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Uncle Joe

(58,328 posts)
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 12:31 PM Sep 2022

'He's done': how Donald Trump's legal woes have just gotten a lot worse



Donald Trump’s legal perils have become insurmountable and could snuff out the former US president’s hopes of an election-winning comeback, according to political analysts and legal experts.

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“He’s done,” said Allan Lichtman, a history professor at American University, in Washington, who has accurately predicted every presidential election since 1984. “He’s got too many burdens, too much baggage to be able to run again even presuming he escapes jail, he escapes bankruptcy. I’m not sure he’s going to escape jail.”

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Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor at Harvard University, noted that the civil component “involves things of particular significance to Trump and his family and his organisation, namely their ability to defraud the public, to defraud banks, to defraud insurance companies, and to continue to subsist through corruption. Without all of that corruption, the entire Trump empire is involved in something like meltdown.

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Kurt Bardella, an adviser to the Democratic National Committee, said: “If the best defence you have for your conduct is: if you hold me accountable, there will be violence, that sounds like someone who has no business being either in public service or being outside of jail.”

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/sep/21/donald-trump-lawsuit-new-york-investigation

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'He's done': how Donald Trump's legal woes have just gotten a lot worse (Original Post) Uncle Joe Sep 2022 OP
Inshallah... bahboo Sep 2022 #1
May it be so! niyad Sep 2022 #2
People keep calling for Traitor Tot to be jailed -- NO -- he needs to be in prison. OMGWTF Sep 2022 #3
I wouldn't trust him to clean my toilet. panader0 Sep 2022 #12
With a toothbrush... japple Sep 2022 #13
With his own toothbrush. n/t spike jones Sep 2022 #17
LOCK HIM UP! joshdawg Sep 2022 #4
i hope the corporate media is listening to this. barbtries Sep 2022 #5
They aren't Cosmocat Sep 2022 #6
I'm sure if Obama had attempted a coup d'etat in 2012, stole top secret documents, Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #8
right? barbtries Sep 2022 #21
I have a feeling that one morning I will wake up and discover that TFG was indicted, surrendered, Pepsidog Sep 2022 #7
I think his bestie Putie should conscript him into his army. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #10
Trump is such a skilled warrior, Aristus Sep 2022 #22
All due respect to Lichtman Cosmocat Sep 2022 #9
My own gut feeling is Uncle Joe Sep 2022 #11
Except that if he runs for office GenThePerservering Sep 2022 #14
Let me know when anyone with any actual power says this quakerboy Sep 2022 #15
Trump is a useful idiot to the Christian right fascist cabal. Initech Sep 2022 #16
i don't care for smartypants Kurt Bardella but Laurence & Lichtman are great authorities to heed onetexan Sep 2022 #18
It reads like a stand-up prognosticators' comedy club material from 2017. jaxexpat Sep 2022 #19
He doesn't have a political agenda so it's not terrorism IronLionZion Sep 2022 #20

OMGWTF

(3,949 posts)
3. People keep calling for Traitor Tot to be jailed -- NO -- he needs to be in prison.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 01:49 PM
Sep 2022

Cleaning toilets every fking day until he is DEAD.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
5. i hope the corporate media is listening to this.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:00 PM
Sep 2022

i'm sick of hearing pundits defaulting him to another candidacy in 2024.

Sky Jewels

(7,049 posts)
8. I'm sure if Obama had attempted a coup d'etat in 2012, stole top secret documents,
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:13 PM
Sep 2022

carried out Putin's orders, tried to undermine Ukraine, ran an unimaginably corrupt business empire for decades, scammed untold rubes, sexually assaulted many women, and so on, that the corporate media would have still considered him a legit candidate for a second term.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
7. I have a feeling that one morning I will wake up and discover that TFG was indicted, surrendered,
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:13 PM
Sep 2022

and taken before a judge to enter a guilty plea, and sentenced in a pre-arranged deal. Rachel spoke of this several weeks ago about how Agnew entered a guilty plea moments after a new VP was sworn in. I’m starting to believe he will be held somewhat accountable but I don’t believe they will perp walk a former POTUS. It will be done quickly and quietly. And part of the deal will be he can never hold office again.

Sky Jewels

(7,049 posts)
10. I think his bestie Putie should conscript him into his army.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:16 PM
Sep 2022

Trump is 76, so 11 years over the top age of Russian soldiers, but Vlad would probably make an exception, ya know, because Trump is such a buffed warrior and all.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
22. Trump is such a skilled warrior,
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 06:15 PM
Sep 2022

he managed to graft a Soviet-designed RPG onto an American M-60 machine gun. Those are some mad skills...

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
9. All due respect to Lichtman
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:14 PM
Sep 2022

but, given we never before had a brain eating, begging to overthrow the country into a full out chrisofascist idiocracy party, unless he actually IS indicted, he will run and will be a heavy favorite to win the nomination, because just as the last time there will be dozens of these lunatics running and he will bully his way into a big enough portion of them to win the nomination, some of them will act all high and mighty for a short time, but when faced with the spectre of whoever the D is winning, they will say they have no other choice than this idiot, and it will be a coin flip like it was the last two times.

Uncle Joe

(58,328 posts)
11. My own gut feeling is
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:21 PM
Sep 2022

it will become crystal clear to ever increasing numbers of those on the fringe that they're speeding down a dead end street in regards to following the beast.

GenThePerservering

(1,797 posts)
14. Except that if he runs for office
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:49 PM
Sep 2022

the GOP might collapse from infighting. Gropers are never far from backstabbing at the best of times.

He could probably just run while he's IN jail, too, though.

quakerboy

(13,918 posts)
15. Let me know when anyone with any actual power says this
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 02:57 PM
Sep 2022

Opinions are a dime a dozen, especially in regards to the former inhabitant of the whitehouse.

they mean very little until someone actually has a real consequence or legal reprecussion.

Initech

(100,054 posts)
16. Trump is a useful idiot to the Christian right fascist cabal.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:01 PM
Sep 2022

When he becomes too much of a liability, like he is now, he'll be tossed aside for someone much scarier.

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
18. i don't care for smartypants Kurt Bardella but Laurence & Lichtman are great authorities to heed
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:25 PM
Sep 2022

the jackass & his crooked spawns are done, because the legal liabilities of misrepresenting facts on loan documents and whatever else will be YUUUGGGEEE.

jaxexpat

(6,813 posts)
19. It reads like a stand-up prognosticators' comedy club material from 2017.
Thu Sep 22, 2022, 03:30 PM
Sep 2022

So prescient, those comedians.

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