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Wed May 9, 2012, 11:03 AM

Pic Of The Moment: Dear North Carolina



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Reply Pic Of The Moment: Dear North Carolina (Original post)
EarlG May 2012 OP
sinkingfeeling May 2012 #1
NorthCarolina May 2012 #2
Hestia May 2012 #4
Voice for Peace May 2012 #16
dr.strangelove May 2012 #5
LynneSin May 2012 #3
jwirr May 2012 #6
suston96 May 2012 #7
Sarcasticus May 2012 #8
Auggie May 2012 #10
Sarcasticus May 2012 #12
Auggie May 2012 #15
Smilo May 2012 #13
HughBeaumont May 2012 #19
pinto May 2012 #9
one_voice May 2012 #11
ZombieHorde May 2012 #14
Tunkamerica May 2012 #17
dougolat May 2012 #18
Ineeda May 2012 #20
ncgrits May 2012 #21
Tunkamerica May 2012 #22

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 11:06 AM

1. And they will live to see the day when the SCOTUS tells them

to take it out just like they did in Loving v. Virginia!

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #1)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:22 PM

2. The SCOTUS is pretty conservative, I'm not quite

 

as confident as you that they would in fact strike any anti-gay laws down.

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #2)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:40 PM

4. Which has me scratching my head -

how can any state deny a group of people access to the/their constitution? How can this be legal on any plane, and why hasn't anyone sued against it? A group of people can't be picked up by anyone else, so why/how do laws like this go into effect? Constitution is what the gov't can't do to us and is not to be used as a bully pulpit against anyone (as natural born citizens we are born with rights, the gov't doesn't give them to us).

Isn't this just posturing and pandering until someone has the guts to actually take this to the SCOTUS? It still flabbergasts me how the teabaggers can get 'laws' like this on the ballot in the first place. WTF are these Attorney Generals?

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Response to Hestia (Reply #4)

Wed May 9, 2012, 07:26 PM

16. +1

 

"like"

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Response to NorthCarolina (Reply #2)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:43 PM

5. Its a marathon, not a sprint

Scalia is 76 and Kennedy is 75. There is a future in sight without these two on the court. Obama NEEDS to win and hopefully at least one of these two will leave the Court during his second term. Ginsberg will possibly not last on the bench for another term either. The next 12 years should see those three and Breyer leave the bench. If we have the senate and white house, we could easily overturn these insane hateful actions. Its why we simply HAVE to win.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:35 PM

3. What kills me is they are taking away rights that some companies willingly offer

My company has offered 'domestic partnership' benefits long before the state offered civil rights to same sex couples. The NC law now says that my company cannot cover same sex couples and honestly, I think that is just shit.

I also weep for the hospital visitation rights. If these teabagging assholes want the government 'minding their own business' then what right does the government have with telling someone who they can and cannot have visit them in the hospital? I know love is an powerful healing tool - why should a person be stuck with family members where there could be bad blood when instead they could have a loving partner there by their side.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 12:43 PM

6. And I am thankful for that.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:27 PM

7. Our natural rights are not subject to majority rule......

The USSC knows this but it will do nothing about it as it sees state after state amending state constitutions to deprive a selected group of their citizens of their natural right to pursue their individual happiness.

The Bill of Rights in the US Constitution is incomplete and what is enumerated therein is vague and open to conjecture and misapplication.

It will take a USSC with courage and intended justice to strike down all those state constitutional prohibitions against the individual right to pursue and achieve goals of happiness enjoyed by all citizens.

Where did I get that "Pursuit of Happiness"? Try the US Declaration of Independence. It comes after "Life and Liberty."

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:35 PM

8. Tom Toles: Anti-Gay Marriage crowd's days are numbered. Literally!

 



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Response to Sarcasticus (Reply #8)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:43 PM

10. +1,000,000

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Response to Auggie (Reply #10)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:55 PM

12. Thanks

 

Toles is great. And your has emboldened me to make it a thread in General. (Only 20 posts tho: It might get locked.)

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Response to Sarcasticus (Reply #12)

Wed May 9, 2012, 05:55 PM

15. It's a sad fact of human nature that it takes so long

for bigoted opinion to change. Toles nailed it. As Steve Jobs said, "Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life’s change agent."

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Response to Sarcasticus (Reply #8)

Wed May 9, 2012, 02:03 PM

13. And my son and his friends -

(about 18 yrs) - are all saying - is it wrong that people loving each other are wanting to get married - NO - they all say - there is absolutely nothing wrong with this - get over it people.

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Response to Sarcasticus (Reply #8)

Thu May 10, 2012, 04:46 AM

19. They may be physically dying off, but their poisonous mindset isn't.

That's the problem.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:36 PM

9. Yep.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 01:49 PM

11. Yep. And that's a good thing!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Wed May 9, 2012, 04:58 PM

14. The sign rocks. Liberals rock. We are the future. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Thu May 10, 2012, 01:33 AM

17. Wow. I'm so glad I spent time and effort fighting this in NC...

Just to be lumped in with people who voted for it.

Why don't you make a graphic that thanks the people who worked so hard and are so very disappointed and who actually live here and are going to suffer the consequences? Does it make you feel somehow more tolerant to do this instead? Or do you actually care?

I'm sure Buncombe (Asheville), Chatham, Dare (Outer Banks), Durham (Durham), Mecklenburg (Charlotte), Orange (Chapel Hill), Wake (Raleigh) and Watauga (Boone) counties and all the hundreds of thousands of people who voted against it also enjoy being counted as one homophobic person.

I'm sure the polls that show that the majority of NC'ers were against a constitutional amendment (but unfortunately not likely voters) were wrong. I'm also sure that the 10% of people polled who thought voting for the amendment meant voting for marriage equality were lying to the pollsters.

It passed by 500,000 votes. There are over 9.5 million people in NC.

It is sad. We are very disappointed. But, this lame excuse for a "graphic" minimizes all the work that some very good people did trying to fight this thing which came from some very well-funded and organized groups outside our state.

First time I've wanted an unrec button in a long time.

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Response to Tunkamerica (Reply #17)

Thu May 10, 2012, 03:47 AM

18. You're in good company ...

..think of Californians after the Prop 8 loss, South Dakotans and Kansans after every women-enslavement issue, or for that matter, ALL of us getting branded blood-thirsty maniacs after the 2004 national election.
Thank you for your efforts, being on the right side is all we get sometimes.

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Response to dougolat (Reply #18)

Thu May 10, 2012, 06:30 AM

20. Same with all us 'knuckle-dragging Floridians'

who fight the imbeciles every damn day. Just think about the walls we have to scale: pRick Scott, Rubio, and Jebbie-boy waiting in the wings -- just to name a few.

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Response to Tunkamerica (Reply #17)

Thu May 10, 2012, 08:12 AM

21. Thank you Tunkamerica!

It's bad enough that we worked and worked and it still passed, but then fellow (and apparently far-superior) Democrats pile on. I did not vote for Amendment One. In fact I don't know anybody who did. So well done us! And we'll keep fighting the good fight.

ncgrits
Hillsborough, NC

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Response to ncgrits (Reply #21)

Thu May 24, 2012, 05:39 AM

22. I logged off of the site for 2 weeks because of this and was dreading

coming back for fear of negative responses but I had 3 positives and no negatives. Apparently that comment killed the thread.

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