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this is criminal I knew about civil forfeiture but we the people are responsible for this we elect people who write these laws
John Oliver on civil forfeiture
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)Last edited Sat Jan 31, 2015, 11:39 AM - Edit history (1)
could come in our lifetime...?
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2015/01/holder_puts_the_breaks_on_civil_forfeiture_editori.html
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)We need to go further, of course
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)with this action. I would prefer that much more be done about it... last year!
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Is there a timing to this sort of thing that guarantees if you do something about unlawful law enforcement this much later that later on you can say that you tried to do something about unlawful law enforcement when in fact, it had no chance in hell?
I mean, just exactly how much do every day citizens have to put up with before actions have positive outcomes?
We've had "drug asset seizure funds" abused locally for quite some time where I live.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)for which I don't have an easily condensed answer.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)2naSalit
(86,536 posts)I love your kitty GIFs!!! I miss having kitties in my world.
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)Thanks.
lexington filly
(239 posts)blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)See http://constitutioncenter.org/constitution/full-text ; search on "Amendment V".
drynberg
(1,648 posts)freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)Probably the government will argue that the citizen's opportunity to sue is due process. But that's not realistic; most people (as the video said) can't afford to sue. Someone will have to argue convincingly that that means there really is no due process.
father founding
(619 posts)What doesn't nowadays.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)This asset forfeiture is only a symptom.
All this rampant criminality appears to have started with the illegal presidential election in 2,000.
Since then justice in the United States has all but disappeared. No one challenged 911an obvious false flag operation. No one challenged an administration that intentionally falsified intelligence to justify a brutal, costly, counterproductive war. Those that profited from said war were not even looked upon with suspicion.
Huge financial institutions were rewarded after they destroyed the world economy. And these huge financial institutions are even planning to pull off the very same heist again and no one in the "News" media so much as bats an eye.
It's now possible for a drug dealer to serve time in a forfeiture-financed prison after being arrested by agents driving a forfeiture-provided automobile while working in a forfeiture-funded sting operation.
Reagan attorney general Richard Thornburgh in 1989.
It was ramped up by the Reagan-Bush administrations under the pretense of the war on drugs, and "law and order" campaigns rarely involve "tying the hands of police" to prevent abuses.
Remember that there's very little Shrub did that didn't have a launching point back under Poppy and/or Saint Ronald.
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)2naSalit
(86,536 posts)From NPR today...
http://www.npr.org/2015/01/31/382936124/dea-using-license-plate-readers-to-spy-on-drivers
Apparently a system that began several years back designed to assist in civil forfeiture.