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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
Tue Jan 28, 2014, 11:49 PM Jan 2014

Why Bitcoin Terrifies Big Banks | Interview with Andreas Antonopoulos



breakingtheset·Published on Jan 28, 2014

Abby Martin speaks with Andreas Antonopoulos, founder of Root Eleven and co-host of let's Talk Bitcoin, discussing how Bitcoin works, and why it's so important to have a decentralized system of money.

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Why Bitcoin Terrifies Big Banks | Interview with Andreas Antonopoulos (Original Post) DeSwiss Jan 2014 OP
Other appearing to be a global scam, bitcoin isn't that terrifying Renew Deal Jan 2014 #1
Having my Money in Bitcoins Would Terrify Me AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #2
Where do you get that idea from? MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #3
Backed by the Full Faith and Credit of Absolutely Nothing AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #4
Pray tell… what do you think our fractional reserve system is backed by? MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #5
In the case of Bitcoin, the Fraction is 0% AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #6
Consider what is going on in Montreal... MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #7
Are You Claiming a Building in Montreal as the "Intrinsic Value"? AndyTiedye Jan 2014 #8
I'm not sophisticated or so naive that I'd invest in bit coin... MrMickeysMom Jan 2014 #9

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
2. Having my Money in Bitcoins Would Terrify Me
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jan 2014

The "value" of Bitcoins is based on the cost of computing. Is there ANYTHING that has dropped faster than the cost of computing?

Oh, but wait, they periodically make the computations more difficult to make up for that, so it's OK. NOT.
Whoever knows when and how much they are going to do that gets to game the system.

If you want to get out from under banks and government-issued currencies, the only sane alternative is barter.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
3. Where do you get that idea from?
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 01:12 AM
Jan 2014

I understand bit coin are based on a rare algorithmic property of numbers. They have an intrinsic value and at least one person has shown they have survived on them for a year.

Bitcoin may not the the end product of where we go, but it far exceeds legal tender based on a fractional reserve system.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
4. Backed by the Full Faith and Credit of Absolutely Nothing
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

Please explain to me from whence the "intrinsic value" comes. I don't see it.

I understand bit coin are based on a rare algorithmic property of numbers


Very similar to algorithms used for cryptography. Spent much of my career in secure networking and we had to change algorithms or increase key lengths pretty regularly to keep ahead of advances in computer power.

The issues with fractional reserve are not in dispute, but with Bitcoin there is NO "reserve" at all. Nothing. Nada.
Bitcoins are only worth what some greater fool will pay for them.

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
6. In the case of Bitcoin, the Fraction is 0%
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 10:34 PM
Jan 2014

I get the fractional part. Still way better than nothing.

So how do Bitcoins have any "intrinsic value"?

AndyTiedye

(23,500 posts)
8. Are You Claiming a Building in Montreal as the "Intrinsic Value"?
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:17 PM
Jan 2014

Plenty of companies that have come and gone had much more impressive buildings than that one.

I get that you very much want Bitcoin to succeed as a way of sticking it to the bankers.
I don't much like bankers either.

What we have here is just another speculative bubble. The price has been extremely volatile. Buy into it at your peril.

If you want to stick it to the bankers, use barter.

MrMickeysMom

(20,453 posts)
9. I'm not sophisticated or so naive that I'd invest in bit coin...
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:28 PM
Jan 2014

But, I'm not so naive to think that decentralizing initiatives like bit coin will bring forth the alternative to what has become a casino Gulag.

We'll see if you're right, while the backlash builds against what we have in place now (talk about bubbles).

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