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Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:28 PM

Pic Of The Moment: Anti-Choice Insanity



Anti-choicer Admits Regulating Womenís Sexuality, Not Abortion, Drives Planned Parenthood Attacks


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Reply Pic Of The Moment: Anti-Choice Insanity (Original post)
EarlG Oct 2015 OP
Pedoviejo2 Oct 2015 #1
tk2kewl Oct 2015 #8
1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #25
LittleGirl Oct 2015 #40
Ken Burch Oct 2015 #103
4_TN_TITANS Oct 2015 #107
maddiemom Oct 2015 #65
Warpy Oct 2015 #82
timdog44 Oct 2015 #99
GeoWilliam750 Oct 2015 #100
Fortinbras Armstrong Oct 2015 #117
wordpix Oct 2015 #125
trillion Oct 2015 #140
TygrBright Oct 2015 #2
Marthe48 Oct 2015 #3
Botany Oct 2015 #4
Duppers Oct 2015 #38
LittleGirl Oct 2015 #41
MynameisBlarney Oct 2015 #54
hifiguy Oct 2015 #66
sulphurdunn Oct 2015 #88
Quasimodem Oct 2015 #95
trillion Oct 2015 #142
WhoIsNumberNone Oct 2015 #161
awoke_in_2003 Oct 2015 #85
appalachiablue Oct 2015 #150
Marthe48 Oct 2015 #5
bulloney Oct 2015 #13
Hortensis Oct 2015 #120
knightmaar Oct 2015 #32
IrishEyes Oct 2015 #122
wordpix Oct 2015 #126
whopis01 Oct 2015 #133
Marthe48 Oct 2015 #136
XenaAmazon Oct 2015 #137
whopis01 Oct 2015 #146
trillion Oct 2015 #143
quakerboy Oct 2015 #158
BlueJazz Oct 2015 #6
droidamus2 Oct 2015 #7
maddiemom Oct 2015 #69
niyad Oct 2015 #90
DhhD Oct 2015 #106
wryter2000 Oct 2015 #9
bulloney Oct 2015 #14
Rocknrule Oct 2015 #128
trillion Oct 2015 #145
smirkymonkey Oct 2015 #115
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tartan2 Oct 2015 #11
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maddiemom Oct 2015 #72
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d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #63
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SpankMe Oct 2015 #45
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olddots Oct 2015 #52
Helen Borg Oct 2015 #53
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passiveporcupine Oct 2015 #57
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #58
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Lorien Oct 2015 #101
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whathehell Oct 2015 #148
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Kath1 Oct 2015 #104
longship Oct 2015 #105
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KG Oct 2015 #114
Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #116
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hopeforchange2008 Oct 2015 #119
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trillion Oct 2015 #138
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jalan48 Oct 2015 #147
sammythecat Oct 2015 #152
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Dont call me Shirley Oct 2015 #154
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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:33 PM

1. Hunh?

Poor lady; she deserves our sympathy.

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:50 PM

8. and maybe a little fun of her own

 

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:31 PM

25. Or, some really good sex ...

 

free from the fear of an unwanted pregnancy, contracting a disease, or any of the other things PP's services prevent.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:48 PM

40. Spot On 1SBM - spot on! eom

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #25)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:12 PM

103. Are you volunteering to help out with that?

 



Might be a combat medal in it for you.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #103)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:07 PM

107. Or at least hazardous duty pay ; )

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:07 PM

65. True.

What a sad attitude to have: particularly for a woman in this century.

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #65)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:38 PM

82. It's also "do as I say, not as I do"

because she's only got 3 children. There had to be some evil birth control in there somewhere.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #82)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:45 PM

99. Perhaps

she only had sex three times

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Response to Warpy (Reply #82)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:56 PM

100. Not necessarily

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:02 AM

117. Exactly my thought

I shudder to think about what any sexual relationships she has ever had must be like.

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:58 AM

125. translation: "I need to get laid & have never had an orgasm"

Therefore, no one should have one...?

Some real twisted thinking there

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Response to Pedoviejo2 (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:51 PM

140. No she doesn't. She's another rw extreme nutcase who wants to force us to live like her.

 

These people get the whole ball of wax. This woman will also be a racist and massively sociopathic against helping people.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:33 PM

2. OK, I TRIED to be the first to rec this...

But yeah, this needs to become a meme or something.

Mind you, it won't change any of the "abortion is murdering poor helpless pre-born babies" minds, not at all.

And it won't change any of the patriarchal "wimmins is outta control and that's the root of everything wrong" minds.

But it takes away the "human shield" of the baby-killing assertions pretty effectively.

