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Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:45 PM

Romney's seven biggest debate lies - The Nation

This is a good summary of the major lies. (look,if you try to keep track of all the lies and all their permutations you'd go crazy)


ROMNEY: “As a matter of fact, oil production is down 14 percent this year on federal land.”

Obama immediately challenged this point, leading to the first of many back-and-forths between the president and Romney. But Obama was right. It’s true that drilling on public lands dropped 14 percent in 2011, but it went up 15 percent the year before. Overall oil production on federal lands is up under Obama—and Romney is being extremely dishonest in singling out the one year that it dropped.

We must pause here to note that—since the oil drilled on federal land in the United States has zero impact on global gas prices, since it’s such a trivial amount—it’s not such a hot idea, and not one Obama should be particularly proud of increasing. But he did increase it.

Also, it should be noted that Romney plainly said later in the debate that “coal jobs are not up.” In fact, 1,500 jobs in the coal industry have been created since Obama took office.

also, for referencing in posts, here's a very good critique of Romney's tax plan bull - from Factcheck.org:

(emphasis my own)
Romney's Impossible Tax Promise - Factcheck.org

[font size="+1"]Tax experts — including one who supports Romney’s plan — say the Republican presidential candidate’s promise to cut individual income tax rates without either favoring the wealthy or losing revenue isn’t mathematically possible.[/font]

That’s the conclusion of the Tax Policy Center in a report the Romney campaign attacked as “biased” (although the campaign previously praised the TPC as “objective,” when it issued a report critical of a rival’s tax plan).

And it’s also the conclusion of an expert from the pro-business Tax Foundation, who states that the Tax Policy Center analysis “correctly identified the Romney plan as a tax cut, at least in static terms, that accrues mainly to high-income earners.”

Romney has proposed very specific tax cuts. He would make the Bush-era income tax cuts and capital gains tax cuts permanent, then cut all income tax rates by an additional 20 percent across the board, repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (which hits primarily upper-income taxpayers), and permanently repeal the estate tax (which currently applies only to estates valued at $5 million or more).

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 05:51 PM

1. Careful now, you are likely to incur the wrath of Tagg defending his claim to his planet/Earth. nt

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Response to patrice (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 07:15 PM

4. Gagg Tagg


Gag him NOW!

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Response to Bill USA (Original post)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:38 PM

2. Will the MSM report on this as much as the "binders of women " story.


"Mathematically Impossible" budget proposal.

should be the headline on every US newspaper and few words to expose show the cuts proposed, money coming in and the difference.
They won't make it up with growth, the only growth will be in Rmoney's tax free accounts. He may even be tempted to bring his money back to US.

As far as drilling on public lands they have leases that they are not drilling on. Like Obama said use them or lose them.

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Response to julian09 (Reply #2)

Thu Oct 18, 2012, 06:55 PM

3. good point. Infotainment abhors 'heavy' content.

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....plus it's easier to report on 'binders' story than one with real content (wouldn't want to strain the reporters cranium voidium).

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