Wed Apr 23, 2014, 09:46 PM
TomCADem (16,341 posts)
"The Most Enduring Myth About the Presidency" - Norm Ornstein
A nice article by Norm Ornstein destroying the current narrative of blaming the President for Republican obstructionism.
http://www.nationaljournal.com/washington-inside-out/the-most-enduring-myth-about-the-presidency-20140422 I do understand the sentiment here and the frustration over the deep dysfunction that has taken over our politics. It is tempting to believe that a president could overcome the tribalism, polarization, and challenges of the permanent campaign, by doing what other presidents did to overcome their challenges. It is not as if passing legislation and making policy was easy in the old days.
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TomCADem | Apr 2014 | OP |
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COLGATE4 | Apr 2014 | #2 | |
yurbud | Apr 2014 | #3 | |
Bill USA | Apr 2014 | #4 |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 10:18 PM
1StrongBlackMan (31,849 posts)
1. Kick for reality. eom.
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #1)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 08:55 AM
COLGATE4 (14,432 posts)
2. K&R. The bottom line from seems to be:
You can get things done if:
a) you have an overwhelming majority of your supporters in Congress; or b) You have reasonable cooperation from members of the opposing party. When you have neither, nothing gets accomplished. Thanks, Repukes for six years of pointless obstructionism. |
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:34 PM
yurbud (39,405 posts)
3. and Jimmy Carter had a Democratic congress that was already starting to move to the right
Response to TomCADem (Original post)
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 04:31 PM
Bill USA (6,436 posts)
4. Norm Ornstein used to be a frequent guest on PBS Newshour - till he and Thomas Mann wrote the piece
"Let's just say it: the Republicans are the problem" published in the Washington Post (soon after they published a book of the same name) which described the Republican party as "an insurgent outlier" of American politics.
since then, I believe Ornstein has been on Faux News - light (PBS NewsHour) one time. Thomas Mann has just disappeared. Ornstein and Mann, since they chose to come out and speak the simple truth about the GOP, are now the bete noire duo of M$M. Meanwhile we have been treated to, what, thousands of discussions about President Obama's "leadership" while not once during Obama's administration has the word "filibuster" passed the lips of the GOP toadies who are M$M. Not once has it been stated for viewers edification that the GOP have broken their own records for filibustering legislation and Presidential appointments. And except for a brief reference in a Frontline report, has M$M mentioned the meeting of GOP leaders on President Obama's innauguration day, where it was decided the only thing for the GOP to do was to oppose EVERYTHING Obama and the Dems proposed, and then blame Government inaction on the Dems and specifically Obama. |