And it might-- just MIGHT-- make some fence-sitters of the "this isn't really the MOST important issue" variety land on the useful side of the fence, running.

wistfully,
Bright

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:33 PM

3. Try it, you'll like it

n/t

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:34 PM

4. I don't think having sex for pleasure is gonna be a problem for Monica.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:33 PM

38. LOL!!!



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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:49 PM

41. LOL, I love that! eom

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:10 PM

66. Not much to be worried about there, ladies.

 

Whether the fellas drink or not.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:27 PM

88. Ah, OK.

 

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #54)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:59 PM

95. My lips would have to touch a heck of a lot of liquor before I'd let my lips touch those.

Not just pints or quarts ... hogsheads, maybe.

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #54)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:55 PM

142. No wonder they made drinking legal again.

 

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Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #54)

Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:55 AM

161. Is that a guarantee?

I think lips that are sober might have some reservations too.

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:42 PM

85. I resisted going there...

 

but I fully agree

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Response to Botany (Reply #4)

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 11:00 AM

150. Couldn't resist this portrayal which comes to mind- SNL comedian Dana Carvey's 'Church Lady'..

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:39 PM

5. Are men really on board?

There are 2 sides to the coin. And I have a feeling if people are barred from having sex, they will find other outlets, which is also frowned upon. Seinfeld 'The Contest' comes to mind.

I think the Shakers had sex twice a year for procreation. There aren't any more Shakers. But they made great furniture.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:01 PM

13. If Monica Miller's mindset takes hold, there will be a lot of nervous sheep.

Why can't old prudes like her get through their heads that sex can be an expression of love and not just a means of reproducing?

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Response to bulloney (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:01 AM

120. Her mindset is shared by many, many millions. Most of the GOP candidates

this time around and in the past endorse it. JEBush! suggested we return to shaming unwed mothers. Their excuse is ALWAYS, invariably that unwed mothers can't care for their children, but we all know that isn't true.

The sin under constant attack is sex outside of marriage. Most "small government" conservatives actually want huge government of our sexual lives.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:55 PM

32. No, that doesn't work.

The kind of men we're talking about are perfectly capable of demanding their wives be virgins while also sleeping with a lot of women, calling the one who do sleep with them certain bad names and calling the ones who won't sleep with them other bad names.

These people are not, generally speaking, aware of cognitive dissonance.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:25 AM

122. Shakers didn't have sex at all.

They had good beliefs about about gender and racial equality, simple living, hard work and nonviolence. They helped escaped slaves. Unfortunately since there was no sex and therefore no children they eventually basically died out.

From Wikipedia

Shakers were celibate; procreation was forbidden after they joined the society (except for women who were already pregnant at admission). Children were added to their communities through indenture, adoption, or conversion. Occasionally a foundling was anonymously left on a Shaker doorstep. They welcomed all, often taking in orphans and the homeless. For children, Shaker life was structured, safe and predictable, with no shortage of adults who cared about their young charges.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:00 PM

126. my theory is that Shakers shook because

They were having group sex in the name of the lord, with their clothes on

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:38 PM

133. There are still shakers

There is an active community in Maine.

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Response to whopis01 (Reply #133)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 06:30 PM

136. Good to know.

I wonder if they areoffspring, or a new modern group?

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #136)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:18 PM

146. They are a continuation of the same group

There were a number of communities throughout new england. They consolidated as their numbers dwindled. In the past they tended to adopt from orphanages to keep their numbers up.

I am not sure, but I believe the one in Maine may be the last of them (as a community at least)

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:57 PM

143. There's an argument that the whole nazi thing was because of repressed sexual urges. Well the RW

 

does love war and guns and violence.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #5)

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 11:58 PM

158. They dont have to be on board

It only applies to women. Boys will be boys, and the women who indulge them will be looked down upon.

I dont believe the shakers were supposed to procreate at all. Not even twice a year, none at all.

And last Id heard there were still a few shakers. according to al jazera, they have actually had a 33% growth over the past few years. http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/5/3/last-shakers-hope-novice-can-revive-communal-society.html

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:45 PM

7. Nothing new here

Anybody that is old enough to have been around pre-Roe v Wade knows this has always been the case. The original arguments against Roe and abortion mostly centered around something like 'Bad girls should not be able to get out of their immoral mistakes by getting an abortion they should have to become mothers as their punishment for having the temerity to have sex outside of marriage'. Once Roe v Wade was passed they realized that argument was not working so they started pushing the 'its a baby' argument. I guess they figured an emotional argument works better than a moral argument.

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Response to droidamus2 (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:24 PM

69. Yep. I never realized it before, but I came of age before Roe vs Wade.

In fact, I'm a bit older than Miller (Infamous Sixties generation). A girl in my dorm came back from an illegal abortion and nearly bled to death (not an uncommon happening in my generation). She was a "slut," of course and it served her right, according to a couple of really "Christian" dorm mates. Not once was anything said about a "baby" being "murdered." That argument was never mentioned, or even considered in those days.

