Pic Of The Moment: Today's GOP In One Statistic

[EarlG]

New poll shows 44% of rank-and-file Republicans believe a violent uprising may be necessary soon

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[rrneck]

1. And 18% of Democrats.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022784789#post28

[heaven05]

2. hmmmm

under bushmonkey and darth, this kind of talk would have been treasonous. Yesterday the figure was 29 percent. The numbers jumped that much? I wonder? Could it be the President?????? Things are getting crazier and crazier with these goddamn people. But, I DO take them seriously and therein lies the dilemma?:

[tridim]

5. Apparently the GOP/SCOTUS coup in 2000 wasn't enough.

They want to use their guns this time, on Liberals. At least the 44% of Republicans that admitted it.

[fasttense]

58. Then they need to give up the label Conservative

RepubliCONS who want an armed revolution and stage a coup are not conservative. That is way out there and bizarre, very different from the word conservative.

I think Hitler was the right wing's answer to a socialist or communist Germany (Russia was a lot closer to Germany then the US). I think the right wing paid him, funded his political machine to prevent socialism and communism from taking hold in Germany. The capitalist just couldn't live with a socialist Germany. That's why people like Prescott Bush paid for Hitler's rise to power, he was forced by FDR to stop funneling money to Hitler after the US declared war on Germany. No loyalty or patriotism in the bush clan. They just want capitalism to live forever even when it is clearly dysfunctional and broken.

So if the right wing were willing to hire a Hitler to be the tyrannical mass murdering dictator of Germany to save capitalism, they certainly don't have a problems with an armed revolution in the US. But they are NOT Conservative.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

3. Also: Republican Belief in End-Times Stifling Action on Climate Change:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022785432

[Crowman1979]

4. You and what army, Rethugs?

[Sheepshank]

6. Yeah but...

the reality is that 85% of those will be crapping their pants and drooling on themselves to avoid actual participation. They think *other* Republicans should do the work and they will be the armchair supporters waiting to reap the rewards (whatever rewards they perceive is the result).

[Crowman1979]

7. What Liberties?!?!

I wouldn't consider lying us into war, controlling women's uteri, destroying the environment, giving the federal government cart blanche to start a police state by voting for W two times in a row, and allowing mental psychopaths to roam free with the firearm of their choice--to be considered liberties.

Now would all of you right-wing thugs just die already?

[AgingAmerican]

8. Information bubble victims

My brother is one of them. They have spent decades in the RW information bubble. They have completely lost touch with reality.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

17. And to top it off they expect us to accept them like they're a different culture.

[Skidmore]

35. Would your brother actually

pick up arms and use them against family and neighbors who disagree with him?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. That actually happened in the Civil War....

Wiki "Copperheads" too.

[PatrynXX]

9. don't I know that

cept both my dad and brother expect us to fire the first shot. or expect whoever they disagree with to fire the first shot. hence all the stupid ammo and gun hoarding. and as with all hoarders needs to be treated as an illness..

[DissidentVoice]

10. Nothing new

During the two times since Reagan we have had a Democratic Administration (Clinton 1993-2001; Obama 2009-2015) this kind of bullshit comes out of the woodwork, usually clad in Army-Navy store fatigues, camouflage paint and packing AR-15's.

I firmly believe that most of the Republican party of today believes that the White House is, or "should," be THEIRS by some sort of divine right ever since Ronald Reagan.

Two terms of Reagan was supposed to transition into two terms of Bush I, then into two terms of Quayle (thank God that didn't happen...I originally come from northern Indiana and remember him as a dim-bulb Senator), etc., with the Democratic party forever marginalised as a "token opposition."

When the voters decided otherwise in 1992...THIS JUST CANNOT HAPPEN!

And what did we get from that? TIM McVEIGH.

So they got their two terms of hard-right authoritarian Bush/Cheney and they're pissed off that they didn't again get their convenient little segue into Palin/McCain (yes, I got the order right!), so now it's back to calling themselves "defenders of liberty." Yet they don't seem to have a problem with the horrific Patriot Act.

I see this kind of B.S. elsewhere on the Net frequently...usually accompanied by taking Jefferson's quote about "the tree of liberty being watered with the blood of tyrants" way out of context. If Obama were any kind of tyrant they wouldn't be free to bitch, moan, piss and whine about it!

It would be interesting to see a face-to-face between these self-styled "freedom fighters" and trained National Guard troops, State Police Special Tactics, etc.

