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Will Obama's Bombs Stop Beheadings? Russell Brand The Trews (Original Post) yuiyoshida Sep 2014 OP
What better way to condemn brutality than with brutality?! Brilliant!! RufusTFirefly Sep 2014 #1
Did the bombing allow the group on the mountain top to escape their entrapment? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #2
If you know the answers why are you afraid to make statements? nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #4
Are you following this thread? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #5
Yes but apparently you're not if you have to ask questions like, "Did the bombing allow the group rhett o rick Sep 2014 #10
You think I am not following this thread? Why are you trying to police how I post? Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #11
I was only trying to help you get to your point. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #12
No, I knew what my point was, thinking for one's self isn't bad, I knew the answers. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #14
If you know what your point is, that's half the battle. Let me take a guess. rhett o rick Sep 2014 #15
BINGO Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #16
I believe that rhett o rick has now taken you to the point of absurdity. onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #17
I love when people can think on their own and find the answers, some Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #19
I agree: we should all think for ourselves onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #22
To be honest I only listened to a very short portion, not sure where he gets his facts. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #24
With all due respect ... onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #27
I see where many try to relate all problems to corporations, what was blamed before Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #28
The powerful onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #29
I personally do not agree with you but you are entitled to your opinion. Thinkingabout Sep 2014 #30
Likewise! onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #31
Damn, it is all Obama's fault again. There wouldn't be beheadings if it wasn't for him still_one Sep 2014 #3
Didn't actually listen to the piece, did you? Just enough to get angry, right? marble falls Sep 2014 #6
Obama didn't start this. He is just another puppet carrying on the legacy. BlueStreak Sep 2014 #7
Pretty much it. ballyhoo Sep 2014 #8
Please, that is getting old. nm rhett o rick Sep 2014 #13
Man, that was a good one. I firmly believe ballyhoo Sep 2014 #9
"...What is it good for? Absolutely nothin'!..." n/t jtuck004 Sep 2014 #18
Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious ... onwardsand upwards Sep 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget Sep 2014 #21
WHY ARE YOU POSTING that here?? yuiyoshida Sep 2014 #23
sorry I made a mistake. neverforget Sep 2014 #25
Thanks for the OP, sadoldgirl Sep 2014 #26

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. Did the bombing allow the group on the mountain top to escape their entrapment?
Sat Sep 20, 2014, 07:12 PM
Sep 2014

Did the bombing and ground troops in Iraq allow for the dam's control to be taken back from ISIS?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
10. Yes but apparently you're not if you have to ask questions like, "Did the bombing allow the group
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:26 AM
Sep 2014

on the mountain top to escape their entrapment?" If you are trying to make a point, why don't you use statements in lieu of insinuating by question?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. If you know what your point is, that's half the battle. Let me take a guess.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 01:13 PM
Sep 2014

If the bombing helped the group on the mountain top escape then we must continue bombing. Actually it's pretty simple when you put it like that.

 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
17. I believe that rhett o rick has now taken you to the point of absurdity.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:43 PM
Sep 2014

I thought it only polite to point it out.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
19. I love when people can think on their own and find the answers, some
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 03:53 PM
Sep 2014

Wants everything given. The truth is when see a post they try to rewrite and tell their own story, yep absurdity. But sometimes the cat likes to play with their prey before the kill.

 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
22. I agree: we should all think for ourselves
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:19 PM
Sep 2014

Please note, though, that Mr. Brand is speaking factually when he mentions that ISIS was supported, trained, and armed by the US -- just like the Mujahideen in Afghanistan in the late 1970s and the Contras in Nicaragua in the 1980s.

We are being asked to believe (by the corporate media) that the US keeps losing control of its terrorist creations: the Mujahideen morphed into Al Qaeda, and the Syrian resistance morphed into ISIS -- like 2 monsters that Frankenstein created. Ooopsie!!!!

Which do you believe, then: that the US is monstrously and serially incompetent -- or that it has other objectives than "peace and stability" in mind?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
24. To be honest I only listened to a very short portion, not sure where he gets his facts.
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:49 PM
Sep 2014

At this point in time it is unimportant who trained who, this is a radical group, it isn't just one country who view this group as radical. They have seized an opportunity in Iraq and Syria. Hitler also sought to control the world, he failed, this group will also fail. Some may seek to return to the Seventh century, I live in the world where I have been placed, do not desire to time warp backwards.

 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
27. With all due respect ...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:11 PM
Sep 2014

I think it is extremely important to understand the source of terrorism. If we try only to treat the symptoms, and not the disease itself, then we are doomed to repeat the symptoms over and over again.

ISIS, Al Qaeda, and the Contras, are symptoms, and corporate control of the US government is the disease.

As a consequence of the disease, US foreign policy has had one central aim since WWII: to maximize the profits of the corporations that run the US government. It is in their interests to have weak national governments (unable to defend themselves against corporate power) and to have eternal war (it's good for arms sales, for oil prices, for companies that service the military, and as an excuse for suppressing dissent and limiting freedoms at home). That's why we see so many well-funded, armed, and organized terrorists in the world.

You do live in the world that you have been placed, and it is understandable that you do not desire to warp time backwards. However, a peek at Orwell's 1984 may not bee such a bad thing, if you want to understand the world you currently live in.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
28. I see where many try to relate all problems to corporations, what was blamed before
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:23 PM
Sep 2014

Corporations was created. These groups hails from ancestors who has fought for years, what do you think caused them to have war after war?

 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
29. The powerful
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 10:37 PM
Sep 2014

Historically, the powerful were mainly royalty -- and they made plenty of wars.

Today, the powerful are the very wealthy -- corporations are their instruments, and they make plenty of wars, too.

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
9. Man, that was a good one. I firmly believe
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 11:22 AM
Sep 2014

every word he said and have the same thoughts about Obama.

 

onwardsand upwards

(276 posts)
20. Pointing out the obvious to the oblivious ...
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:00 PM
Sep 2014

... definitely has some social value, and some comic value.

Mr. Obama is, like every other president since Eisenhower, nakedly a shill for the corporate state -- draped in a gaudy flag.

Mr. Brand points out his nakedness, for all to see -- at least those not completely blinded by the dazzling propaganda machine.

Bravo!!!!

Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

yuiyoshida

(41,817 posts)
23. WHY ARE YOU POSTING that here??
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 04:31 PM
Sep 2014

THATS for another post... not here. IF SOMEONE posted something here that was taken to A JURY SHOW the results..BUT NO ONE DID. Hello?

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
26. Thanks for the OP,
Sun Sep 21, 2014, 06:39 PM
Sep 2014

it is unfortunate that these kinds of analysis are only watched by a very small group.

Perhaps, if we would be allowed to see the results of only two of our bombs, people might think twice about their effectiveness. I for what it is worth think that we just allow ISIS to get more and more recruits.

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