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Response to droidamus2 (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:42 PM

90. but now they are admitting it openly again.

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Response to droidamus2 (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:42 PM

106. Yes this evolved from having pain in childbirth to having pain in intercourse.

Having pain in being a woman; Eve, that scoundrel will be punished, wanting to have sex with Adam; God's judgment according to Genesis.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:52 PM

9. Obvious

If they were truly anti-abortion, they'd be pro-birth control.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #9)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:06 PM

14. If they were truly pro-life, they'd be leading discussion on a number of other issues.

Capital punishment, warmongering, health care reform to name a few.

But, they don't discuss these issues. My cynical side says it's because most of these people are rabid Republicans and abortion is one of the few "pure" issues where they can make elections a "our way or no way" discussion. If you throw in conservatives' support for capital punishment, Bush's wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and conservatives' opposition to any attempt at health care reform, it muddies the water.

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Response to bulloney (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:57 PM

128. If men could get pregnant

Republicans would make sure abortion was an option on the Redbox screen

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Response to bulloney (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:02 PM

145. +10000, even their denial of the environment - they were massively agianst the environmental

 

protection agency and against anti-pollution laws long before climate change came along. It's that they really aren't pro life - any life, human, animal, or plant.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #9)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:01 AM

115. Exactly! That's the dead give away right there.

They just want to make sure that if women have sex, they are going to suffer the consequences.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:53 PM

10. In Catholic School the priest used to tell us not to entertain impure thoughts.

I told him that when I entertain impure thoughts they entertain me in return, so it seems like a win-win to me.

(well, I didn't use exactly those words.)

(Well, I didn't actually say anything, but I thought it.)

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:54 PM

11. Apparently Monica Miller

has never experienced an organism because if she had, she would shut the fuck up!!

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Response to tartan2 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:07 PM

15. You mean "orgasm," don't you?

I'm sure she's "experienced" a few organisms in her day.

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Response to tartan2 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:40 PM

72. "Miller" is apparently her married name.

Makes you wonder...

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Response to maddiemom (Reply #72)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:41 PM

94. Are you sure? (Oh, that poor SOB). /nt

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Response to tartan2 (Reply #11)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:35 PM

108. Maybe she should visit Hawaii?

http://www.foodbeast.com/news/mushgasm/

Stole this from the Lounge

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:00 PM

12. Definition of a 'puritan:'

"PURITAN: One who is tormented by the thought that, someone, somewhere, may be enjoying themselves."

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:09 PM

16. We've known all along that this was the case. But here's what's SO STUPID about all this...

 

... "Sex for recreation, sex for mere pleasure" is just FINE with evangelicals and pro-lifers -- but ONLY WHEN MEN DO IT. When it became possible for women to do that, well all HELL broke loose. Because males are some kind of privileged and women aren't human anyway, they're just breeding cattle - incubators on the hoof for men to use as service units. This is the asshole attitude behind the fact that we typically blame victims for rape - telling them don't wear this and that, don't walk here or there, don't go here or there, don't drink, "what did YOU do to cause yourself to get raped?!", etc. etc. -- but they NEVER EVER TELL RAPISTS NOT TO RAPE PEOPLE -- absolutely ZERO education around that at all.

Rape is fine in our society, some of it is even legislated - REQUIRED. If you're a victim of it, well too-bad-so-sad, slut (and any unmarried women or any woman not under the control or ownership of a man or a male-controlled legal system or society is a SLUT - watch - that's now it works). And a married women who is raped is also a slut and will be deemed fully responsible for someone ELSE'S behavior. As if she had any control whatsoever over it. This is WHY I call them the American Taliban. They treat sexually abused/assaulted women (and children) the same as the Taliban does. Little difference. "Oh well they don't stone them to death!", you say. Well perhaps not literally -- but they do throw rocks at them in other ways -- so that argument is invalid. They're further abused by a legal system and society that largely sees men as poor little victims who just can't control themselves sexually. No one ever suggests that they grow up and take responsibility for their actions. Only women are expected to do that (and to take responsibility for the actions of the men too!)

Here's another part of the problem I have with these dipshit "pro-life/anti-abortion/anti-contraception" attitudes: If you REALLY want to stop people having "Sex for recreation, sex for mere pleasure" - then you had goddamn better be as hellbent on controlling the behavior of MEN TOO AND NOT JUST WOMEN. But notice we never hear a thing about that. We can't give free contraceptives to women but we can give free Viagra to men all over the place. No complaints about that from our Taliban rulers! How interesting. The double standard is appalling.

But it's all fucked-up anyway (pun intended) because trying to control the behavior of OTHER people (rather than yourself) is just NOT possible! You control your own damn behavior and let others worry about theirs. Because you CANNOT control theirs. That's why blaming rape victims for what someone ELSE (the rapist) did is utterly S T U P I D. And simultaneously, absolving men of any responsibility whatsoever for their own behavior is utterly STUPID.

