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Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:19 PM

One Of USA's Largest Newspapers Drops Editorial Bomb On Trump By Endorsing Impeachment





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Posted on Sat, Dec 7th, 2019 by Sean Colarossi


One Of America’s Largest Newspapers Drops Editorial Bomb On Trump By Endorsing Impeachment



The Los Angeles Times, the third most circulated newspaper in the United States, dropped an editorial bomb on Donald Trump on Saturday, calling for the president’s impeachment and urging Republicans to join in the effort.

In the piece, entitled ‘We’ve seen enough. Trump should be impeached’, the LA Times editorial board writes that they were a “reluctant convert to the impeachment cause,” but that they were given no choice when examining “the overwhelming evidence that Trump perverted U.S. foreign policy for his own political gain.”

More from the stinging LA Times impeachment endorsement:

The House of Representatives’ inquiry into President Trump’s actions on Ukraine is not yet complete, but the evidence produced over the last two months is more than sufficient to persuade us that he should be impeached. Witness after witness testified that the president held up desperately needed, congressionally approved aid to Ukraine to extort a personal political favor for himself. In so doing, Trump flagrantly abused the power of his office.




Holding the president accountable for gross abuse of power is the business of Congress. The House should get on with that business by writing articles of impeachment that make it clear to the Senate — and the American people — why the extraordinary remedy of impeachment is necessary. And Republicans who complain that the process is partisan could easily rectify that situation by abandoning their lockstep loyalty to Trump and looking at the facts.

Republicans, not Democrats, are turning impeachment into a partisan farce

One of the main Republican impeachment arguments is that the process shouldn’t be taken seriously because it’s simply a partisan exercise led by the Democrats to go after Donald Trump....
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Reply One Of USA's Largest Newspapers Drops Editorial Bomb On Trump By Endorsing Impeachment (Original post)
riversedge Dec 7 OP
dewsgirl Dec 7 #1
hlthe2b Dec 7 #2
riversedge Dec 7 #4
mucifer Dec 7 #7
diva77 Dec 7 #10
Hekate Dec 7 #19
diva77 Dec 7 #26
riversedge Dec 7 #3
calimary Dec 7 #9
oldsoftie Dec 7 #14
NBachers Dec 7 #18
warmfeet Dec 7 #25
CrispyQ Dec 8 #29
Beartracks Dec 7 #5
dalton99a Dec 7 #6
robbob Dec 7 #12
procon Dec 7 #8
Hekate Dec 7 #20
AncientGeezer Dec 8 #27
Zorro Dec 7 #11
robbob Dec 7 #15
Jake Stern Dec 7 #13
Martin Eden Dec 7 #16
LiberalLovinLug Dec 7 #17
Pacifist Patriot Dec 7 #21
lastlib Dec 7 #24
OhNo-Really Dec 7 #22
Marcuse Dec 7 #23
packman Dec 8 #28

Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:21 PM

1. BOOM! Finally.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:24 PM

2. Boston Globe did too. I believe LAT is owned by a conservative (conglomerate)...?

On edit, it seems it was sold more recently to a Chinese American billionaire, so perhaps not?

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:29 PM

4. Thanks. regarding B. globe. I did not know that. I think I read that la time

when bought out a while ago.....was more conservative now. but my cobwebs are growing....da

#FlushTheTurdOnNovemberThird #MakeAmericaFlushAgain

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:43 PM

7. Yeah, corporate media sucks. For now Jeff Bezos is allowing WaPo to be anti conservative

Just makes me sick that people can have so much power.

I guess it was that way with William Randolph Hearst.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:02 PM

10. LA Times is owned by a biotech billionaire Patrick Soon-Shiong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Soon-Shiong

Patrick Soon-Shiong (born July 29, 1952) is an American surgeon, billionaire businessman, and philanthropist. He is the inventor of the drug Abraxane, which became known for its efficacy against lung, breast, and pancreatic cancer.[1] Soon-Shiong is the founder of NantWorks, a network of health and technology startups;[2] an adjunct professor of surgery and executive director of the Wireless Health Institute at the University of California, Los Angeles; and a visiting professor at the Imperial College London and Dartmouth College.[3][4][5] Soon-Shiong has published more than 100 scientific papers and has more than 230 issued patents worldwide on advancements spanning numerous fields in technology and medicine.[5]

