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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:49 PM

Is Working with the Lincoln Project Sleeping with the Enemy?

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/07/20/is-working-with-the-lincoln-project-sleeping-with-the-enemy

By Nick Paumgarten
July 13, 2020

Heath Eiden, a video producer who volunteered for Walter Mondale’s campaign as a kid, followed the “enemy-of-my-enemy” principle when he shot the new anti-Trump “Betrayed” ad.

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Eiden was torn. On the one hand, work was scarce during the pandemic, and, of course, he abhorred Trump and had been frustrated by the Democrats’ failure to hit back. But, as a dyed-in-the-down Minnesota liberal, he had misgivings about working with what he called “the dark side”—some of the Republican operatives who, by way of rough tactics, had engineered the demise of so many of his favored candidates through the years. Ultimately, though, the enemy-of-my-enemy principle pertained.

The previous week, he’d driven to Minneapolis with his teen-age son, to pay their respects (and shoot some footage) at the memorial for George Floyd. That experience, plus a few days in the suburbs among covid truthers, and an encounter with a waiter making an “I can’t breathe” joke, had only quickened his revulsion. “If it takes working with Republicans to get this fucker out of the White House, fine,” he said.

“What kind of style do you want?” Eiden asked Stevens.

“Think Swift Boat,” Stevens replied.

“I knew exactly what I’d found myself in the middle of,” Eiden recalled.

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swag Jul 13 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 13 #1
wryter2000 Jul 13 #2
The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 13 #3
Salviati Jul 13 #4
Kaiserguy Jul 13 #10
Me. Jul 13 #5
mindem Jul 13 #6
2naSalit Jul 13 #7
Zambero Jul 13 #8
Jirel Jul 13 #9
flotsam Jul 13 #11

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Response to swag (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:53 PM

2. One quibble

Swift Boat was all lies. The Lincoln Project hasn't told a single lie that I'm aware of.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:55 PM

3. You do what you have to do.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 02:58 PM

4. At this stage, it's absolutely not a problem.

After Biden gets elected, and the blue wave sweeps over congress, and the inevitable heel turn comes, and they start attacking Democrats, and democratic initiatives, then that's a different story.

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Response to Salviati (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:24 PM

10. Who are they going to attack for

I doubt that they will ever be welcome in todays Putin/Trump/GOP. One can hope that have seen the light and will become people who are on our side. We could learn from them, lets face it we are not anywhere need as aggressive as they are when it comes to going after the other side and if America is to survive we need to end the current GOP power. Replacing it with a sane version that would work with us would make life easier. Can that happen only time will tell

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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 03:08 PM

5. No

let the people who know them best and helped the Cons get to this point, bring them down

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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 03:19 PM

6. The enemy of my enemy is my friend

Old, but true.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 03:56 PM

7. In a time where all hands on deck is the theme...

Who, exactly, is your enemy? The ones working with you to remedy the situation or those who are the immediate threat?

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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 04:11 PM

8. We both have a common enemy

That being the antithesis of democracy, political philosophies aside. And given the stakes, at this time we do not have the luxury of not "sleeping" with them.

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Response to swag (Original post)

Mon Jul 13, 2020, 05:07 PM

9. Working? No.

Giving money, yes.

Right now they’re doing good work. There is no shame in doing work with the enemy of the enemy, especially if they’re paying.

But giving them money is problematic. That money can be sat on to be turned against a Dem candidate in the future.

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Mon Jul 13, 2020, 06:37 PM

11. Had A discussion elsewhere this weekend regarding Steve Schmidt

I said this "I like Steve and his rant is strikingly on point-but you should know this, as soon as Trump is gone he will spend the rest of his life trying to breathe life into the corpse of the GOP and will until he finds an acceptable version of "Trump Light" and then he will use his considerable intellect to again infect this country with a philosophy that should be anathema to all who believe in true equality-the old GOP never did and a new one never will. As for me I will simply live from election to election until no person self identifying as a Republican can aspire to a position loftier than Dog Catcher."

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