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Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:26 PM

Republican delusion -- not disinformation -- is the bigger danger to American democracy


Republican delusion not disinformation is the bigger danger to American democracy
Republicans voters aren't just delusional even more frightening is how they've turned on democracy

By AMANDA MARCOTTE
APRIL 6, 2021 4:59PM


(Salon) Perhaps it was inevitable, but now it's certain: Three months out from the violent insurrection Donald Trump incited at the U.S. Capitol, the majority of Republican voters have settled on a story that they can use to justify supporting what Trump and the rioters did. According to a poll released this week by Reuters and Ipsos, belief in conspiracy theories about the insurrection is widespread among Republican voters, with 55% claiming to "agree" or "somewhat agree" that the rioters were really "antifa" in disguise. Another 51% of Republican respondents agree or somewhat agree that the rioters who look to have killed one police officer, violently assaulted hundreds of others, and were chanting "hang Mike Pence" as they ransacked the Capitol "were mostly peaceful, law-abiding Americans." And a full 60% agree or somewhat agree with Trump's utterly false claim that Joe Biden stole the 2020 election.

These numbers are, needless to say, terrifying, precisely because they capture a level of delusion that is truly hard to imagine.

It's not clear how much overlap there is among adherents to the various conspiracy theories. It could be a situation where half of Republicans have thrown in with the "antifa hoax" lie and another half with the "not that violent" lie. Or it could be that a lot of Republicans believe both at the same time, even though the conspiracy theories contradict each other, as there's no point in screaming that "antifa did it" if you're also denying the well-documented violence of the insurrection. But research has long shown that conspiracy theorists don't care if their theories contradict each other. For instance, people who believe Princess Diana was murdered are also more likely to believe that she's still secretly alive. Conspiracy theories are rarely about a literal, sincere understanding of the facts, but closer to religious fables or myths comforting narratives that a person tells themselves in order to justify an underlying belief system.

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In a sense, then, it's questionable whether Republican voters really "believe" that Trump really won the election, or that antifa was behind the insurrection, or that the insurrection wasn't really violent. At least, they may not believe it in the usual sense that we use the word "believe" to mean a conviction that a thing is true, such as believing the sun will rise in the east or that Prince wrote "When Doves Cry" in one night. Many of them likely are asserting it more as a show of tribal loyalty and, of course, as cover for their more unspeakable but truer beliefs, like the belief that white people are the only people whose votes should really count. As David Graham argued in February at the Atlantic, "Republicans are backing Trump not in spite of the insurrection but because of it." But they know that saying out loud that they want to overthrow democracy is bad. Instead, they cling to conspiracy theories, many of which contradict each other, that are proxies for their real but unspeakable anti-democratic beliefs. ...........(more)

https://www.salon.com/2021/04/06/republican-delusion--not-disinformation--is-the-bigger-danger-to-american-democracy/



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Response to marmar (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:46 PM

1. We are in deep sushi.

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Response to Karadeniz (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:42 PM

3. That's my dream. A bathtub full of sushi and enough high quality sake to go with the whole tub.

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Response to Martin68 (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:52 AM

4. Ichi ban...

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Response to marmar (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:41 PM

2. I'm hoping the trend for Republicans to switch to Independent or even the Democratic Party

will be the death knell for the GOP until they figure out that they have to change policies (or at lest pretend they've changed policy).

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