And -- trying to control only HALF the people whom you want to stop doing a thing (ie: having "Sex for recreation, sex for mere pleasure" ) is even MORE stupid. Either everybody stops it - or nobody does - and that's because (duh) sex takes TWO people at least.

These dipshit attitudes from pro-life/anti-abortion/anti-contraception zealots are a goddamned STUPID sandwich with extra bullshit.

But the anti-abortionist/anti-birth control crowd says:

"We can't have these slutty women having sex without consequence!!!"

Well why the fuck NOT? MEN do it all the time! When are you going to start tying legislative strings to their testicles and penises? Eh?

Well of course you're NOT.

The bottom line is that "Gawd" designed HUMANS to have sex (If there is such an entity). They're designed to WANT to have it. And WOMEN. ARE. HUMAN. Well woops: since women are human therefore they're going to (want to) have sex. Married or not. Biology doesn't give a crap about your stupid legal institutions. It does what it's designed to do. And the lesser intelligent humans would do well to stop trying to prevent half the human race from BEING HUMAN and start living with the FACT that women have sex and much of the time they enjoy it and would like to sometimes do it without being punished for 9 months and 20 years, since our medical technology now allows this. And GOOD for the human race! Developing birth control/contraception was one of the wisest things it's ever done for itself.

As for trying to control only the penis-lacking population because we don't want them having sex for the pure enjoyment of it without consequence: Just STOP being STUPID. It's not going to happen because it can't. Women as humans -just like men - are designed to have sex (and to want to have it) and they have the capability now to have pleasurable sex when the hell they want without consequence and idiot evangelicals and RWingers are not going to change that. That toothpaste is just NOT going back into that tube.

Deal with the fact that it happens, that it is GOING TO HAPPEN and ensure women have proper healthcare for it. That INCLUDES contraceptives, abortion when needed, pre-and post-natal care. Treat women like the HUMANS they are and always will be.

If men got pregnant all these things would be readily available and FREE. If women started making laws controlling MEN'S bodies and what they can and cannot do with them, they'd raise HOLY HELL about how unfair that is. But we know how that goes, don't we? Pfft.

The double standards and lack of understanding / refusal to accept basic human nature (and that women are human) and basic human psychology and the penchant to to place all blame and responsibility for sex, sexual behavior and procreation on women is stupid and unworkable. It just IS and that is fact.

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Response to Triana (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:46 PM

73. Awesome post, Triana!

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Remember "The Handmaid's Tale"? The men had access to private clubs with "available" women - the uncooperative and "disobedient" ones, forced into prostitution by men for their very survival.

Women's lives were owned by men and strictly controlled in every minutest aspect, especially the "handmaids," and it was all about religiosity and procreation.

The double standard is mind-boggling.

This is exactly where the hyper-conservative, anti-choice mob would take us if they could. This is a fight for our very lives.



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Response to silverweb (Reply #73)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:04 PM

77. Women as breed cattle, property - not human beings deserving of human rights.

 

That's the vile hell they would have women existing in. I know. And...thanks.

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Response to Triana (Reply #77)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:02 PM

87. Back atcha!



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Response to silverweb (Reply #73)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:27 PM

131. So true. And vile.

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Response to Triana (Reply #16)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:05 PM

78. Way, way back, even before Christianity, Islam, or other such religions,

I'm sure it was purely practical and a defense for women. Fair or not, it was the woman who "got caught" in the aftermath of sex. No way around it and hard for a woman without a man to "protect" her and her children. Men got off scott free and no one could prove who the father was until very recently in human history. This could have given rise to a whole lot of social disorder, and so it was much easier to reign in the women (of course some "uncivilized" societies had different attitudes). Man-made morals and religions reinforced the tradition and women were made, more and more, to feel the responsibility, other than in the old rape/pillage situations.

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Response to Triana (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:54 PM

135. Isn't that why there is genital mutilation?

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Response to Triana (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:00 PM

144. Righteous!!

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:12 AM

149. Yes. Feminism is the radical idea that women are people. n/t

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 11:00 AM

151. ^^^^^^^.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:11 PM

17. She openly admits what we've all been saying.

 

I love it when rightwingers spill the beans after lying for so many years. Kinda like when Keven McCarthy bragged that the Benghazi hearings were all about crippling the Hillary campaign. Rightwingers have gotten so, so confident that they're finally getting sloppy -- which is where we catch them.

I've thought a lot about what sex is for human beings. Yes, of course pleasure -- but it's so much more. It's love, support, closeness, intimacy, caring, connection, tenderness, passion, sincerity, self-expression, devotion, commitment, admiration, joy, happiness, delight, celebration, and deep, deep sharing. And more. Sex can be sacred. (And, for some sick people, something entirely different.) It is part of being human. (And I do not by any means criticize those who have chosen celibacy. Being human is vast and varied and all life styles that do not harm others are valid. It's a personal choice.)

