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Wed Jul 8, 2020, 07:37 PM

Opinions The contraception war that just won't end

Given that more than two-thirds of Americans believe, in principle at least, that private health insurance plans should cover contraception, itís strange that we canít seem to settle the matter. You would think a functioning democracy could work this issue out in a reasonable way that respected the rights of women as well as the rights of those with religious objections to contraception.

Instead, the question of whether health plans issued under the Affordable Care Act should cover birth control has been the subject of an ongoing, maximalist culture war. The Supreme Courtís decision on Wednesday will make things worse.

The ruling concerned a Trump administration regulation that allows even publicly traded corporations ó not just family-owned companies ó to deny their female employees this coverage if they have religious objections.

Since most employers seem likely to continue to cover contraception, the decisionís immediate impact may be limited to an estimated 70,000 to 126,000 women, which is little comfort to those who will be affected. And giving large businesses expansive rights to invoke religion to deny employees a particular benefit creates serious dangers. The Trump rule falls far short of balancing legitimately competing interests.

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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 8 OP
Skittles Jul 8 #1
grizzyboy Jul 8 #2
TreasonousBastard Jul 8 #3
BarbD Jul 8 #4
TreasonousBastard Jul 8 #6
Igel Jul 8 #5

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 07:43 PM

1. sickening

the misogyny never ends

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 07:46 PM

2. If Republicans were serious about preventing abortions they would allow free OTC contraceptions

But no they just want to hurt women

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 08:16 PM

3. So many of you just don't get it-- this isn't about contraception or abortion...

It's about

SEX

Dirty, nasty, filthy SEX

Good girls simply do not do it, and if they happen to do their wifely duties, they certainly don't enjoy it.

Making babies is the only only reason for sex. It is not fun, and not to be trifled with.

Ergo, anything that makes sex safer, more fun, or more convenient is evil.


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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:43 PM

4. Did you go to Parochial school like I did?

The primary purpose of marriage is the procreation of children. As I recall pleasure was never mentioned by the priests or nuns.

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Response to BarbD (Reply #4)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:56 PM

6. HA! I went to Missouri Synod Lutheran Schools, and they were dying to...

go back to being Catholic.

Excellent academic standards, but science dropped dead at the biology lab. No such thing as sex ed back in those days. And in the religion classes sex was glossed over.

"You'll be married soon enough and figure it out" seemed to be as far as they got.



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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #3)

Wed Jul 8, 2020, 10:44 PM

5. Oh, it's fun.

Should be fun.

But only within marriage.

Good girls with husbands do it.

Some think "know thyself" should be coupled with "be completely ignorant of your enemy." Knowledge is good. Misattribution is error; error is bad. If I'm going to have a class of secular sin--some people choose sexism, some choose racism--I choose willful lack of knowledge. And follow it by, "Don't be Trump."

As for contraception, either you're married and likely to afford it, or it's wrong and some of them don't think they should be compelled to subsidize it.

From their point, the need for contraception is optional. Why should they be compelled to pay for something that's optional.

Want an interesting discussing, get them talking about endometriosis. Most of them will say birth control pills to manage endo is something they're in favor of; but to prevent pregnancy, not. The Little Sisters would probably nod in assent. On the other hand, their lawyers would say that to agree to birth control for one purpose would require assenting to birth control for any purpose. They'd choose what they believe the lesser of two evils, and let their endo-suffering employees suffer.

But upthread is right. It's only "they hate women" if you define "hating women" in a very specific way, one that most people wouldn't recognize. Which makes you think that perhaps the definition is chosen for the purpose of being able to use the word "hate".

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