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Published on Jan 11, 2016
Here comes Bernie! New polls show Hillary Clintons Iowa lead is all but gone within the margin of error. She has been put on Bern notice. Cenk Uygur, host of the The Young Turks, breaks it down.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)He is saying what we have well a lot of people here have been saying for months and months and months well since about June. I never thought that Bernie would not win big in New Hampshire. I have always thought he would win in Iowa and yes he is still statistically sort of behind. But, how many of those polls exclude voters under 26? I know a few did at least if they are still doing that then Bernie is going to sweep a whole lot of states that the polls show Hillary with only a slight lead and he will still win many with Hillary having what appears to be a comfortable lead.
libodem
(19,288 posts)Robbins
(5,066 posts)the idea nothing would change when bernie wins iowa and NH is so laughable.
When that happens nevada becomes race.bernie is getting more and more hispanic support as time goes on.Nevada is caucus.clintons don't like caucus because until bill in 1992 she does not do well in getting enthusiastic supporters to caucus.
remember there was accusation of dirty tricks at nevada caucus in 2008 and even then she got popular vote but obama got
more delegates out of nevada.
the odds are clinton may still win In SC but i think it may not be the blowout win for her people excepted.
remember before iowa win in 2008 Obama was behind In SC.also i remember polls just before SC when it looked like obama would only win SC narrowly.he crushed her In SC.that was night when we knew blacks had deserted clinton for obama and had joined
young voters.let's not rewrite history while obama got more endorsements than bernie has Clinton still was viewed as the establishment choice.Obama was the insurgent candidate against Inevitable Clinton.
Bernie too is Insurgent candidate.
if you watched the west wing Bartlet and Santos were insurgent candidates who were elected president.Bartlet's 2 VP Hones and Russell were establishment candidates.Hoynes was beaten by Bartlet,and was CLinton Type and Russell was uninspiring type who Santos beat coming from way behind.while Santos was tv hispanic version of Obama there is a little bit of similar to consider both he and bartlett to bernie.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...especially in an insurgent campaign like Bernie's.
Which, taken at the flood, leads on to fortune;
Omitted, all the voyage of their life
Is bound in shallows and in miseries.
On such a full sea are we now afloat,
And we must take the current when it serves,
Or lose our ventures.
--Shakespeare (okay okay it's Brutus speaking, but still, s'truth)