These people are not pro-life. They are anti-llife.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:13 PM

18. I want

my tax dollars used to promote sex for pleasure, even if I'm abstinent. Therefore, she needs to STFU.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:16 PM

19. Is anyone really surprised?

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Reply #19)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:21 PM

22. Not me...

I would express How I feel about it but I would probably get my message hidden by a jury.

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Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #22)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:32 PM

56. Not if I were on the jury.

 

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #56)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:56 PM

63. Me too!

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Response to Feeling the Bern (Reply #56)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:26 AM

124. you are too kind

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:18 PM

20. Hey, Monica. Try to lighten up a bit, would you?

Sheesh, if not for pleasure, then why have sex at all? Out of a sense of "duty"?

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Response to Aldo Leopold (Reply #20)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:14 PM

35. don't you understand?

women must have sex with their husbands because it is required of them - after all, Mike Huckabee says that women should "graciously submit" to their husband's leadership. Pleasure is not part of that picture, unless you get excited by graciously submitting (like all women should!). Men, on the other hand, must be pleased during sex. And, if a man ever cheats on his wife, it's for two reasons: (1) his wife is not taking care of his sexual needs at home, like Pat Robertson says, and (2) the other woman is obviously a brazen homewrecking slut. It's never the man's fault.

(please note, the above is obviously sarcasm, but if 100 people read my reply, there is a chance that 1 or 2 might miss that.)

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #35)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:13 PM

67. I think the Victorian approach was to tell young women about to be married

 

"Just lie back and think of England."

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:20 PM

21. I don't know

where this Monica Miller is from, but she might be from somewhere in the South.

Here in West Texas, we are taught from childhood that sex for pleasure only is nasty and wrong, and should only be done with someone you love and plan to spend the rest of your life with.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:25 PM

23. The mentality is: "You screwed; you're screwed."

Straight out of a A Handmaid's Tale. Life imitating art.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:28 PM

24. Sorry about your luck Monica Miller.

This female loves SEX for recreation and mere pleasure !!!!!

If no one is forcing you to have sex, what is your beef Monica ????

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:37 PM

26. ...

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Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:37 PM

27. It's OK with these nutcases if GUYS enjoy sex. Women, on the other hand....

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:38 PM

28. O - O - O Monica!

 

My significant other and I feel sorry for you. We chose NOT to have kids - but to have lots of orgasms instead. The best part is there's never been a hint of guilt to our pleasures.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:40 PM

29. Because sex should be work, dammit

at least for women. Ugh. These people. What joyless lives they must lead.

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Response to Matariki (Reply #29)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:53 PM

141. +10000

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:44 PM

30. We just time-traveled

back to 1950. Unbelievable.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #30)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:05 PM

46. Some of us remember the 1950s, but

 

I thought those ideas were long gone. Foolish me.

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Response to clamshells (Reply #46)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:21 PM

50. Same here

As we progress in many ways, there are bound to be times when we take a step or two backwards, but not half a century or more. Its hard to believe there are still people out there that believe this stuff.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:54 PM

31. I am so trying not to bring looks into this

but looking at a picture of Ms. Miller, it is really, really difficult. I swear, if you were looking for a perfect picture to illustrate the word "Puritan" or "Puritanism" Ms. Miller's photo would be spot on. I simply don't get why RWNJs have this intense urge to impose their morals and values on everyone. Jeez people, do it to your own family, but leave mine alone.

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Response to LibertyLover (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:49 PM

74. My thoughts exactly.

She doesn't look like she enjoys much of anything.

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Response to LibertyLover (Reply #31)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:49 PM

110. Not a fan of the Puritans at all BUT

 

to be fair, the Puritans were pretty unpuritanical regarding marital duties on both sides. Sexuality was very important, within the context of marriage.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:56 PM

33. Didn't Piper Laurie play her in a movie once?

*

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:59 PM

34. Whereas riding giant dildo shaped bombs until they explode in orgasmic pleasure on our enemies

should totally be funded by the government. See some people just get off on different stuff.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:24 PM

36. She's probably got a purse full of scarlet letters.

What a prune-faced, judgmental old bag. She's of the same school as Phyllis Schlafly, who once claimed that 'good girls don't get raped.' It sickens me how sexual 'purity' is so important to evangelicals and other religious conservatives. Catholics claim Jesus' mother is The Perpetual Virgin, who remained a virgin before, during and after Jesus' birth. Jesus' siblings were actually his cousins because cousins were often as close as brothers and sister back then. Joseph and Mary never had marital relations. Or so they believe. But, I digress. Sexuality, however, is anathema to Christianity. At least, female sexuality. Doubtless, had this old prude lived in Old Testament times, her greatest pleasure would have been stoning adulteresses.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:32 PM

37. Instead of sex for mere pleasure.....

I'd rather have sex for mind blowing pleasure.

