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Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:27 AM

Jimmy Kimmel asks which is better, ACA or Obamacare?

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Reply Jimmy Kimmel asks which is better, ACA or Obamacare? (Original post)
ffr Oct 2013 OP
onehandle Oct 2013 #1
TheDebbieDee Oct 2013 #26
tomm2thumbs Oct 2013 #2
Stainless Oct 2013 #3
lamp_shade Oct 2013 #4
SoapBox Oct 2013 #5
Wait Wut Oct 2013 #6
SmittynMo Oct 2013 #7
MythosMaster Oct 2013 #14
JDPriestly Oct 2013 #22
Plucketeer Oct 2013 #8
RedSpartan Oct 2013 #9
Flo Mingo Oct 2013 #10
robinlynne Oct 2013 #11
madfloridian Oct 2013 #12
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2013 #13
Enrique Oct 2013 #15
KansDem Oct 2013 #16
Enthusiast Oct 2013 #46
shireen Oct 2013 #17
rdharma Oct 2013 #18
Coyotl Oct 2013 #19
grantcart Oct 2013 #24
trof Oct 2013 #20
mucifer Oct 2013 #47
trof Oct 2013 #50
nolabear Oct 2013 #21
Rozlee Oct 2013 #23
toby jo Oct 2013 #25
Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #34
Rozlee Oct 2013 #35
Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #36
cui bono Oct 2013 #27
heaven05 Oct 2013 #28
liberal N proud Oct 2013 #29
Neoma Oct 2013 #49
Sky Masterson Oct 2013 #30
drynberg Oct 2013 #31
yuiyoshida Oct 2013 #32
Fantastic Anarchist Oct 2013 #33
zebonaut Oct 2013 #37
valerief Oct 2013 #40
SmittynMo Oct 2013 #43
BillyRibs Oct 2013 #38
valerief Oct 2013 #39
nilram Oct 2013 #41
SmittynMo Oct 2013 #42
SmittynMo Oct 2013 #44
pacalo Oct 2013 #45
question everything Oct 2013 #48

Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:34 AM

1. Uninformed Idiot America Lives. nt

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Response to onehandle (Reply #1)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:18 PM

26. Unfortunately, they vote, too!

 

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:38 AM

2. I did the same experiment on my mom - same results


The irony is that labeling it 'Obamacare' perhaps has some short-term pitfalls with those who hate the President anyway, but in the history books, it will forever put a stamp of legacy on this legislation that rests squarely on his efforts to bring health care to those without it in America.

Yay!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:39 AM

3. That Was Priceless

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:42 AM

4. Thank you. That is hysterical. Just posted to my facebook.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:46 AM

5. Well ya know, Amerika is stoopid!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 10:49 AM

6. /sigh

I'd say this is depressing, but I've seen so much idiocy surrounding the ACA that I've become jaded. Let them be dumb. Eventually, they'll have no choice but to figure it out.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:06 AM

7. OMG

Did you notice anything labeled with "Obama", is bad for us? I also noticed a racial issue here, which is really sad. All the whites voted for the ACA, and not Obamacare. The one black voted for Obamacare. And the hispanic, said the name speaks for itself? OMG. And why did these people voice their opinions, if they knew they were clueless? I'm willing to bet that the ones against Obamacare, are republicants. Which also tells you of their ignorance and stupidity. I wish they would would have made a fool out of each and every one of them.

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Response to SmittynMo (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:38 AM

14. Progressives should put Conservative

in front of any bills they put on the floor....

The Conservative Affordable Healthcare Act, would sell!

You know those that were filmed would still be in denial after watching this...

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Response to SmittynMo (Reply #7)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:22 PM

22. Why do people voice their opinions if they are clueless?

Because they watch Fox News (or similar media) and think they are informed.

