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Would White German Pilot Crashing Plane Be 'Terrorism' if He Were Muslim? (Original Post) circlethesquare Mar 2015 OP
I guess it would depend if they found anything claiming yeoman6987 Mar 2015 #1
if I was a "loving" god this sort of thing would never happen. oh well nt msongs Mar 2015 #2
I think terrorism would be assumed until proven otherwise The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #3
I'd give even odds that at least one asshole at Fox went there early in the event timeline. GoneFishin Mar 2015 #16
Yes, because in the eyes of republics all Muslims are terrorists onecaliberal Mar 2015 #4
A very good question nichomachus Mar 2015 #5
Says it all about media white privilege....as does the Indiana Hate law signing ceremony picture. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #8
If there was even a Koran in his apartment it would be called terrorism by those so inclined. gordianot Mar 2015 #6
If there was a copy of a Hannity or Coulter book it would be ignored. louis-t Mar 2015 #11
EgyptAir Flight 990 . . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #7
The pilot believed to have caused that accident The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2015 #9
Hence, my comment . . . Journeyman Mar 2015 #10
Same answer as the question "Would a cop slam a white guy down and put a choke hold on him?" No. libdem4life Mar 2015 #12
He was a guy with a girlfriend Liberalagogo Mar 2015 #13
"Would"? Does the head of a western religion defecate in arboreal splender? Not a single doubt. marble falls Mar 2015 #14
If he did it IN THE NAME OF ISLAM, then yes. Did you just want to stir the pot? WinkyDink Mar 2015 #15
Probably not zentrum Apr 2015 #17
I never heard the argument that Bin Laden was "depressed" zebonaut Apr 2015 #18
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. I guess it would depend if they found anything claiming
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:49 PM
Mar 2015

He was doing it as a terrorist act. Otherwise probably same reaction.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
3. I think terrorism would be assumed until proven otherwise
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 03:55 PM
Mar 2015

if the pilot had been a Muslim named Muhammed rather than a Lutheran named Andreas. In fact, I bet the assholes at Faux News are a little disappointed that he was just a German guy with mental health problems instead of a Muslim bent on religiously-motivated chaos and destruction.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
16. I'd give even odds that at least one asshole at Fox went there early in the event timeline.
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 09:15 PM
Mar 2015

You know if he had a dark tan or a beard they would still be trying shove that square peg into the round hole.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,589 posts)
9. The pilot believed to have caused that accident
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 04:16 PM
Mar 2015

was a Muslim (as are most Egyptians), but there was never any evidence suggesting his actions were motivated in any way by his religion, and he was not known to have strong religious convictions. However, he had been passed up for promotion to Captain and was in trouble with his employer:

Investigators learned from another pilot that Al-Batouti was supposedly reprimanded for repeated inappropriate behaviour with female guests at the Hotel Pennsylvania, a New York City hotel often used by EgyptAir crews. Hatem Roushdy, the EgyptAir official said to be responsible for the alleged reprimand, was a passenger on Flight 990. Investigators confirmed that shortly before the flight, Roushdy revoked Al-Batouti's privilege of flying to the United States and informed him that Flight 990 would be his last on the route.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gameel_Al-Batouti

But just because he was a Muslim, it was initially assumed by many that this was an act of religiously-motivated terrorism.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. Probably not
Wed Apr 1, 2015, 12:18 AM
Apr 2015

Because he had no manifesto, no political reason for what he did. He didn't seem to be making a point at all.

It was narcissistic, not a political act.

At least based on the info we have so far. Now, if he did it as an act against Lufthansa ---maybe a case could be made. But you're point is well taken--they still won't call him a "terrorist".

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