I'd rather have sex, for about three hours (so nostalgic).

My wife and I had recreational sex once; we aren't allowed within 100 yards of the Matterhorn Ride anymore.





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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:41 PM

39. OMG! She's my mother!

My southern Baptist mother has this anti-sex for pleasure attitude! Her sexual hangups are unbelievable.

She hated me for waiting so long to "give" HER a grandbaby. "You've been married 10 years with nothing to show for it," she said with anger and disdain.


RELIGION!!





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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:51 PM

42. As a man, may I say to all the ladies that I as a young man

learned that being kind, gentle, loving and trying to make intercourse a more enjoyable experience for my wife than for myself resulted in pleasure for us beyond our dreams. I don't think that Monica needs a screwing -- she is likely getting more of that than she wants. She needs a lover. If she finds one, she will jump every opportunity that presents itself.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #42)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:43 PM

60. +1

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:54 PM

43. What about masturbation?

Billions of sperm wadded into tissues. Those men are baby killers and should be prosecuted. Where is THEIR scarlet letter? Where is the legislation to stop the killing?

This is an offensive comment on an offensive movement by those "small government for everyone but me" GOP Tea creeps. Disgusting.

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Response to Praek3 (Reply #43)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:50 PM

62. A Sperm Holocaust to be sure

Why aren't they getting worked up into a lather about it?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:56 PM

44. This is the best thread

I've read in ages! Thank you all for the chuckles, the snickers and the head nods. Every single one of you has a great counter argument to this appalling woman's views. Bless her heart.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:57 PM

45. An attitude right out of the 1950's.

Democrats and their supporting super-pacs ought to keep this on file as material for campaign advertising next year. Some grumpy prude speaking against "sex for pleasure" in this day and age is out of touch with reality. She should be widely exposed, shamed and connected with the Republican party.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:08 PM

47. Almira Gulch doesn't want anyone to have sex.

Again, Puritan's telling the rest of the world what they can do with their bodies.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:09 PM

48. wikipedia article

 

has no mention of a Mr. Monica Miller, why am I not surprised.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:09 PM

49. WTF?

She should be sent back to the Victorian era where she belongs.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:22 PM

51. I am guessing MIZ MILLER has never enjoyed "sex for recreation, sex for mere pleasure" otherwise

she would take a look in her mirror and say "WTF have I been doing all these years?"

Anyone who has ever enjoyed even a scant bit of pleasurable recreation would be singing that famous disco song....




The singer of that tune certainly had an interesting life that left nothing to the imagination, may she RIP.

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Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:30 PM

53. Monica does not look too happy to me!

Like perhaps she could benefit herself from some sex for mere pleasure?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:31 PM

55. I got 5 bucks, caaaash monies, that says

she never had a single orgasm in her life.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:37 PM

57. She looks like a good ole prohibition gal, doesn't she

I wonder when her movement will start advocating for female genital mutilation here in the states. After all, if it's no fun, why do it?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:40 PM

58. Did she HAVE to look like a prude?

 

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #58)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:16 PM

68. Yes.

 

Her expression alone could curdle a whole vat of milk.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #68)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:25 PM

70. She looks like the type that assigns seats for a kid's birthday party....

 

Can't let them have TOO much fun.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #70)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:26 PM

80. She radiates all the joy of

 

an impacted wisdom tooth.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #80)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:36 PM

81. I was gonna say she makes my dick hide behind my liver but didn't want it alerted.

 

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #68)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:55 PM

132. Ha!!

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #58)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:01 PM

127. yes, b/c if she looked normal, she would have sex more

and she'd like it

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:41 PM

59. Conservatives are funny when they get honest

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:44 PM

61. So ..................

she prefers sex not for recreation, but for work?

Not for 'mere pleasure' but for something else?

Sounds like she thinks sex should be promoted for work, money, or pain.

Baby Factories, anyone?

Nice delivery, time to crank out another! Next!!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:59 PM

64. So the Bedroom Police do exist!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:26 PM

71. Give the woman some slack. She's probably only had sex with conservatives.

Which would make anyone hate sex.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:55 PM

75. Betty Bowers at Landover Baptist!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:02 PM

76. "Condemnation without investigation is the highest form of ignorance.Ē

So said Albert Einstein.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:05 PM

79. I'll bet she plays with her poo.

Fuckin' crazy (not allowed to say the word I want).

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:39 PM

83. Anyone thats ever seen my posts knows what I think

 

Because I find it too ugly to discuss right now. I'm about to call the kids to dinner.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:40 PM

84. Bitch be crazy.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:55 PM

86. God designed us to have pleasure.

so to deny that would be to deny God. Maybe she's a right wing Atheist

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:29 PM

89. These people are sick.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:06 PM

91. Trivia: She is also the person who took the aborted fetus photos that anti-choice protesters use -nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:27 PM

92. OMFG!

This woman is fucking delusional. Either that, or she is fucking insane.