That's the power of propaganda.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:18 AM

8. Yeah - I don't like either one!

 

See, I don't like Obamacare cause I don't like the idea of muslim medicine. And ACA? Who wants to be part of the American Communist Act??? I like a good ol' hospital emergency room! Love the exciting ride there with the sirens screaming and all the pretty lites flashing to clear the roads. After all, the fact that I had to put off whatever until it reached critical mass - shouldn't the hospital be GLAD to have me as a training aid???

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:21 AM

9. Painful as this is to watch, I think it is actually helpful in educating people.

Both the dopes they are interviewing and, more important, the audience watching at home.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:21 AM

10. These are the people complaining

about the uninformed electorate who voted for Obama.

Stoopid is as stoopid is.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:27 AM

11. oh my goodness. I had no idea..

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:28 AM

12. Just linked to your post at Twitter.

https://twitter.com/madfloridian

Hilarious, but sad. And unfortunately true.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:31 AM

13. Right Wing Media has been telling everyone "Obamacare" is free healthcare for black people,...

 

That's paid for by white people.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:40 AM

15. it's the opposite of a McNugget

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:42 AM

16. ...and they vote.


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Response to KansDem (Reply #16)

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 07:53 AM

46. for people like Ted Cruz.......nt

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:48 AM

17. someone should do a nationwilde poll!

Do you prefer the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare?

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Response to shireen (Reply #17)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 11:59 AM

18. It's been done...... results similar to Kimmel's.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2013/09/29/obamacare-affordable-care-act-obama-column/2892183/

"A recent CNBC poll found more Americans oppose ObamaCare than oppose the Affordable Care Act. But more Americans support ObamaCare than the Affordable Care Act.

Confused?

That would be understandable given that these are two names for the same law. CNBC polled two different groups, using "ObamaCare" for one and "Affordable Care Act" for the other. Forty-six percent of the group asked about "ObamaCare" opposed it. But only 37% of those asked about the health law opposed it.

Conversely, ObamaCare had higher support than the law. As CNBC put it, Obama's name "raises the positives and the negatives."

As a rational matter, this is nuts. An informed person should have the same opinions positive or negative about a piece of legislation regardless of what it's called. But because politics is so often driven by our attitudes toward specific personalities, for many Americans, their attitudes toward a monumentally significant piece of legislation are driven by something as petty as whether "Obama" is in the title."

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:03 PM

19. The ACA covers ignorant people, Obamacare does not

 

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:05 PM

24. lol

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:08 PM

20. Burton LaFlore, Democratic candidate for AL Dist. 1 feels the same way.

He spoke to our local Democratic club last week.
We had to explain to him that ACA and 'Obamacare' were the same thing.


BTW, he has NO chance in a solid repug district.

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Response to trof (Reply #20)

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 08:24 AM

47. Would you really want him to represent you if he doesn't know that?

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Response to mucifer (Reply #47)

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 05:26 PM

50. No. I will hold my nose and vote for the least objectionable repug.

In a runoff, it's a teabagger vs a guy who switched from Dem to repug in 1997.
I'll take the former Dem in the repug runoff and the general.
The teabagger scares the hell out of me.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:18 PM

21. That's why it's so important to keep informing people without insulting them.

I get mad at these kinds of folks for what they do to my life and the lives of many Americans, but I also feel sorry for them. Everyone wants to think he's well informed, and often believes he is, when in fact he's just been well manipulated. Our job is to gently, kindly guide them toward what's real. And that's what the facts of this thing will do, at least those who can be guided. The others? Well, they'll get to benefit too. I'll think of it as a particularly nasty illness on their part and hope for a cure.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 12:36 PM

23. Same thing when you tell old teabaggers that their Medicare is socialized medicine.

I thought an argument I had once with one of my husband's old military cronies was going to come to blows after I told him his TRICARE was socialized medicine and so had our Army healthcare when we were active duty. He served partly during the Cold War era and angrily informed me that he deserved his military healthcare and was enraged when I cracked up and told him he was fighting the Evil Socialist Empire for the honor of serving in a socialist organization and having socialist health care.

