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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 06:56 AM Jan 2013

Could Scottish, Catalan independence votes reshape Europe?

(Reuters) - The separatist flag of Catalonia - with its yellow and red stripes, blue triangle and white star - was a rare sight on the streets of Barcelona a decade ago. Now, it is almost ubiquitous.

Two thousand km to the north in Scotland, the blue-and-white saltire has always been popular. But that flag too increasingly symbolises something new, that after more than 400 years within the United Kingdom Scotland may be on the verge of demanding a divorce.

For all the focus on the risk of the euro zone falling apart, some suspect this decade may be better remembered as the time when two of Europe's most permanent states began to break apart.

Pro-independence parties in Scotland and Catalonia are preparing for referendums next year that they hope could see their regions secede for good - which some analysts suspect might encourage others in Europe to follow suit.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/01/29/uk-europe-politics-independence-idUKBRE90S0J320130129

The article doesn't mention Venice which also seeks separation from Italy. Whilst its extremely unlikely that Westminster would oppose an EU membership application by Scotland the same cannot be said of either /both Spain and Italy with regard Catalonia and Venice. An application to join the EU requires acceptance by all member states, that has always been the case , and Spain and Italy would veto the applications against which there is no provision for appeal.

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Could Scottish, Catalan independence votes reshape Europe? (Original Post) dipsydoodle Jan 2013 OP
du rec. nt xchrom Jan 2013 #1
The day Scotland achieves independence, SwissTony Jan 2013 #2
The 20th Century was vary bad for empires, the 21st is going to be worse. bemildred Jan 2013 #3
MY GREAT GRANDFATHER CAME FROM N.W. SPAIN ROBROX Jan 2013 #4
Part me thinks it's okay, but part of me thinks it's scary shenmue Jan 2013 #5
As far as I know, there is no talk of Galicia (NW) separating from Spain, Art_from_Ark Feb 2013 #7
Scottish independence. Boston Brony Feb 2013 #6

SwissTony

(2,560 posts)
2. The day Scotland achieves independence,
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 08:08 AM
Jan 2013

I'm turning in my British passport and applying for a Scottish one.

 

ROBROX

(392 posts)
4. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER CAME FROM N.W. SPAIN
Wed Jan 30, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

This area is NOT separating from Spain. My other great grand father came from Wales and it is not separating from the U.K.

I was born here and so were my parents. we do not want to separate from the USA. I live in California and there are GOP members who want to divide California so they can have there own world.

I think the zones that want to separate from their countries are just plain CRAZY or GREEDY. I say let them go and watch them CRASH.....

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
7. As far as I know, there is no talk of Galicia (NW) separating from Spain,
Tue Feb 5, 2013, 04:03 AM
Feb 2013

but ever since I became acquainted with Spanish culture there has been talk of Catalonia (Barcelona area), in NE Spain, separating.

And it's not Wales that is in the news for wanting to separate from the UK-- it is Scotland. And of course, there has long been a group in Northern Ireland that has wanted to separate from the UK as well.

Boston Brony

(1 post)
6. Scottish independence.
Sun Feb 3, 2013, 12:07 AM
Feb 2013

I don't see why so many Scotsmen are bent on "independence". They have more power of England then England has over them.

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