystopia. Along with Hair, 1966 brought us Vietnam, the Civil Right Movement,

Free love, Women's liberation, and the best music of the century. American Culture had a strong undercurrent of hope in the 60's, though it ran dry in the 70's.

I don't think this generation of youth is part of a culture that finds hope.

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Response to edgineered (Reply #4)

Mon May 23, 2016, 11:56 PM

11. Hopes? You must have had a different experience. Me? I was scared shitless.

I was scared of being drafted. I was scared of my friends and family being drafted. I was scared from watching folks I knew come home from Viet Nam totally fucked up, sometimes physically and sometimes mentally. i was scared of picking up my home town newspaper and reading the list of casualties every week.

I was scared of the crazy ass politicians who were deciding it was a good idea to sent young Americans overseas to fight in a goddamn civil war that could not ever possibly be won and it didn't matter a rat's shit to our national interests anyway.

I was scared of the crazy racists who were hell bent on keeping the minorities "in their place". And yes, I was scared of the minorities who were rioting and setting fire to their own cities.

On the plus side, though, the music was awesome.

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Response to Midnight Writer (Reply #11)

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:37 AM

13. There were only two years of draft eligibility for me

The first year my number was in the high 200's, in the second year before the draft ended it was in the upper double digits, 80-something I think. The attitudes in the rural community of my youth are remembered anytime that I watch the 1934 version of Cleopatra; the scene in which Marc Anthony is delighted that Rome declares war. The locals were thrilled by Kent State, thought Lt Calley (Mai Lai massacre) was a hero, and hoped for another chance to use a nuke. It didn't take me long to leave that behind. As far a the racists go, back then they were openly aggressive., these days they don't even know that they are. Try asking someone the name of the young black guy (Clean) who was killed on the boat in Apocolypse Now. Most can't tell you even if the movie isn't even over. You would think people could relate to a good kid with a loving family, but I guess it's just not in their nature?

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Response to edgineered (Reply #1)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:15 PM

3. Right on man!

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #3)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:19 PM

5. She does inspire that sense, as if we caught a time warp back to the 60's.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Reply #5)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:23 PM

6. Yes, but I've become more cynical as I've aged.

I'd be curious what her predictions are for the concentration of wealth in the country. Does it mean women will become the primary, predatory capitalists?

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Response to jalan48 (Reply #6)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:43 PM

9. I think cynicism with age is a strong survival trait.

I doubt she sees predatory capitalists in her horoscope.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Mon May 23, 2016, 10:28 PM

7. A Thinking Man's Sarah Palin

Babe, let's do lunch

Can I get you to take off those glasses?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #7)

Mon May 23, 2016, 11:19 PM

10. Go read Echart Tolle's a New Earth. Consciousness Awareness will change society.

 

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 12:20 AM

12. I like her. I'd have a cuppa with her.

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 03:31 AM

14. Well, I don't agree with her that Hillary Clinton is a "transition" figure to a...

...feminine world view (based on the Mayan calendar), unless that feminine world that is allegedly dawning is one in which women laugh when an "enemy" is raped with a bayonet and murdered (that's how Gadaffi, who had been providing a subsidy income to every Libyan from the oil revenues), died, in what is called "Hillary's War" in Washington DC. (Hillary declares, "We came, we saw, he died!" and then laughs--it's on vid.)

And I don't consider the murder of Berta Caceres, an indigenous woman in Honduras, winner of the "Goldman Environmental Prize," and the murders of hundreds of women like her--leaders of environmental and pro-democracy movements in Honduras--by the fascist pigs whom Clinton put in power, to be reflective of anything I would call feminism or a feminine world view, or even a "transition" to feminism. Then there are the murders of LGBT people by the fascists in Honduras--thousands! And the women of Libya, now exposed to the brutal IS jihadists, as well as to the random rape and brutality of a society ripped apart by Western violence--like Iraq, like Syria--toward all of which Clinton apes the belligerent, callous, world dominationist, Neo-Con view of the "Big Boys Club" like her advisors, Robert Kagan (architect of "The Project for a New American Century"--Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld's blueprint for military occupation of the Middle East and its oil) and her good friend and advisor Henry Fucking Kissinger.

