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Sun Feb 10, 2013, 01:28 AM

January 2004 Jimmy Breslin's column No Safer with Saddam in Slammer. Scathing.

I have been unable to find the link to the original Newsday article, but I had saved the complete column.

It speaks to what happens when a nation like ours invades another country of no threat based on lies. It eats away at the soul of our morality.

I don't post a lot about Howard Dean anymore though I did at one time. We were quite active in his campaign, met with Jim Dean a number of times. I just felt he could have truly been a leader of the lefter progressives in the party in spite of his many centrist views. He chose to not do so, but some of it still shows now and then.

I think of this war propaganda often when I see the same type of lies and half truths being used in the dismantling of public education.....again in a bipartisan way. It is as dangerous in its own way as the lies about war.

No safer with Saddam in Slammer

To many of us then a very shameful time in America history occurred. A time when someone told the truth in a foreign policy speech, and his own party jumped him and ridiculed and publicly humiliated him.

Breslin's words in part.

January 2, 2004

First, the other day, Howard Dean, candidate for president, said he didn't think that the capture of Saddam Hussein made us any safer in America. The other politicians screamed that he was un-American

..."On the day he (Saddam) was found, an American soldier was killed. After that, 10 more were killed in a week. The Homeland Security raised the alert to orange. Planes coming to New York from Paris, London and Mexico were canceled. New Year's Eve in Times Square was a neon arsenal."

.."Howard Dean then said that maybe he was old-fashioned but he didn't think you could judge or punish Osama bin Laden until you had a trial and found him guilty. That was as controversial as saying that when it rains in Queens, the Van Wyck Expressway gets wet. But suddenly, the Democratic candidates said the statement was atrociously unpatriotic. How can this man Dean say that bin Laden deserves a trial? They said that this was a perfect illustration of Dean talking without thought. And completely un-American, too.

More from Breslin.

In 1945, they had the Nuremberg trial, for Nazis who had killed tens and tens of millions, and had a judge, witnesses, evidence and defense counsel. Because he wants the same thing for bin Laden they say that Dean wants to sell out America. Joseph Leiberman, who is a peripheral candidate now and thus a nasty little man, said that because Dean wants a fair trial Dean is despicable and so weak that he would melt in the face of George W. Bush.

.."Yet all Dean has to do in this big Des Moines debate Sunday is ask each candidate, "Are you in favor of sentencing bin Laden before you have a trial?"

Let them answer in front of a country that is better than they are.

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Tue Feb 12, 2013, 02:45 AM

1. Ho Ho Ho

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There was also an article at the DLC, which is no longer there either. I saved a portion. They actually entitled it Ho Ho Ho

As they did last week when Gov. Dean appeared to dismiss the significance of Saddam Hussein's capture, and then characterized the Clinton administration as an exercise in "damage control," Dean's staffers were quick to do a little damage control of their own. The defamatory reference to the DLC, they explained, was a "joke," a "tongue-in cheek remark" -- a Ho Ho from Ho Ho, so to speak.

If so, it's a joke that's getting pretty old. Dean campaign manager Joe Trippi has been saying this kind of thing throughout the campaign, along with other howlers like asserting that Bill Clinton wrecked the Democratic Party, and that Democratic centrists were cravenly supporting much of George W. Bush's agenda. Dean and Trippi are very smart men, and they know perfectly well that this rap is a central part of the hard left's hallucinatory revisionist interpretation of the Clinton years as one long act of surrender to conservatism.

In any event, Gov. Dean's recent bout of running-mouth disease is a serious problem for Democrats, and is storing up treasure in heaven for Karl Rove, whose opposition research file on Dean must be bulging like Santa's sack of toys.

Never took any of us seriously. Not even the marchers for peace.

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