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Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:06 PM

5 Ways America Is Already Socialist



Published on Aug 6, 2015


Socialism, turns out the dirtiest word in U.S. politics is as American as apple pie. From the U.S. labor movement to the New Deal to corporate subsidies, America relies on a healthy dose of socialism.

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Response to mother earth (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:24 PM

1. If only you could force everyone to see this.

 

It would have to soften the image of socialism as equal to communism, or even Naziism (remember they were the National SOCIALISTS!).

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 05:51 PM

2. I say we remind the masses about how many good democratic socialists there are, and if you believe

in the Constitution & all this country was founded upon, you believe in the basic premises of democratic socialism.
Our country was founded on the very same principles, to safeguard our gov't to be representative of WE THE PEOPLE.

TPTB don't want us to remember that, and they certainly don't want us to remember it during this election.

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Response to mother earth (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:27 PM

5. That would be great too. This video hits on a few of them.

 

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:10 PM

3. Even if you could force everyone to see this; even if you explain it...

 

You can't understand it for them. For many, "deaf ears" summarizes it.

They can persist with "Hitler was a socialist." I only stifled that, when I challenged them to edit the post on types of socialism in wiki by adding National Socialism.

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Response to immoderate (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:26 PM

4. I agree about the kind of people you refer to

 

But there are some people that are well-meaning but ignorant. Quite a few people mix up socialism with communism. It would be nice to be able to educate them.

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Response to Elmer S. E. Dump (Reply #4)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:52 PM

8. There are those people too, but...

 

It's always a good idea, I think, when discussing communism or socialism to find out what people think they mean.

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Response to immoderate (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:15 PM

9. There's never going to be a time when we can completely stamp out ignorance. It exists & for some

it is absolutely willful. EVERYTHING is a choice, learning & progress over ignorance & hate is no different.

All we can do is take advantage of teaching moments and fight disinfo, the rest is up to the individual. Sometimes the info doesn't hit home until it becomes personal, THAT is out of our control, but it doesn't mean we stop doing what we do.

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Response to mother earth (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 06:41 PM

6. Boo-yah! K&R (N/T)

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Response to mother earth (Original post)

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 08:41 PM

7. "Socialism is as American as apple pie. Bought at a Walmart. With food stamps."



Some good info, but I hate when they include non-discretionary taxes in with discretionary. 60% or more of our discretionary taxes goes to WAR.

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Response to valerief (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:18 PM

10. One lesson at a time, valerief. Don't shoot the messenger or the message, it is of great

significance during this time of oligarchy. You are absolutely right about the majority of our country's budget going toward the war machine, that's a lesson in itself...we can't include everything in a 3 min. video, now can we? One step at a time, if it helps reach one person we are the better for it.

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Response to mother earth (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:26 PM

11. I agree it was a good message. A young person mentioning labor history instead

of just listing words we can't say is so refreshing and thoughtful.

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Response to valerief (Reply #11)

Tue Aug 11, 2015, 01:49 PM

12. Some opinions are refreshing & thoughtful too, others, not so much. nt

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