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Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | OP |
Kip Humphrey | Apr 2016 | #1 | |
Scuba | Apr 2016 | #3 | |
Hiraeth | Apr 2016 | #25 | |
jwirr | Apr 2016 | #36 | |
HooptieWagon | Apr 2016 | #2 | |
dchill | Apr 2016 | #6 | |
valerief | Apr 2016 | #9 | |
CoffeeCat | Apr 2016 | #28 | |
appalachiablue | Apr 2016 | #34 | |
Plucketeer | Apr 2016 | #4 | |
CoffeeCat | Apr 2016 | #33 | |
jwirr | Apr 2016 | #39 | |
haikugal | Apr 2016 | #5 | |
dchill | Apr 2016 | #8 | |
BeanMusical | Apr 2016 | #13 | |
Enthusiast | Apr 2016 | #26 | |
blackspade | Apr 2016 | #7 | |
Gregorian | Apr 2016 | #10 | |
MissDeeds | Apr 2016 | #16 | |
cantbeserious | Apr 2016 | #11 | |
dchill | Apr 2016 | #12 | |
msanthrope | Apr 2016 | #14 | |
Peace Patriot | Apr 2016 | #20 | |
Enthusiast | Apr 2016 | #27 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #37 | |
BeanMusical | Apr 2016 | #15 | |
RATM435 | Apr 2016 | #17 | |
George II | Apr 2016 | #18 | |
scottie55 | Apr 2016 | #19 | |
sulphurdunn | Apr 2016 | #21 | |
saidsimplesimon | Apr 2016 | #22 | |
Enthusiast | Apr 2016 | #29 | |
OwlinAZ | Apr 2016 | #30 | |
Enthusiast | Apr 2016 | #23 | |
RoccoR5955 | Apr 2016 | #24 | |
YOHABLO | Apr 2016 | #31 | |
NCjack | Apr 2016 | #32 | |
jwirr | Apr 2016 | #40 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #46 | |
jwirr | Apr 2016 | #35 | |
felix_numinous | Apr 2016 | #38 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #41 | |
felix_numinous | Apr 2016 | #42 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #43 | |
felix_numinous | Apr 2016 | #45 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #44 | |
felix_numinous | Apr 2016 | #47 | |
Bohemianwriter | Apr 2016 | #48 | |
silvershadow | Apr 2016 | #49 |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:27 AM
Kip Humphrey (4,753 posts)
1. Legal or not, ethics and morality still apply in this country. We DO have an honorable alternative:
Bernie Sanders.
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Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:48 AM
Scuba (53,475 posts)
3. + Eighty gazillion
Response to Scuba (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:40 AM
Hiraeth (4,805 posts)
25. + Eighty brazillion !!
Response to Kip Humphrey (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:06 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
36. Totally agree but can we get him past a rigged election?
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:29 AM
HooptieWagon (17,064 posts)
2. They're not worried about legality.
They want to coronate the Queen, by hook or by crook. They'll go "oops, sorry" later.
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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:03 AM
dchill (26,090 posts)
6. Later, when it's too late.
By then, I'm sure the theory is that President Clinton II can just pardon the whole DNC and the 33 individual state Democratic party organizations. The sleaze is spread SO thick and wide.
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Response to dchill (Reply #6)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:05 AM
valerief (53,235 posts)
9. The old Plunder and Whoops strategy. They plunder and say, "Whoops," later. nt
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:47 AM
CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)
28. So off-the-charts corrupt
and underhanded.
So many parts of her campaign are nefarious, based on dirty tricks or unfair advantages. From the rigged debate schedule to the money laundering to the bizarre epidemic of primary-election and caucus debacles. The Clinton campaign is sketchy on multiple levels. |
Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:25 AM
appalachiablue (29,559 posts)
34. Don't DARE say any truth or you 1. hurt the 'frontrunner'! 2. elect Trump! 3. are sexist!
Whatever HC did while SoS can be covered by "She was working for Obama". Got it.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:52 AM
Plucketeer (12,882 posts)
4. I truly regret the years
I went along with the: Republicans BAD - Democrats GOOD, game. Sure, there's the honest Dem or two. But so many of them really have no choice but to get swept up in the whirlwinds of money-grubbing that is CLEARLY the primary force of propulsion in our political systems today. Does it even matter which is in power anymore? Well, yes it does. Look at Governor McCauliffe vs. Governor Brownback for contrast. But the MONEY - the fucking money.... And WHO is it that says they'll have a litmus test for prospective SCOTUS picks???
