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Mme. Defarge

(8,262 posts)
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:04 PM Apr 2023

Good old Joe Lieberman! Talk me down...

No Labels group raises alarms with third-party presidential preparations
It has money, name-brand political backers and declines to describe either President Biden or Donald Trump as acceptable candidates


By Michael Scherer
Updated April 2, 2023 at 4:51 p.m. EDT|Published April 2, 2023 at 6:00 a.m. EDT


Former senator Joe Lieberman knows better than most the impact third-party bids can have on presidential elections. His 2000 Democratic campaign for vice president fell just 537 Florida votes short of victory, in a state where Ralph Nader, the liberal activist and Green Party nominee, won more than 97,000 votes.

But that didn’t stop the Connecticut Democrat turned independent from joining a meeting Thursday in support of plans by the centrist group No Labels to get presidential ballot lines in all 50 states for 2024. The group calls its effort an “insurance policy” against the major parties nominating two “unacceptable” candidates next year.

Asked if President Biden, his former Senate colleague, would be unacceptable, Lieberman said the answer was uncertain.

“No decision has been made on any of that. But we’re putting ourselves in a position,” Lieberman said. “You know, it might be that we will take our common-sense, moderate, independent platform to him and the Republican candidate and see which one of them is willing to commit to it. And that could lead to, in my opinion, a No Labels endorsement.”

Uncertainty over the $70 million No Labels ballot effort has set off major alarm bells in Democratic circles and raised concerns among Republican strategists, who have launched their own research projects to figure out the potential impacts. As Lieberman spoke, the Arizona Democratic Party filed a lawsuit to block No Labels from ballot access in that state on procedural grounds. Matt Bennett of the centrist Democratic think tank Third Way has argued that the plot is “going to reelect Trump,” and Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign Committee has accused No Labels of wanting “to play the role of spoiler.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/04/02/no-labels-third-party-election/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWJpZCI6IjEwNjYzNDExIiwicmVhc29uIjoiZ2lmdCIsIm5iZiI6MTY4MDQ5NDQwMCwiaXNzIjoic3Vic2NyaXB0aW9ucyIsImV4cCI6MTY4MTc5MDM5OSwiaWF0IjoxNjgwNDk0NDAwLCJqdGkiOiJmYmU4Yzc4NS05OTE2LTRiNmMtYWEzYi1hZjcxOWQ0OWJkMGIiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vcG9saXRpY3MvMjAyMy8wNC8wMi9uby1sYWJlbHMtdGhpcmQtcGFydHktZWxlY3Rpb24vIn0.fsgGFAz_I3iF11plqykqSMkRNwh3B7sDbjS37Fil168

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Good old Joe Lieberman! Talk me down... (Original Post) Mme. Defarge Apr 2023 OP
Lieberman is why we don't have a public option in Obamacare. gab13by13 Apr 2023 #1
(The selection of) Lieberman is why we didn't have Al Gore marybourg Apr 2023 #6
That was the worst decision Al Gore ever made. thucythucy Apr 2023 #10
Absolutely. And like McCain's choice of Palin, marybourg Apr 2023 #11
It's a toss-up for worst MurrayDelph Apr 2023 #20
Lieberman: Another one who should just go away. LoisB Apr 2023 #2
Agreed Rebl2 Apr 2023 #16
Thought that bad penny was out of the game but hard to know which major party would be hurt most dutch777 Apr 2023 #3
Elon isn't a natural born citizen, he'll have to wait for the 61st Amendment. Shipwack Apr 2023 #9
The label is "assholes" NewHendoLib Apr 2023 #4
He's only 81. Why would you think he'd be dead? jimfields33 Apr 2023 #7
Because I've not heard about, read about or thought about him NewHendoLib Apr 2023 #8
Understand. I didn't think you had malice at all. jimfields33 Apr 2023 #14
I still want to spit on the floor when I hear his name. davsand Apr 2023 #5
If Joe Lieberman is involved, it's an attempt to screw the Democratic Party Ray Bruns Apr 2023 #12
This did not help Mme. Defarge Apr 2023 #13
Absolutely! Rebl2 Apr 2023 #17
Meh. Much ado about nothing, especially in regards to Lieberman. Behind the Aegis Apr 2023 #15
Fuck Joe Lieberman. BigDemVoter Apr 2023 #18
He's still wasting oxygen?? niyad Apr 2023 #19
Gawd, I HATE this: "our common-sense, moderate, independent platform" Grins Apr 2023 #21

dutch777

(3,210 posts)
3. Thought that bad penny was out of the game but hard to know which major party would be hurt most
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:16 PM
Apr 2023

"Centrist" does not well define where a new party entity would be on guns, abortion, immigration and other hot button issues for the Repugs. Same sort of questions like Obamacare for the Dems. And also who would they get to run. Can't believe it would be Lieberman but eLoon Musk may be open for it.

Shipwack

(2,262 posts)
9. Elon isn't a natural born citizen, he'll have to wait for the 61st Amendment.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 01:30 PM
Apr 2023

Right after Taco Bell wins the Franchise Wars.

NewHendoLib

(60,145 posts)
4. The label is "assholes"
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:29 PM
Apr 2023

Surprised to read he lives still.

"Common sense, independent, moderate" all words used as dog whistles by repubs.

Nice, Joe. Now just go away.

NewHendoLib

(60,145 posts)
8. Because I've not heard about, read about or thought about him
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:50 PM
Apr 2023

In seeming decades

My comment was not meant to be ageist. I just thought he was gone.

davsand

(13,424 posts)
5. I still want to spit on the floor when I hear his name.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 12:33 PM
Apr 2023

I can only think of a couple other pols I dislike as much.




Laura

Behind the Aegis

(54,420 posts)
15. Meh. Much ado about nothing, especially in regards to Lieberman.
Mon Apr 3, 2023, 04:55 PM
Apr 2023

He is nothing more than a boogeyman on the left. He has no measurable pull or influence. And, in reading the article, seems there are quite a few other big names, but somehow, they don't warrant the same fear. Hmmmm.

Grins

(7,481 posts)
21. Gawd, I HATE this: "our common-sense, moderate, independent platform"
Tue Apr 4, 2023, 01:15 AM
Apr 2023

After all these years he’s still clueless. He thinks that’s a winning message, a winning solution leading to seashells and balloons!

Are Republicans paying for this?

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