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Thu Oct 31, 2019, 01:50 AM

Narcissists: 'Horrible People But Happy,' & On The Rise

Sean Coughlan, BBC News, Oct. 29, 2019. Narcissists might have "grandiose" delusions about their own importance and an absence of "shame" - but psychologists say they are also likely to be happier than most people. An ongoing study of narcissism by researchers at Queen's University Belfast has found such people might infuriate others but are less likely to be stressed or depressed.

Psychologist Dr Kostas Papageorgiou says negative responses to narcissism can overlook the positive benefits to the narcissists themselves. The researchers have been trying to understand why narcissism appears to be "on the rise in modern societies" - in politics, social media and celebrity culture - if it is also seen as being "socially toxic".

'Little shame or guilt': They define narcissists as being likely to "engage in risky behaviour, hold an unrealistic superior view of themselves, are over-confident, show little empathy for others, and have little shame or guilt". With such negative qualities, the researchers wanted to know why narcissism seemed to be so visible and often rewarded rather than penalised.



Narcissism is one of the "dark traits" identified by psychologists, alongside psychopathy, Machiavellianism and sadism.

But Dr Papageorgiou's research with 700 adults suggests even though it might be bad for society, it seems to be beneficial for individual narcissists.
◾Narcissists might be irritating, but they're also successful
◾Self-promoters do nothing but still get ahead at work
◾Is narcissism on the rise?

They might have trampled over others and left a trail of emotional damage around them - but narcissists also seem to be insulated against feeling bad about themselves. They have lower levels of stress and are less likely to see life as stressful - with their self-confidence and heightened sense of self-importance appearing to be "protective" qualities.

'Preoccupation with power': This follows the Belfast team's previous work, which indicated narcissists were more likely to succeed in work and in their social lives - with a "mental toughness" that helped them overcome rejection or disappointment.

Dr Papageorgiou also looked at how different dimensions of narcissism could have different emotional outcomes. Those narcissists with strong "grandiose" characteristics can have a "preoccupation with status and power" and an "over-inflated sense of importance", he says...

https://www.bbc.com/news/education-50184281



- Narcissism seems to be on the rise, whether in social media or politics.

ADD: Attention craving, manipulative. Some TOP Narcissists:
https://www.depressionalliance.org/famous-narcissists/

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 02:59 AM

1. I'm sure it is easier to be happier if you don't give a fuck about ANYONE ELSE

seriously

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Response to Skittles (Reply #1)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:14 AM

2. Their self love is paramount. Also attention-craving, manipulative,

and deceitful. UGly and dangerous.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Thu Oct 31, 2019, 03:51 PM

3. Key word: they "appear" happier than other people.

They never know what happiness is. They are trapped in a never-ending quest to be idolized. As far as being "successful", I suspect that is success measured by income or influence. Is someone who does not have a single true friend "successful?"

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:16 PM

4. Whenever I MUST be with my ex husband he tries to launch into a discussion about his

narcissism and attempts to deal with it. Of course, this is just more posturing "Look at me, I am trying to deal with my narcissism" which is kinda funny when you think about it. I shut him down last time by interrupting him and telling him "You know, this is boring me."

You shoulda seen the look on his face. He was shocked as if to say "how can anybody be bored when I'm talking about myself?" He doesn't see the irony in that.

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 1, 2019, 02:31 PM

5. Many reek of 'self love,' obnoxious and lethal at times

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