Soon-Shiong is the chairman of the Chan Soon-Shiong Family Foundation, the Chan Soon-Shiong Institute for Advanced Health, and the Healthcare Transformation Institute.[2] He has been a minority owner of the Los Angeles Lakers since 2010, and since June 2018, he has been the owner and Executive Chairman of the Los Angeles Times and The San Diego Union-Tribune.[6] In April 2016, the Los Angeles Times reported him to be one of the highest-paid CEOs of 2015.[7] As of September 2019, Soon-Shiong was estimated by Forbes as having a net worth of US$6.6billion.[1]
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Bravo, LA Times -- however, I wish they had waited for the Sunday edition which is more widely circulated!!

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Response to diva77 (Reply #10)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:16 PM

19. It is not in today's edition. I looked when I saw this post. Then it popped up on my cell-phone feed

I assume it will be in the Sunday LA Times -- what we have now is just the electronic version.

Also, for those who express concern and animus toward the ownership of my daily paper: it has been doing splendidly under its new ownership, authoring in-depth articles on topics such as the fate of the Marshall Islanders due to both radiation poisoning and climate change -- and then follow-ups. It is well on its way to regaining its status as a great regional newspaper of national importance.

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Response to Hekate (Reply #19)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 07:12 PM

26. In the digital version, it is in today's (Saturday) LA Times

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-12-07/impeach-president-trump

Editorial: We’ve seen enough. Trump should be impeached

By The Times Editorial Board
Dec. 7, 2019
6 AM

The House of Representatives’ inquiry into President Trump’s actions on Ukraine is not yet complete, but the evidence produced over the last two months is more than sufficient to persuade us that he should be impeached. Witness after witness testified that the president held up desperately needed, congressionally approved aid to Ukraine to extort a personal political favor for himself. In so doing, Trump flagrantly abused the power of his office.
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But those concerns must yield to the overwhelming evidence that Trump perverted U.S. foreign policy for his own political gain. That sort of misconduct is outrageous and corrosive of democracy. It can’t be ignored by the House, and it merits a full trial by the Senate on whether to remove him from office.
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Finally, we continue to believe that the House should consider an article of impeachment addressing the actions Trump took to thwart or hobble special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation. Mueller did not conclude that Trump committed obstruction of justice, but neither did he exonerate the president. Atty. Gen. William Barr and then-Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein subsequently concluded that the evidence developed by Mueller was “not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.” But in deciding whether Trump’s attempted interference amounted to an impeachable offense, Congress could well come to a different conclusion. And the allegation that Trump obstructed justice in the Mueller investigation involves the same sort of disrespect for legal norms as his defiant actions toward Congress’ inquiry into the Ukraine matter.
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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:27 PM

3. #FlushTheTurdOnNovemberThird #MakeAmericaFlushAgain

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:02 PM

9. I'd flush that Orange Turd 10 or 15 times!

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Response to calimary (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:05 PM

14. Big ones usually take several flushes.......

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:59 PM

18. Flush Trump

<a href="https://imgur.com/aE2jHhc"><img src="" title="source: imgur.com" /></a>

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Response to NBachers (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 06:45 PM

25. The stench has been unbearable since 2015.

Please flush 10 to 15 times, just to make sure.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 11:16 AM

29. LOL. Those are so good!



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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:29 PM

5. Republicans who know better are sitting on their hands...

... so that only Democrats are faithfully executing the duties of their office by rightly pursuing an impeachment inquiry; and it is in this manner that Republicans then claim that the whole effort is partisan because -- Look! -- only Democrats are seeking impeachment.

This Republican tactic is indeed VERY partisan.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:39 PM

6. Kick

Any articles of impeachment approved by the House will act as the political equivalent of an indictment, setting forth specific instances of misconduct; the Senate would then convene a trial to decide whether Trump should be expelled from the presidency. It’s obvious that at least one article should cite Trump’s improper approaches to Ukraine, whether they are described as “bribery” (an offense specifically mentioned in the Constitution’s impeachment clause) or abuse of power. A separate article would be warranted for his outrageous efforts to obstruct Congress by keeping information from the impeachment inquiry.

