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[EarlG]

Dirty-Bomb Politics

Vile Ann Coulter Smears a War Hero

Republicans Claim Decorated Iraq Veteran Tammy Duckworth Isn’t a Real Hero

Self-Proclaimed Champion of Veterans Jeb Bush, Supported Switfboating John Kerry

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[samsingh]

1. repugs are hypocrits and crybabies

[billhicks76]

45. Epitome Of Scum Was Saxby

His people also stole that election with hacked electronic voting machines of which the state 100% relied on. Bush/Cheney were in charge on 911. Cleland said the committee was a cover up and a fraud. Too many corporate democrats cowered and didn't confront the truth and that is why we got Bush in 2004. Blame them too.

[samsingh]

48. you are so right.

[SoapBox]

2. And why the fuck Americans let them get away with it is beyond me.

[erronis]

8. Because most americans get their thoughts and emotions from the M$M

And the M$M is owned by the same class of oligarchs that control the uglicans.

It's a real pity that all that american grey matter lies up there, rotting away.

[Boomerproud]

37. No excuses for laziness when there is so much at stake.

I am outraged enough for 10 people when it comes to the way Democrats who served are treated, by the Pubs and the lapdog media.

[TygrBright]

3. Thank you, EarlG. This one is really needed/useful. May it go viral. n/t

[wordpix]

20. +1000

[Motown_Johnny]

4. this should be made into billboards in all swing states n/t

[niyad]

5. disgusted k and r

one du'er made a collection of the 'purple heart/bandage" images a few days ago. would be a useful addition here.

[WillyT]

6. K & R !!!

[SunSeeker]

7. Those pictures of Cleland and Duckworth...

No words...

[groundloop]

9. As a Georgian the smearing of Max Cleland really hit a raw nerve

Saxby Chambliss is a totally worthless piece of manure.

[GoCubsGo]

19. Can't get more egregious than what they did to him.

I get my TV from Georgia, so I saw the smear commercials. Absolutely sickening. I can't believe they gave Suxby a first term, let alone a second. To liken that dirtbag to manure is an insult to manure, which is actually a good, useful substance.

[3catwoman3]

25. There are not enough negative...

...adjectives to describe how utterly reprehensible that smear campaign was. And that voters fell for it was beyond comprehension then, and still is.

[olegramps]

30. You mean Maxi Shameless? The scumbag of the South.

[Fred Sanders]

10. The only reason this, and much more, is not causing Americans to abandon the GOP in masses is mass media damage control.

Amnesia is a reliable and potent ally for the hypocrites and their enablers who manipulate the many, many Americans without an ounce of critical thinking skills and memory.

[kairos12]

11. Democratic veterans are less patriotic than Rethug chicken hawks. That's their reality.

[groundloop]

16. Yep.... Cheney, Nugent, Limbaugh, Bush, Romney etc. are prime examples

They all found ways to keep from serving (well, OK, W. protected the skies over Houston during the Vietnam War), yet they're all too willing to send the sons and daughters of 'lesser' Americans than themselves into harms way.

[lolly]

31. I think it might even be worse than that

In their way of thinking,

Republican= Pro-military, Patriotic, Supports the Troops

Democratic= Hates the military, spits on troops

Therefore a veteran who is a Democrat is doubly traitorous, turning against his/her own people.

Remember, these are people who deal with easy categories and oppositions, not with any attention to actual records, facts, or actions.

[Hekate]

12. KnR

[Uncle Joe]

13. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, EarlG.

[WIProgressive88]

14. K&R!

[JoeLaValle]

15. What Made Mc Cain a Hero?

I asked this on a local ultra right message board and even on Facebook, and so far no one has given an answer.

What did Mc Cain actually do that made him a Hero?

I honestly can not ever remembering anything hat is worth being called a hero him doing.

[groundloop]

17. I'd say surviving 5 years in the Hanoi Hilton is up there

[Curmudgeoness]

21. I am not a fan of McCain, but here are some reasons

that he is a war hero.

-He was shot down on his 22 mission, meaning he had succeeded 21 times prior to that.
-He survived over five years as a POW who had been tortured.
-He was offered release and refused to go unless the other prisoners were released as well. He did not think that his rank should give him special treatment.

Whether these actions are heroic or not is in the eyes of the beholder, although I will admit that I would have taken the offer to be released without blinking an eye. To stay is something more than I could see me doing, so maybe that is heroic.

[Blue_Adept]

23. Jury Results

On Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:38 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

What Made Mc Cain a Hero?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=280178

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Oh, look what oozed in. I think this one qualifies for TOS Article One: "Don't be a wingnut."

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Jul 20, 2015, 02:44 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Does not rise to HIDE level.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Everyone has a different view of what a hero is. A lot of people view that the word is applied far too loosely and easily these days. It's a worthwhile conversation to have.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Huh?
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alert may be correct. This person may be a Republican trying to act stupid on DU in order to somehow influence? But the post in itself is just pointless and not offensive. The person posting should be watched.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[red dog 1]

27. I like Juror # 7's explanation

[red dog 1]

24. What made you ask that question?

Are you a supporter of Donald Trump?

Are you a Republican?

Are you aware of the fact that Democratic Underground is for Democrats, not Republicans?

[dougolat]

28. Nixon's pardon

It shielded him and the other POWs from pending prosecution for aiding the enemy. In McCain's case there was something about 32 propaganda tapes, some of which were broadcast to Americans in Viet Nam.

