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Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:31 AM

13 investigations, no court-martials:

Here's how the US Navy and Marine Corps quietly discharged white supremacists
Will Carless, USA TODAY
Published 8:00 AM EDT Apr. 13, 2021 Updated 2:34 PM EDT Apr. 14, 2021

For decades, the U.S. Navy and Marine Corps have quietly kicked out some of the worst white supremacists in their ranks, offering them administrative discharges that leave no public record of their hateful activity, a USA TODAY review of Navy documents found.

The documents, obtained via a public records request by the open government advocacy group American Oversight, detail 13 major investigations into white supremacist activity in the Navy and Marine Corps over more than 20 years. They show a pattern in which military leaders chose to deal with personnel involved in extremism by dismissing them in ways that would not attract public attention.

In the early hours of Dec. 10, 2000, three white men left a neo-Nazi rally and headed to downtown Jacksonville, Florida. They were looking for a Black person to beat up, according to the Navy records. On Main Street, they found John Joseph Newsome, 44. They beat him severely with their fists, boots and a broken bottle, shouting “Kill the n-----,” according to the documents.

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The trio were soon arrested and charged with aggravated battery causing great bodily harm and committing a hate crime. All three pleaded guilty to felonies and were sentenced to varying terms in the Duval County jail.

Fix and Laskey faced another investigation. They were enlisted members of the U.S. Navy, serving at nearby bases. The two sailors never faced military charges, which probably would have resulted in them being dishonorably discharged if they had been found guilty. Instead, the Navy dismissed them via administrative discharges. Their only punishment from the Navy for almost beating a man to death in a racially motivated hate crime was to lose their jobs, documents show.

Fix and Laskey entered civilian life with barely a blot on their military record. Fix fared even better: Because he had cooperated with civilian prosecutors, the felony conviction never went on his record.


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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:34 AM

1. MIlitary & Law enforcement must aggressively identify and rid their organizations of these scum.

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:27 PM

7. did they lose their pensions and VA benefits?

What does an administrative discharge mean in terms of pensions and benefits?

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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 10:40 AM

2. Racists protecting their own

Let's face it, racists are attracted to the Armed Forces where they feel they can have some power. I'm willing to bet, those on those boards share their views.

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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 12:52 PM

3. Pitiful and infuriating, all at once.

Nice job, Navy.

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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:12 PM

4. These softball responses reveal the original sin of their founding-- pro-white, male dominant

win-lose, might-makes-right -- they can only be damped down but not erased. Inherent to the identity of the military is the belief that all humans are not born equal.

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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:26 PM

5. This has been the military's policy for a long time...

...that is, if civilian authorities investigate & prosecute a crime, the military doesn't. If the enlisted person is found guilty & sentenced by civilian authorities, the military imposes a relatively mild punishment, like a less than honorable discharge (but not dishonorable) with no option to reenlist. (The opposite is also true, that is, if civil authorities don't prosecute the case, the military will.)

I think there's only been one sort-of-exception to this in 100 or so years & that was a case where an enlisted person was charged with murdering his wife & was acquitted at trial. Later, DNA evidence became available that proved he was the killer. Civilian authorities didnt re-try him (double jeopardy concerns probably) so the military did.

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Response to Fla Dem (Original post)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:26 PM

6. The Army does this too, and for a good reason

A court-martial takes a lot of time, and forces a number of personnel (in the case of a General, it’s a JAG officer as what would be called a judge in the civilian world, five officers from other units, two JAG officers serving as attorneys, and several enlisted troops) to stop leading good soldiers just to deal with some fuckup.

An administrative separation can be done in less than a day and the files to do it are already on your personnel office’s computer. Once the commander decides to throw your ass out, S-1 can have the paperwork prepared for signature while you’re packing up your room under guard and after that’s done they drive you to Division for final outprocessing, drive you straight to the nearest airport and ship you off.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #6)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:30 PM

8. Expediency doesn't equate to justice.

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Response to NoMoreRepugs (Reply #8)

Sat Apr 17, 2021, 01:46 PM

9. No, but it does make an impression on the rest of the unit

If Private Snuffy is seen at a Proud Boys rally on Saturday afternoon and he’s then seen dragging his duffel bag down the hall between a company commander and an MP, preferably both big black guys for full effect, it will convince everyone else in battalion that joining the Proud Boys is not a good idea.

Now understand, if Private Snuffy went to the rally and did something besides just stand there worshipping Trump, like beating up a minority or bashing out the window of a car because there was a Biden sticker on it, they WILL court-martial the fuck out of him.

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