I got a small tax refund from our state taxes. I'm going to donate it to our front man's efforts. It's ALL I can do, but at least I'll know where it went and what it's spent for. It's spent on US. |
Response to Plucketeer (Reply #4)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:09 AM
CoffeeCat (24,411 posts)
33. This election has certainly
blown to hell the "Republicans/bad-Democrats/bad belief.
This primary has shifted the entire paradigm. It's very clear now that the demarkations are the corrupt establishment vs the non-establishment--which is made up of many Democrats. Whether or not those non-establishment Dems work to fight within the party to rid our party of this aggressive cancer, remains to be seen. I hope that's what happens. These corrupters of basic democracy are powerful now, but I don't see their antics as being an effective, long-term strategy. It's like watching Walter White slowly implode. As you get in deeper with the corruption and crimes--the number of unstable and nefarious people within the framework grows. This creates risk and instability--which requires more corruption and lies to sustain the crimes. Fans of Breaking Bad know exactly what I'm talking about. Corruption is not an optimal long-term strategy. Furthermore, corrupt systems don't exist in a vacuum. They are part of the real world. Good guys exist in the real world too--that includes regular folks who fight corruption as well as law enforcement, powerful leaders who are not corrupt and "We The Prople" who are demanding the snuffing out of corruption within our systems. Ultimately, the good guys will win. Unfortunately, it's not going to happen overnight. |
Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #33)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:35 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
39. Coffee, has the Iowa state convention happened yet? I am
interested if there was any indications regarding this. We need to bring it up at each convention and make as much noise as possible.
If we let this drop it will be covered up and happen the next time some crooked politician is running. We need who actually signed on to this deal so that they can be removed from leadership. The sooner someone digs deeply into this the better. We are being asked to vote on the local party leadership in each convention we go to - are we unknowingly voting for the crooks and liars? |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 09:54 AM
haikugal (6,476 posts)
5. Even the Koch brothers want her...the party and country are completely corrupted by these
Criminals...and the Clintons have done their part for decades.
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Response to haikugal (Reply #5)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:04 AM
dchill (26,090 posts)
8. There's your sign.
Response to haikugal (Reply #5)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:12 AM
BeanMusical (4,389 posts)
13. Yep.
Charles Koch: Clinton Might Make Better President Than Republican Candidates
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Billionaire industrialist Charles Koch, a key source of financing for conservative Republican causes along with his brother, said Democrat Hillary Clinton might make a better president than the candidates in the Republican field. Koch, in an interview to air on Sunday on ABC’s “This Week” program, said that in some respects Bill Clinton had been a better president than George W. Bush, who Koch said had increased government spending. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/koch-clinton-president-republicans_us_571c35c5e4b0d912d5fee371 |
Response to BeanMusical (Reply #13)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:44 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
26. George W. Bush increased government spending?
Duh.
He started two wars. Koch was playing dumb when he said that. Jeez. |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:03 AM
blackspade (10,056 posts)
7. Apparently.
But still shady as hell and unethical given that our candidate hasn't been settled yet.
This is a prime example of the establishment sustaining itself. The Democratic Party has done a swan dive into the Republican ethics mire. |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:06 AM
Gregorian (23,867 posts)
10. Crooked Clinton
It took Trump to point it out. How degrading.
Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party. |
Response to Gregorian (Reply #10)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:15 AM
MissDeeds (7,499 posts)
16. "Clinton is a stain on the Democratic party."
Last edited Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:41 AM - Edit history (1) Both of them.
There is nothing democratic about the Democratic Party. Shameful. |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:06 AM
cantbeserious (13,039 posts)
11. HRC - Duplicity Is As Duplicity Does
eom
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:11 AM
dchill (26,090 posts)
12. "Is this even legal?"
No.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:12 AM
msanthrope (37,549 posts)
14. Good. nt
Response to msanthrope (Reply #14)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:27 AM
Peace Patriot (24,010 posts)
20. If you believe that Clinton is a champion for everyday Americans,
it figures that you would think corruption is "good."
Upside down thinking. |
Response to Peace Patriot (Reply #20)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:46 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
27. + 1 bazillion!
Response to msanthrope (Reply #14)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:11 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
37. What is good?
An alleged non partisan leadership funneling money to destroy the only real liberal running since Carter?
Wonder if you think this is equally good: ![]() |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:13 AM
BeanMusical (4,389 posts)
15. Kick and R
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:20 AM
RATM435 (392 posts)
17. #toneitdown
This is just the beginning of the corrupt 3 term of bill clinton i know, i know, tone it down.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:21 AM
George II (59,780 posts)
18. False. Completely false. If anything she's been "funneling" money from her fundraisers...
...to the DNC and lower level DEMOCRATIC candidates.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:25 AM
scottie55 (1,400 posts)
19. And Hillary Will Be Arrested In 3, 2, ...... Never
Laws are to be laughed at.