So I think this psychic is full of shit on this matter--the "transition" to a feminine world view--and I don't necessarily scoff at psychic powers. Hillary Clinton is a "transition" figure for the Forever War that will now continue with a "liberal" facade. That is the "transition" that is taking place, not anything Mayan, but something that is uniquely North American: A few women and LGBT people will be permitted into the inner sanctum of war and power, but most will not be, along with most men and most racial and religious minorities who comprise the poor 99%. As for the women and LGBT people in Honduras, forget them. They don't count even a little bit in the corridors of power. And the women of the U.S.-destroyed countries, count even less, if that is possible.

So here's my psychic feeling about it all. We are most certainly entering the era of Mother Earth, or re-entering it, if feminist historians, anthropologists and archeologists are right--and I do think they are--that human beings worshiped a Goddess long before they worshiped a God. Male energy has certainly dominated the modern era for good--sometimes great good--and for ill--sometimes great ill, with the final great ill being the destruction of Mother Earth. It is out of necessity, then, that we must PUSH ourselves out of this male energy era, not into worshiping a Goddess or Mother Earth again, but into recognition of Mother Earth's vulnerability to US, with all our widgets and gadgets and oil wells and clever-as-hell toxins. We must stop plundering the earth for oil, and plundering other human beings and landscapes to get their oil. We must stop cutting down trees and start planting them. We must put a stiff tax on everything that destroys Mother Earth, and drive those things out of production, while creating a new sustainable and prosperous world.

That's a tall order. And there is only one candidate for president who understands it and is trying to help us move into this new era of Mother Earth. And that is Bernie Sanders, who is completely unbeholden to the money interests who are destroying the earth, who feels kinship with the organic farmers in his senate constituency, in Vermont, and who states that strong action on climate change is our MORAL duty AND that government MUST help the poor in the transition to a sustainable and prosperous world.

I liked one statement of this psychic, that, "You're human--you are fueled by light!" She was saying that we, as human beings, are not Trump supporters, or Clinton supporters, or Sanders supporters--that these are temporary divisions in the artificial political world, and that, at bottom, we all have the capacity to be something more awesome: human--and humans and all living things are fueled by light. Very true. But the psychic veers off from that insight in her screwy interpretation of war hawk Hillary as the "transition" to the feminine, and her interpretation of Trump as representative of the old, male-dominated world--he is not even close. The old, male-dominated world was very creative, and ultimately very open-minded and liberal, or parts of it were. Thus we have refrigerators and the Enlightenment, computers and the Declaration of Independence, washing machines and the United Nations, Van Gogh paintings and the New Deal. Trump has not created a damn thing that is useful to the human race, and is a phony candidate for president CREATED BY the Corrupt Media.

This psychic's appeal to us to give up our fight for a better world and our fear of a bad one is ridiculous. This kind of head-in-the-sand New Age crapola is not useful to anybody.

She said one other thing that I agree with. We must not look to saviors. Sanders has said this time and time and time again. We, all of us, must be our own saviors. No leader can do what needs to be done, to save our democracy and our planet, all alone. No kings or queens. No imperial presidents. WE are the saviors we have been looking for.

On the whole, this vid is just "feel good" blather, with one or two interesting insights amidst a lot of mush. We could use a REAL Cassandra right now, who tells us just what is going to happen, to both Trojans and Greeks, when the Greeks' phony horse is welcomed into Troy.

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Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #14)

Tue May 24, 2016, 05:50 AM

15. Nice take. Thanks. nt.

 

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Response to Agnosticsherbet (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2016, 07:49 AM

16. Good Stuff

 

Great pep talk to start the day. I needed this. Thank you.

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