Of course, when I put this to them they say "the Guard will switch sides and join US." They know little of a sworn oath by the military and/or the Uniform Code of Military Justice, especially Art. 94, "Mutiny And Sedition."

http://usmilitary.about.com/library/milinfo/ucmj/blart-94.htm

And what would they want from such a "revolution?" Why...one-party far-right Republican rule in perpetuity, of course!

From where I stand, that is called fascism.

[NewJeffCT]

18. It's been their pattern

when a Democrat is elected, rile up the extremists to get the rest of the country afraid - then, the Republicans in Congress seem "moderate" by comparison, when they've been moving further & further right since Reagan.

This also happened in the 60s with JFK and LBJ - you saw the rise of the John Birch Society. In the 90s under Clinton, it was the militia groups and the like (Waco, McVeigh, etc)... now, you have the son of the John Birch Society in the Tea Party.

[BlueCaliDem]

19. I agree nearly with 100% of your post, except for:

Yet they don't seem to have a problem with the horrific Patriot Act.

Having spent more than my fair share of time on HuffPost - where more and more paid Rightwing-trolls appear - they HATE the Patriot Act now. Sure, they didn't when Duhbya Fuhrer was in power, but they hate it now that Black man is president.

And yes, since fascism is right-wing ideology, it's exactly what they crave for in 'Murica - just as long as one of their own is the dictator {he later softened it to "decider", though}.

[CrispyQ]

62. They are two year olds who never grew up. Everything must be their way.

Since Obama was elected, they have been throwing a major temper tantrum. I find it increasingly difficult to be friends with self-identified repubs. It's like a character flaw. How can someone of integrity support the party?

[Frustratedlady]

11. The count wouldn't be so high if the Becks, Hannitys, Limbaughs of the radio world...

were gone. They incite 24/7 and brainwash their listeners with all this crap.

We'll always have that 28%. They are beyond help.

[firenewt]

12. Consider this: I am a GOP/TP worst nightmare. A hardcore liberal with guns and the training to

use them. I will shoot back. Hell, given the right circumstances, I might shoot first. You
rank-and-file Repugs (and you are rank) better buy Depends 'cause you are going to need them.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

20. The dreams of each side behind barricades with a nice warm tire fire between us are nice but,..

...in reality these people would barricade themselves in their homes,...apart from the occasional pickup truck full of ammo and beer.

[firenewt]

36. So our best bet would be to blockade the beer and ammo runs. That would really put a kink in

their undies. Surrender would happen within 24 hours. Sooner if we send in the beer.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

42. Especially if the beer is presented by women in bikinis.

[Initech]

13. So let's extrapolate this for a minute:

The party that believes that guns and fetuses have more rights than people favors an armed revolution to protect our civil liberties from being eroded by the very people they elect to ensure that guns and fetuses have more rights than people. Irony is lost here.

[Shadowflash]

25. Not only that...

...But they would rather cut funding for educating children, medical care, housing for seniors and social security so we can increase (or at least not cut!) the defense budget so the government can buy more arms to use against them.


I don't get it.

[liberal N proud]

14. You may not like the liberties they want to protect

Such as blocking abortions and forcing children to pray in school.

[Union Scribe]

15. How cynical am I that I figured it would be higher? nt

[gordianot]

16. The vast majority of persons responding in favor of this have never seen someone killed in war.

Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain) flirted with this situation after he briefly joined the Confederate Army chronicled in "My Military Campaign".

They would do well to read this essay given if they are capable of reading.

See link: http://classiclit.about.com/library/bl-etexts/mtwain/bl-mtwain-mymil.htm

[DeSwiss]

21. HA-HA

- Gun-clingers are sooooo predictable!

[CarrieLynne]

22. Dont they really mean just ONE liberty?

they dont seem to give a flying fuck about any of the others....

[BlueStreak]

23. The key words are "self-described"

No sane people identify themselves as part of this rabble of idiots.

I don't know what sane conservative people call themselves these days, but not very many of them admit to being Republicans.

[DainBramaged]

24. Protecting liberties

1) Owning an arsenal

2) Marrying your cousin

3) distilling your own

4) Incandescent bulbs

5) Get sick and die and no one can stop them




Welcome to the alternative universe of Rethugs.

[valerief]

26. Brain-dead Fox zombies. I mean, really! nt

[broadcaster75201]

27. Has anyone told them we too are armed AND shoot back?

And do they think this is the 18th Century? (Yeah, I know. They do). One Abrahms tank and a dron and their little pop guns are one and done. Not to mention the 75% that will flat shit themselves when, I dunno, the U.S. fights back.