Champagne, and caviar anyone? |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:27 AM
sulphurdunn (6,891 posts)
21. Hillary Clinton might serve her voting constiuents
to the extent it doesn't conflict with servicing her paying clients. One can always hope.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:33 AM
saidsimplesimon (7,671 posts)
22. Will the DNC report themselves? hahaha
I support Senator Sanders and agree with those Democratic leaders, like VP Biden, who say we need an alternative to Clinton all the way to the election and perhaps even beyond.
I am not discouraged by Mrs. Clinton’s win in NY. In fact, the voter suppression going on at the polls in many states is so disgraceful it did encourage me to make another donation to Senator Sanders’ campaign. What’s going on in the CBC (DNC,DSC) as it relates to Donna Edwards? Are Clinton supporters trying to influence the outcome of this election? Is she being punished for taking Progressive positions and supporting Senator Sanders’ campaign? I will donate to Rep. Edwards’ campaign even though I do not live in Maryland. Black Lives Matter |
Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #22)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:49 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
29. Huge +1!
Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #22)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:53 AM
OwlinAZ (410 posts)
30. How can you doubt it?
The Clintons' perpetual anger has been known and accepted for many years.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:39 AM
Enthusiast (50,983 posts)
23. It is not legal. But that no longer appears to matter to supporters.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:39 AM
RoccoR5955 (12,471 posts)
24. It's bribary, plain and simple.
The powers that be do not want Bernie, so they are funneling their money to a launderer, who will distribute it not equally to ALL candidates, but to one crooked candidate, who will accept the bribe.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 10:57 AM
YOHABLO (7,358 posts)
31. How can HRC supporters be so naive as to believe she will not owe bankers favors?
How can these people turn a blind eye to all of this. Well I guess I've about answered my own question in that the MSM is not reporting this malfeasance. Nada.
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 11:05 AM
NCjack (7,986 posts)
32. This allegation is easily disproved. DWS: show us the financial book
of the DNC.
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Response to NCjack (Reply #32)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:48 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
40. And open the books of state parties. If they are part of this
deal they need to tell us now. I wonder if members if the party have any right to see the books?
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Response to NCjack (Reply #32)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
46. Who will show theirs first?
Will Hillary release the Wall Street transcripts first, or will DWS be the first?
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:05 PM
jwirr (39,215 posts)
35. Thank you Cenk. The country needs to hear this and it needs
to hear it before the state conventions. This needs to be a huge issue at state conventions for one big reason. By making this deal the 33 states have taken away our vote.
They are deliberately giving one candidate a huge head start before we ever got to vote and before even one debate was heard. In doing so these state leaders have lost any faith we have placed in them and that is what they deserve. I would like to see this investigated by a neutral party to find out just exactly how this was accomplished. Is there anyone at the top we can trust? Who in the party knew this was being done? How far down in the party leadership is this reaching? I am a delegate for Bernie. Have been to the caucus and a convention as well as a committee meeting for the local area. How am I supposed to know who to trust? And as a delegate I have got to tell you that I am under no illusions that what I am doing at these meetings has anything to do with electing a nominee even though my state went for Bernie. |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 12:14 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
38. They are enabling another stolen election
instead of doing their jobs to assure all votes are counted. They are part of the problem, looking the other way while this election has been obviously tampered with.
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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #38)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:35 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
41. Nah...
Just a smoke screen.
We're all conspiracy buffs.... As described here.... &index=12&list=WL |
Response to Bohemianwriter (Reply #41)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:38 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
42. Thanks
If it wasn't so tragic it would be hilarious.
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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #42)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:41 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
43. I'm practically pissing on myself with laughter...
But that's just the cynical Carlinist in me coming out...
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Reply #43)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:43 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
45. It's a bad cartoon
a comedy that writes itself
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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #38)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:42 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
44. According to Establishment...the meme is..
"Nothing to see here Bernie bros"...
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Reply #44)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:44 PM
felix_numinous (5,198 posts)
47. Millions of dollars spent proudly
for internet trolls, there is no shame.
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Response to felix_numinous (Reply #47)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 01:46 PM
Bohemianwriter (978 posts)
48. It's going to be so much fun...
Taking their feeble "arguments" down...
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Response to Bohemianwriter (Original post)
Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:49 PM
silvershadow (10,336 posts)
49. kick