I feel for her. Certainly she should see a straight jacket and a rubber room before she sees any kind of a public exposure. (Except in one of those advocacy ads, like the heartbreak of psoriasis)

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:27 PM

93. Monica is probably a Bunny Ranch employee that **cked Lamar Odom into a coma

and now she's in cover-up mode.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:26 PM

96. I'm getting a Phyllis Schlafly vibe off her...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:33 PM

97. At First, I Thought Monica Miller Was A Nun,

Because the Citizens for a Pro-Life Society is a Roman Catholic anti-choice group. But she is married with three kids. Surprising she didn't have more. Her thoughts reflect those if the Catholic Church: every act of sex must carry a chance of pregnancy. So, what did she do to keep the number so low? She was born in 1953. And she does have a PH.D., though. Not sure what to make of that. But her goal is clearly to impose her own religious beliefs on others. She probably believes everything the church tells her, Adam and Eve, the fig leafs, garden of Eden, and childbearing as "God's" punishment for Eve for her sin of tempting Adam, and of course, no sex just for pleasure.

She's very old fashioned. Her views were widely shared in 19th, and even early to mid-twentieth century. She never used her education to escape the religious cell she was confined to as a child. How sad! And now she seeks to imprison the minds of other women, so she won't feel alone. How typical! She obviously smart. What a waste that she doesn't use it to liberate other women instead of defending their subjugation by the very institution she serves.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:43 PM

98. apparantly

she's never had a bj. Is that too blatant?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:05 PM

101. This has been said before:

"How I lost faith in the pro-life movement": http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/10/how-i-lost-faith-in-the-pro-life-movement.html (one of the best reads you'll ever see on the subject).

I was a dupe. Iím ready to admit it now.

The reality is that so-called pro-life movement is not about saving babies. Itís about regulating sex. Thatís why they oppose birth control. Thatís why they want to ban abortion even though doing so will simply drive women to have dangerous back alley abortions. Thatís why they want to penalize women who take public assistance and then dare to have sex, leaving an exemption for those who become pregnant from rape. Itís not about babies. If it were about babies, they would be making access to birth control widespread and free and creating a comprehensive social safety net so that no woman finds herself with a pregnancy she canít afford. They would be raising money for research on why half of all zygotes fail to implant and working to prevent miscarriages. Itís not about babies. Itís about controlling women. Itís about making sure they have consequences for having unapproved sex.

But I am very sure that there are other dupes out there. If youíre sitting there reading this thinking ďbut I really am in it to save unborn babies,Ē I am sure youíre not alone. After all, I was one of you.

If you are one who has been a part of the pro-life movement because you really do believe in ďsaving unborn babies,Ē itís time to cut your ties with the movement. You may be an honest and kind-hearted person, but youíve been had. Youíve been taken in. Itís time to let go. Itís time to support Obamacareís birth control mandate, itís time to call off opposition to birth control, and itís time to get behind progressive programs that help provide for poor women and their children. Itís time to make your actions consistent with your motives. While I am myself no longer morally opposed to abortion, I and others like me share your desire to decrease the number of unplanned pregnancies and to ensure that every woman can afford the option of keeping her pregnancy.
- See more at: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/2012/10/how-i-lost-faith-in-the-pro-life-movement.html#sthash.H12azocN.dpuf

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:08 PM

102. From the look on her face, sex and pleasure have never gone together.

 

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #102)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:23 PM

111. Yeah I was thinking the same exact thing

her parents probably beat it out of her that sex was horrible except for procreation only. And having never enjoyed sex why should anyone else?

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #112)

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:05 AM

148. ----

Kindly keep your ugly fantasies to yourself -- You've already said too much.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #148)

Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:01 PM

157. Not my fantasies at all. Nightmares that happened to people I cared about.

 

Last edited Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:30 AM - Edit history (1)

I meant to attack abusers, not to express anything like you are implying. But I'll delete.

please check your pm's.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:17 PM

104. Sex for pleasure? Good luck with stopping that!!!

I can't believe anyone was stupid enough to say that!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 09:31 PM

105. Monica! Your straight jacket and rubber room are waiting.

These nice people in white coats are your friends. Please go with them willingly.