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Response to Rozlee (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:07 PM

25. I hit the righties in my life with that, too. You can get em on schooling,

 

roadwork, the fired dept., the police dept, the park systems, etc.

It just blows their minds.

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Response to Rozlee (Reply #23)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:06 PM

34. Medicare is not socialized medicine, though.

The medical costs are socialized (it's a single-payer system), but the providers are either private or public. So, even saying that Medicare is "socialized medicine" is incorrect. The costs are socialized in terms of payment, but so is every insurance entity then. The delivery (the medicine part) is still either private or public.

An example of "socialized medicine" would be the VA.

Just to make a comparison.

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Response to Fantastic Anarchist (Reply #34)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:30 PM

35. Ah! Thanks for the clarification.

I use the VA system, but I know Rethugs have long had a hardon for privatizing it. I like it just the way it is.

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Response to Rozlee (Reply #35)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:05 PM

36. You're more than welcome!

The Republicans want to privatize everything, and we need to fight them every step of the way.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:23 PM

27. I hope every one of these ignorant opinionated fools watches themselves on TV

and hears the audience laughing at them.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:37 PM

28. geez

 

unfucking believable!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 01:41 PM

29. You made me look stupid - NO, your did a fine job of that all by your self

Uninformed America thanks to the "librul media"

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Response to liberal N proud (Reply #29)

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 02:06 PM

49. This is because of the culture of having to always be right.

A sign of someone who makes room to be wrong is someone who actually asks questions of say, the difference between ACA and Obama care. Clearly all these people don't truly know, but they pretend to know it. There isn't a difference between the two, but thinking there is, is a natural response to a question that does separate something they don't know much about.

That's what I have problems with, people who don't ask questions and thinks they know enough to argue the topic to the death and state their opinions down firm on something they don't really know about.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:05 PM

30. Stop. Copy Link. Post to your facebook accounts.

Proof that people hate what they don't understand.
Hmmm..So, If you get people to not understand something, then they will fear it an probably tend to hate it.
Fascinating...

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:16 PM

31. I'm thinkin' that sheepal just repeat what some talkin' head says and ignors reality

This is very sad, and makes me think that s/he who can get Americans to really listen will call the shots, y'know, be in the Oval Office. Any ideas as to how this could be done?

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 02:56 PM

32. I bet everyone is a Fox News Viewer

wotcha think?

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 03:00 PM

33. Hilarious.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:44 PM

37. Thats why rethugs call it Obamacare; they know people are stupid

 

Why did we let them call it Obamacare?????

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Response to zebonaut (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:29 PM

40. In a year, when it's a success, the rethugs will call it Romneycare or Heritagecare. nt

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Response to zebonaut (Reply #37)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:19 PM

43. Now that they think it's called that,

it's gives them one more reason to hate it. Anything tagged with his name must mean it's bad, bad, bad. The hatred of the right comes out again, and again.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 04:51 PM

38. OOOOOOOOOOOOO!

 

THE STUPID HURTS SO MUCH!

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:26 PM

39. Thank you, Jimmy! nt

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 05:53 PM

41. what a good sport that lady is.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:18 PM

42. This thing has gone viral

Sure says a lot for these uninformed FAUX viewers.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 08:22 PM

44. I wish they would have asked one more question and

then made total fools out of each and every one of them, by telling them its the same thing. And the other question would have been: What news channel do you frequent?

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Tue Oct 1, 2013, 09:19 PM

45. This is great! You have to laugh to keep from crying.

It's a testament to Fixed News & all the Chuck ("fact-checking is not my job" Todds out there. This is their handiwork -- the fruit of their labor.

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Response to ffr (Original post)

Wed Oct 2, 2013, 01:01 PM

48. K&R

No different from 2009 when a would be Teabagger demanded that the government not touch his Medicare..

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