Terrorists all.

[grammiepammie]

28. New poll

You wonder why. Have you ever really listened to right wing talk radio and, yes, FOX news at times. If this is what they are listening to then, of course, this is what they believe. Shame on our country.

[Auntie Bush]

29. An armed revolution would NOT be to protect their liberties. It would be

to get Republicans back in office because that's the only way they can be in control again. They'll revolt after the Democrats have control for the next 20 years. Read that and weep trolls. We can almost be assured of 8 years of Hillary + 8 more from another Dem + 3 more years of Obama...by then they'll be itching start a Revolution...if not before. Soon as they realize/believe they will NEVER get back in office...Watch Out!

[florida08]

30. against who and why?

Background checks? These are a scary bunch of sociopaths They're just itching to blast those AR 15's they all stocked up on.

[JDPriestly]

31. This does not surprise me. During the Bush administration, I watched the rapid increase in

disregard for justice and for economic justice in particular.

The Occupy Movement was the peaceful "revolt" if you will of the left. Usually, the left in our country is very peaceful. Has been that way since the revolution of 1776.

But the right. The Southern right-wing seceded from the Union. They have been behind most of the violent rebellions in the country with the exception of the tiny, fringe movements of the left after the 1960s.

Unions have been involved in violent episodes in the past, but the violence was often perpetrated by company or police thugs.

In the past, when enough middle class people get frustrated with the social and economic injustice, something goes haywire and there can be violence. France and England have gone through this at various times as have other European countries as well as countries we think of as third world.

The essential problem is insuring enough social and economic justice or, at the very least, a sense of social and economic justice in the middle class.

That banks have paid no price for their irresponsible lending and derivatives policies while so many middle class people have lost their jobs, their homes, their businesses and the dreams of their children is a very serious matter, far more serious than our deficit problems.


Disparity in wealth. Having rich and poor is bad, but when the middle class, the creative class, is falling into poverty, a country is in decline.

[ThoughtCriminal]

32. Because Gerrymandering and Voter Suppression won't be enough

To them, democracy only works when only old white men can vote.

[Jamaal510]

33. Hmm...they didn't seem so concerned with protecting liberties

as minorities and low-income people were getting denied the right to vote last year.

[freshwest]

66. It's NEVER about minority rights.. It's the evil government that supports those rights they hate...

They are NOT for freedom, liberty and justice for ALL, because that means EQUALITY.

[JackN415]

34. Don Trump wanted it on the election night last November. Now how to hold his toupee in place...

while he charges up the hill, that's a challenge.

[secondvariety]

37. The reality of a Republican revolution;

[cstanleytech]

39. What the 44% translate to is that 44% of republicans need to clearly

be put into a mental facility before they hurt someone.

[Billsmile]

40. Smedley Butler Wouldn't do it for Prescott Bush

But maybe 44% of Republicans will do it if the 1% is ever forced to contribute its fair share again.

[toby jo]

41. "Armed revolution", too funny. On the bright side, as long as their minds are shoveling

this shit, they'll be less able to organize for anything intelligent. Drivel in, drivel out.

[caledesi]

43. The 2nd amendment ISN'T the only one. Thanks Earl.

[another_liberal]

44. They're hate-crazed, racism-filled willfully ignorant dupes.

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I think many of them know what is really wrong with the United States, but taking on the big bosses and greedhead bankers sounds far too hard. Instead they look around for someone weaker and more powerless than themselves to blame for their disappointments and hard knocks. They are encouraged in this by the bosses' and bankers' shills on radio and TV. Many of them are also so stupid they imagine using a gun to "solve the problem" is the easiest and most effective thing they can do. The fact we have a Black man as our President clinches the deal, and we get talk of armed rebellion, "To take our country back by force!"

They are deluded dimwits, working against their own best interests. Maybe their children will catch on and direct their ire against those who are truly oppressing middle and working class Americans. Maybe??

[SemperEadem]

45. Oh, do they mean the liberties

they've been giving up since 9/11/01 through the imbeciles they've been electing to congress and local government?

jackasses...

[DallasNE]

46. This Actually Understates the GOP's Problem

Because only 31% disagreed with the statement that "armed revolution" might be necessary in the future. That means nearly 70% were at least somewhat open to the notion. That "not sure" total of 20% would be alarming in its own right but when piggybacked with the 44% saying yes then we have a major, major problem.