Finally, we continue to believe that the House should consider an article of impeachment addressing the actions Trump took to thwart or hobble special counsel Robert S. Mueller III’s investigation. Mueller did not conclude that Trump committed obstruction of justice, but neither did he exonerate the president. Atty. Gen. William Barr and then-Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein subsequently concluded that the evidence developed by Mueller was “not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction-of-justice offense.” But in deciding whether Trump’s attempted interference amounted to an impeachable offense, Congress could well come to a different conclusion. And the allegation that Trump obstructed justice in the Mueller investigation involves the same sort of disrespect for legal norms as his defiant actions toward Congress’ inquiry into the Ukraine matter.

Trump’s defenders argue that the evidence against him on Ukraine is incomplete and thus inconclusive. They’re correct that some potentially important witnesses — including acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, who reportedly put the hold on the Ukrainian aid, and former national security advisor John Bolton, who reportedly objected to the efforts to persuade Ukraine to conduct the investigations — haven’t testified. But that is because Trump has objected to such testimony. Delaying impeachment because of no-show witnesses would reward Trump’s obstructionism.

Besides, as the president himself tweeted on Thursday: “If you are going to impeach me, do it now, fast, so we can have a fair trial in the Senate, and so that our country can get back to business.”



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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:32 PM

12. Fair trial? Yeah right...

by a group of lock step senators, several of whom have declared, without even reviewing the evidence, that they will support the Dumpster...

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 01:48 PM

8. I'm actually surprised.

Their views are largely conservative, so this stand for impeachment is all the more telling. I hope this will move their right bent readership to take a new look at impeaching trump.

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Response to procon (Reply #8)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 04:25 PM

20. They've done one editorial after another about Trump this year

They've done feature articles on LA homelessness that are agonizing in their thoroughness. I referenced the Marshall Islanders upthread -- I knew that all atolls are under threat and will drown soon. I didn't know that America's nuclear testing had poisoned all generations of Marshallese since then.

I really don't care if someone is "conservative" as long as they are honest and humane, and unafraid of telling us the truth.

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Response to procon (Reply #8)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 07:30 AM

27. The La Times has whacked the taterhead since he was nominated.

They endorsed SoS Clinton and Harris in '16...this is not a surprise.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:27 PM

15. The comments section is discouraging.

Assuming it’s not mostly bots, it seems many people think rRump is doing a great job. One reader actually took issue with the phrase “subverting US foreign policy”, claiming that, since the president SETS foreign policy it is impossible for a president to SUBVERT foreign policy.

Sounds like a short step away from saying the president is the law, and therefore cannot break the law. I believe he literally COULD shoot someone on 5th avenue and his followers wouldn’t bat an eye.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 02:54 PM

13. Want to go over just to see how many commenters are threatening to "cancel their subscriptions"

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:29 PM

16. "Republicans, not Democrats, are turning impeachment into a partisan farce"

THAT is their primary strategy.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 03:42 PM

17. "FAKE NEWS LIBRUL DEEP STATE PINKO DEMOCRATIC RAG!"

(Owned by wealthy conservative billionaires)


Didn't the vast majority of papers endorse Hillary last time? Nowadays half the country regards what they see as a "fake news" endorsement as only confirming they should believe the opposite.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 05:00 PM

21. The concluding sentence of the LA Times editorial is MUST READ!

It is a <BOOM> moment. Seriously.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 05:46 PM

24. Here it is:

Holding the president accountable for gross abuse of power is the business of Congress. The House should get on with that business by writing articles of impeachment that make it clear to the Senate — and the American people — why the extraordinary remedy of impeachment is necessary. And Republicans who complain that the process is partisan could easily rectify that situation by abandoning their lockstep loyalty to Trump and looking at the facts.

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Response to riversedge (Original post)

Sat Dec 7, 2019, 05:09 PM

23. "The failing LA Times..."

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:12 AM

28. Damn, you beat me to it

You just KNOW those will be his exact words when asked about the LA Times at a presser.

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