The Pentagon brass thought him a hero when he shielded them from a lot of work and embarrassment in '92 in the Senate Select Committee on MIA-POW Affairs hearings by personally blocking the bill passed in the House, for access to information on Korean war and Viet Nam War MIA-POWs. (who had officially been considered dead after one year, and denying evidence to the contrary)(see the book "Perfidy - the Government cabal that knowingly abandoned our prisoners of war" by Sgt. Major John Holland and father Patric Bascio) (or the other book "An Enormous Crime - the difinitive account of American POWs abandoned in Southeast Asia" by US Rep. Bill Hendon and Elizabeth Stewart)

[Scarsdale]

35. Military records

Why are McCain's military and medical records sealed? What is he hiding in there? He could prove Trump wrong, if there is proof of his heroism. His father and grandfather were high ranking officers in the navy, and protected him. Read the article written by Matt Taibi from Rolling Stone. All the truth about McCain exposed. He should have been made to pay for the 5 military jets he destroyed, some by showing off. A man without his connections would have been court martialled long before he was captrued.

[brett_jv]

47. None of that gives Trump the right to talk that shit he did ...

Both were rich enough to get out of service, but McCain did NOT, he fucking showed up ... Trump instead took deferments ... and in THIS context ... that's really all that matters.

[olegramps]

29. Sounds like you are a Trump supporter.

[Curmudgeoness]

18. So much truth. nt

[d_legendary1]

22. If the GOP don't care about Veterans in general

why would they give a rats ass about Democratic Veterans serving in Congress?

[red dog 1]

26. K&R...Thanks for posting, EarlG

This needs to go viral.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

32. I don't think what Trump said about McCain was anywhere near as bad as what reshits said about Kerry

Last edited Mon Jul 20, 2015, 07:33 PM - Edit history (2)

I listened twice to what Trump said to his interviewer Frank Luntz. i never heard The Rump say McCain wasn't a war hero. He said several times that he WAS a war hero, but that he qualified his war heroism by saying he didn't like war heroes who let themselves get captured, which is a pretty looney tunes thing to say, but not nearly as insulting and dismissive as what the shitboaters for feces said about Kerry. I'm no fan of Trump's (I mock him at every opportunity) but this statement about McCain was small potatoes next to what Kerry was put through day after day in paid ads calling him un American and a traitor.

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I think the corporate conservative newsrooms are DEEEEELIGHTED with Trump's statement and while it's not clear he ever said what they are spinning that he said, owing an apology to the entire military, the Wolf Blitzers of the world are desperately hoping he has to drop out. The corporate conservative media know that the RePigs will be fucked over, under, sideways, down, backwards, forward, square, and round if Donald Trump gets anywhere near that debate stage and starts insulting every constituency that makes up America.

And I remember how the GOP asshole party dismissed Wesley Clark's heroism when he ran for the Democratic nomination for President in 2004 (I was a strong supporter and contributor). Wesley Clark was wounded in Vietnam like Kerry and a lieutenant and platoon leader and took four bullets to his body. Like Kerry, Wesley Clark received the Silver Star for saving his platoon when under fire. Like Kerry, Clark was mercilessly mocked and criticized by the armchair warriors in the Republican Party. They called him "The Perfumed Prince" as if he were too much of a sissy to have possibly won a Silver Star in jungle combat. They called him mentally incompetent for getting surrounded by the Viet Cong. Rush Limbaugh called him Ashley Wilkes, the somewhat effete and over-refined southern gentleman officer from Gone With The Wind.

[MyOwnPeace]

34. Yep!

It drives me nuts when the "selectively" get their "citizen" panties in an uproar - as if only repugs are worthy of "honor" and others are, well, whatever name they opt to call them!

[ericson00]

33. they must think we all have amnesia

because they appear almost as off-guard when confronted about the swift boat thing than by Trump himself

[barbtries]

36. they're hypocrites.

disgusting, hateful hypocrites.

[bucolic_frolic]

38. Politics Isn't Logical

No matter how 100% correct Democrats are on this issue

nothing accomplished unless it is publicized and delivers

incremental Democratic % votes at the voting booth.

That is the challenge.

Posting it here to the choir doesn't often change a lot.

[Tanuki]

39. And don't forget when Mean Jean Schmidt directed her infamous "Cowards cut and run"

smear against decorated was hero Rep. Jack Murtha!
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/20/us/mean-jean-goes-to-washington-and-invites-a-firestorm.html?_r=0

[Babel_17]

40. When I hear a Republican refer to our service people as "warriors" ...

I get the sense that "martyrs" is implied. And you only have martyrs when the cause is just. And if the cause is just then that omelet is going to need some eggs getting broken. And somehow the cheerleaders for war are actually part of a Holy Order.

Our military are professional service people. They aren't warriors for some neocons damn crusade.

[onecaliberal]

41. Republiscum are chickenshit, period.

Their voters are stupid.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

42. Where was the outrage when it was my former beloved senator, Max Cleland?

I agree wholeheartedly. Where was outrage when it as Al Gore? When it was John F. Kerry?

When it was John Murtha?

When it was Tammy Duckworth?

When it was Democrats? Where was the outrage?????

[PatrickforO]

43. The Republican mentality...

Only thing is, what if 'the Donald' got to spend a few years in a bamboo cage with a couple inches of water in the floor? Then maybe he wouldn't say such stupid things about people this actually happened to.

[Cha]

44. Great! This has a lot of Recs.. thanks EarlG!

[brett_jv]

46. EXCELLENT commentary along these lines from StoneKettle Station ...

Written by a comrade-in-arms from teh Vietnam era, no less. Very worth a read ...

http://www.stonekettle.com/2015/07/the-republican-tell-tale-heart.html