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Response to longship (Reply #105)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:38 PM

113. That SO sounds like a fetish scenario...

 

...er, from what I've heard from a friend of a friend of a guy on the bus...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 10:39 PM

109. You know we can hear you, right?

 

eeeewwwwwww what a twisted person.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 06:50 AM

114. Hey you, Whitehouse, Ha ha charade you are.



You house proud town mouse,
Ha ha charade you are
You're trying to keep our feelings off the street.
You're nearly a real treat,
All tight lips and cold feet
And do you feel abused?
.....! .....! .....! .....!
You gotta stem the evil tide,
And keep it all on the inside.
Mary you're nearly a treat,
Mary you're nearly a treat
But you're really a cry.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 07:04 AM

116. OMG! She's the very embodiment of that character Lily Tomlin made so famous on Laugh-in!

Over 45 years ago!!

When Lily would dress up all prim and proper and then drink tea from a tea cup, complete with saucer, of course.
And then she would always make the remark "Oh, how tacky!" about another comment made at the party the Laugh-in crew was having on their set.

My gawd, what's this world coming to, sex for mere pleasure!?!
I suppose this is going to bring an end to all political conventions, huh?



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:10 AM

118. Pretty close to what I was taught

In church I was taught, sex outside of marriage was bad, masturbation was always bad, sex for pleasure while married was generally accepted though I feel like some questioned whether that was ok too. My memory on that is vague.

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:45 AM

119. What's next, Monica? Genital mutilation? /nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:09 AM

121. Wow, a GOD a real GOD in the flesh................................

who thinks they know what is best for all women another Phyllis Schlafly, she can tell woman are having "sex for mere pleasure"

soothsayer

noun sooth∑say∑er \-ˌsā-ər, -ˌser\

: someone who makes predictions about what is going to happen in the future



Honk--------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:09 AM

123. What a horrible woman!

I cannot say anything else about this person than that. She is despicable.


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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Sat Oct 17, 2015, 01:01 PM

129. I am shocked SHOCKED to find gambling going on here

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 02:06 PM

130. "Twitchy", Monica's husband, never got a nooner. /nt

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 03:53 PM

134. So, she would not put "casual sex"

on her OKC profile, I guess?

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:49 PM

138. What.. year is this? WTH!

 

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 08:50 PM

139. Is it just the antiquated hairdo,

Or does she look a bit like Margaret Sanger?

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Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:06 PM

147. All missionary position all the time for Monica.

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 11:21 AM

152. Almost hard to believe this is real,

but it is real. This is something Dana Carvey's Church Lady would come up with.

For pleasure? For nothing else but MERE PLEASURE!? Oh no, THAT is most definitely not allowed. That is way, way, out of bounds, and should only be attempted when supervised and absolutely necessary with both parties blindfolded, silent, and holding their hands above their heads. Appropriate penance, of course, would begin immediately afterward.

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 12:29 PM

153. Ms. Miller needs to be schooled.

So if I am understanding this correctly, women are simply toys for men, to be played with at their discretion. Obviously Monica Miller has not done very much research about what happens when women are allowed to be treated as equal members of society. It kind of blows her case out of the water. There are areas of this world in which both men and women are treated as complete equals, despite incredible impoverished conditions. They are educated together, they share decisions and they the share the same types of work. Because of this empowerment, not only are both the men and women happier, they enjoy SMALLER family sizes due to women being allowed to have empowerment over HER body. Women in those societies are seen as people, and not baby factories.

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 04:36 PM

154. And the problem with sex for pleasure is............?

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 06:36 PM

155. Is it just me ......

 

Or does she, like seriously, need to get laid for fucks sake? Admittedly I'm no expert, but in my experience fucking is pretty fucking fun. So much so, I do as much of it as I can. With my wife, with our friends, watching my wife with our friends.......... The puritan, shame filled version of the joyous activity that we call sex is offensive. Sex is allowed. I can't help you if you're afraid to fuck and cum, but keep your insecure, neurotic proclivities to yourself. Sexual pleasure and the act of seeking it out is part of the process that keeps the species going. If getting your ass pounded till you're wet and quivering doesn't sound like a great idea and rather you liken it to the necessary, if un-enjoyable task of unclogging a toilet then you are an enormously sad person.

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Sun Oct 18, 2015, 06:57 PM

156. Oh please

get her mug off the front page. She makes me sick.

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Mon Oct 19, 2015, 12:06 AM

159. I hate seeing people try to foist off Puritanical prudery on

the rest of us. We've got to stop being so hung up about sex, and we've got to stop being so misogynistic in our policy choices. Planned Parenthood is fine. They help thousands of people.

Leave them alone.

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Mon Oct 19, 2015, 05:46 AM

160. And a red sash for you, my dear

Big Brother is proud of you.

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Mon Oct 19, 2015, 11:38 PM

162. SOURCE!

Link to source <https://avemariaradio.net/audio_archive/catholic-connection-october-6-2015-hour-2/ >
Relevant audio starts at 32:05. The quote is taken (verbatim) from an interview of Monica Miller on "Catholic Connection," a program of Ave Maria Radio. In the interview, Miller and the host discuss the purpose and scope of the organized Planned Parenthood Protests.

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