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Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:52 PM

Why the Nazis Weren't Socialists

It was in the name of their party, but they lied a lot.

Real historical explanation, not just "because they were bad".

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Reply Why the Nazis Weren't Socialists (Original post)
Odoreida Feb 19 OP
jberryhill Feb 19 #1
ExciteBike66 Feb 19 #2
Thomas Hurt Feb 19 #3
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 20 #5
ck4829 Feb 20 #4
Odoreida Feb 20 #6
MosheFeingold Feb 20 #7

Response to Odoreida (Original post)

Wed Feb 19, 2020, 01:54 PM

1. Bah, next you'll try to tell me that the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't democratic!


The safe bet you can make about countries with the word "Democratic" in their name is that they aren't.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Wed Feb 19, 2020, 02:13 PM

2. It's like the rule about how when Trump says something you can bet the opposite is true...

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Response to ExciteBike66 (Reply #2)

Wed Feb 19, 2020, 03:19 PM

3. The christofascist spread this lie all of time on the internet.

conservatism can't possibly be abused or be corrupt. There are no extremists on the right.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #1)

Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:33 AM

5. Well everyone knows

Saddam Hussein's Elite Republican Guard were members of the GOP.

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Response to Odoreida (Original post)

Thu Feb 20, 2020, 03:52 AM

4. K&R. Democratic Socialists were the only ones who voted against Hitler's enabling act

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 20, 2020, 10:55 AM

6. +1

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Response to Odoreida (Original post)

Thu Feb 20, 2020, 12:01 PM

7. Left vs. Right

Is really a stupid comparison, especially since they mean pretty different things depending on where you are.

I've always thought a 2 or 3 axis system would be much more useful -- to use an old Dungeons & Dragons idea of lawful vs. chaotic and good vs. evil.

Fascism requires complete government control --- the Nazis happened to use socialism (or at least socialist talk) to achieve complete government control. But it just as easily could have been a quasi-feudal religious monarchy (Japan) or some sort of quasi-cronie-capitalist (Italy).

This is why I am a small-government social liberal.

Any government big and powerful enough to do everything is powerful enough that Donald Trump (or Hitler or Stalin) can do anything -- and politics attracts really crappy people, both sides of the aisle. I'd like to de-power all of them.

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