Keep in mind that the only age group that voted for Romney was the 65 and older so we are talking about old people talking about taking up arms to fight this country -- apparently using their Social Security checks to buy their weapons. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

[rhett o rick]

47. The 1% recognize that they will only be able to push us so far and we will revolt.

I see no other end in sight. We have been getting robbed for 40 years and seems to be accelerating, not abating. No FDR has stepped forward. So if there is going to be an "armed revolt" the 1% would like to pit part of the 99% against the other part. The blue against the red.

So I dont think the Republicans are wrong on this, they just are misguided as to the cause of their problems. It is easy to hate them because they arent smart enough to recognize the real enemy, but we need to help them see the light. We have a common enemy that may not wish us dead but do wish our wealth.

If someone sees a way out without revolution, please explain it to me.

For the record, I dont think an armed revolution will be successful, I do think it is inevitable.

Isnt it time for another bank bailout? It worked so well the last time.

[ThoughtCriminal]

48. Let's take a look at one of these "Self Described Republicans"

[Bjorn Against]

49. And we have a thread in the gungeon with a few members who seem to agree with them...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1172121683

I am glad most DUers don't think like this, but it is sad that we seem to have a few who do.

[SpankMe]

50. Revolution? I'm for it. Let's let 'em go. Now.

Let's let these bags of fuckweed have their own country. We'll negotiate a retreat to the West and Northeast, offering them the central and Southern US.

We'll split up into 2 huge federal districts where each can interpret the constitution any way they like.

They can be this land-raping, income-divided, gun-worshiping, under-educated, prison-industrial-complex, abortion-criminalizing Jesus-land.

We'll be a more enlightened, community-oriented, healthy, smart, clean, secular and compassionate society.

I'm absolutely sick of this new hyper-conservative strain and what it's doing to the country. I'm feeling a little depressed myself about our prospects of staying "united".

Looking at the modus operendi of the R-party in this day and age (win at all costs or destroy America trying), I can't see how the American ideal can continue.

[lonestarnot]

51. And whose kids do they intend to send to this revolution?

[Hubert Flottz]

63. They will import their soldiers from thin air.

The rich GOPers bought substitutes during the American Civil war and rigged the draft boards from them on. I ain't afraid of no Ghosts!

Most of the democrat's kids had weapons training during the country's wars but the republicans like Dork Cheney "Had better things to do. That's why old Dick is not even safe to go in the woods with. If guys like Dick have the teabagger's backs the teabagger's won't make it back.

[Chalfont]

52. Good luck with that.

They might want to check the history books to see if they can find a group that took up arms against the US gov't and didn't get their asses smoked.

[wickerwoman]

53. Unless they did this poll in 2001 in reference to the Patriot Act, then frankly they can bog off.

If you're not going to invoke the spectre of armed insurrection at the pointless invasion of Iraq, torture, indefinite detention, warrantless wiretapping, FBI infiltration of peace organisations, or deployment of armed mercenaries for crowd control during Katrina then you can piss of with your threats about "restoring liberties" through lowering taxes and buying assault rifles.

[airplaneman]

54. Here is my take

What is threatening their liberties:
-a black president
-liberals
-taxes
-obamacare
-contraception and abortion
-gun control

And how are they similar to jihadists:
-radical ideology
-willing to kill any other ideology
-obsession with weapons
-intolerance of other ideologies

Did I miss a few?
-Airplane

[mwrguy]

55. Bring it, fucktards

Waddle onto the field of battle against the professional military of the USA.

Ol' Roscoe and Cooter might start having second thoughts after a JDAM gets dropped on their double-wide.

[David__77]

56. And what was the percentage of Democrats under Bush?

Just curious.

[spicegal]

57. That is sad. What liberties exactly? I'd really like to know since I keep reading that, but

haven't yet figured out what they're talking about.

[Thor_MN]

59. The Repulblicans are revolting...

[Chisox08]

60. Didn't they try this back in the 1860's?

If they want to get their asses handed to them, have at it Hos.

[rightsideout]

61. The Republicans have one thing going against them if they revolt

They are stupid.

[Turborama]

64. K&R Excellent slam! Using the tinfoil for background was a work of genius

I missed it until I saw a smaller version here: http://www.politicususa.com/find-koch-dollars-root-calls-armed-revolution-obama.html

I'm always amazed by photometry and optical illusions.





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