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Sun Apr 14, 2019, 09:43 PM

NOT FOR SALE $: USPS Workers Reject WH Plan To Privatize Postal Service; April 15- Tax Day Action

"KEEP IT, IT'S YOURS!" Postal Workers' Message to Public Denounces Trump Privatization Plan. "DON'T SELL THIS NATIONAL TREASURE to private interests that will charge more for less service," union says before Tax Day events. Andrea Germanos, Common Dreams, April 14, 2019.

U.S. Postal Service workers will hold a day of action Monday to reject a Trump White House proposal to privatize the service. "Our message to the public is quite simple. 'The United States Postal Service—Keep it. It's yours!'" said Mark Dimondstein, president of the American Postal Workers Union (APWU), in a statement.
> "Don't sell this national treasure to private interests that will charge more for less service."
> The workers' message, which they plan on delivering outside over 100 locations across the nation, is actually twofold. In addition to rejecting privatization—as well as a "franchising the mailbox" proposal floated by a White House task force, they want to dispel the myth that the USPS is funded through tax dollars.

*It's a timely message given that Monday is Tax Day. Putting the postal service in private hands would be bad news for customers, who'd face service cutbacks and higher prices, the union says. To amplify its message, the union also just released a video entitled "We Deliver Almost Anything." "The post office will take almost anything but your tax dollars. But some in the government want to sell off the post office to private corporations. That'd be the end of delivering almost anything, anywhere at a cost you can afford," the narrator says.




-> WATCH USPS VIDEO: "We Deliver Almost Anything" ! Support the US Postal Service- It's YOURS!

To explain the looming threat, the U.S. Mail Not for Sale campaign, a project of APWU and the National Association of Letter Carriers, states: On June 21, 2018, the White House's Office of Management and Budget (OMB) released a restructuring proposal for the federal government. The proposal, "Delivering Government Solutions in the 21st Century," delivered misinformation without ever consulting the United States Postal Service (USPS) and, if implemented, would end regular mail and package services at one affordable price, delivered to all 157 million addresses six days a week—regardless of geographic location. The OMB proposal takes direct aim at the USPS under the guise of reforming and structuring for the 21st century." [...]

The White House USPS Task Force Report, released on Dec. 4, outlines the first step of the OMB's privatization proposal—restructuring the USPS to fatten it up for sale. Rejecting the task force report, Dimondstein wrote last month: Recommendations like shuttering post offices, reducing delivery days, and relinquishing the sanctity of the mail that mailers and household have come to trust and rely upon are unlikely to be the commercial panacea the task force suggests they may be.

> It's a classic death spiral scenario and should be rejected by everyone—mailers, organizations, and regular household users—that relies on the Postal Service's affordable, nationwide network to market, exchange goods and information and conduct their affairs. It should be especially concerning to the most vulnerable across the country, especially those in rural and remote areas, the poor and underserved and veterans who especially rely on postal delivery of life-saving medicines. More, https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/04/14/keep-it-its-yours-postal-workers-message-public-denounces-trump-privatization-plan

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Reply NOT FOR SALE $: USPS Workers Reject WH Plan To Privatize Postal Service; April 15- Tax Day Action (Original post)
appalachiablue Apr 14 OP
StTimofEdenRoc Apr 14 #1
CousinIT Apr 14 #3
stuffmatters Apr 14 #4
CousinIT Apr 15 #7
Doodley Apr 14 #2
JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #5
CousinIT Apr 15 #8
appalachiablue Apr 15 #9
HuskyOffset Apr 15 #13
JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #14
HuskyOffset Apr 15 #15
JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #16
HuskyOffset Apr 15 #17
JohnnyRingo Apr 15 #18
HuskyOffset Apr 15 #19
PatrickforO Apr 15 #6
JayhawkSD Apr 15 #10
Rebl2 Apr 15 #11
JayhawkSD Apr 15 #12

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 09:54 PM

1. Gee, is this why the R's have been so aggressive about funding the USPS retirement systems.

They need more retirement funds to steal.

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Response to StTimofEdenRoc (Reply #1)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:40 PM

3. Postal Workers Union(s) is/are some of the largest in the US. GOP wants them destroyed.

I think they're primarily after the unions. Privatize the USPS and the union(s) is/are GONE.

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Response to CousinIT (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 11:48 PM

4. Plus USPS is a major employer of Vets, people of color and Democrats

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Response to stuffmatters (Reply #4)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:48 AM

7. Yep. And then there's that.


And The Devil's vengeant ass would love to destroy these decent folk.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Sun Apr 14, 2019, 10:01 PM

2. Trump will be infuriated that postal workers defy him. Await a new insult-laden Trump battle!

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:33 AM

5. More union busting.

The republicans know where union dues go, it's the #1 source of democratic party donations. That's why union dues are the first casualty of Right To Work laws.

Postal workers are fed workers unaffected by state laws. That's why they have to hand it over to private interests that will hire unorganized low wage employees.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:49 AM

8. The union. Those Dem party donations...

...that's probably primarily what they're after.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:49 AM

9. A huge motivator. And 'right to work' means

the 'right to freeload,' workers draining union funds as planned.

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:50 PM

13. Isn't it illegal to use union dues for political purposes? (NT)

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Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

14. In a word, no.

There may be some Right To Work laws in certain states that try to regulate donations (for their own political purposes), but the #1 donor to the Democratic Party nationally are labor unions, in particular service unions, postal workers, and teachers. It used to be auto workers, but outsourcing changed that. They can't outsource the remaining union workers so republicans fight to end union dues, the prime cause in every Right To Work law.

The #1 donor to the GOP are various energy companies. That certainly explains a lot about climate change, doesn't it?

https://www.investopedia.com/news/top-democrat-donors/
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?id=

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 02:41 PM

15. Teamsters union disagrees with you

I found this which says:

Are my dues being used to fund political candidates I do not support?
NO. Federal and various state campaign contribution laws prohibit dues dollars being used for political campaign contributions.


and:

If my dues can’t be used for political contributions, how do Unions contribute to political campaigns?
Unions participate in political campaigns through donations from a political action committee (PAC) fund, funded by voluntary union member contributions.


The FEC web site seems to agree with that.

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Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 03:22 PM

16. Obviously the unions have found a loophole.

The preponderance of labor unions in their mix has also made Democrats the primary beneficiaries of "soft money," or money that is not regulated by the Federal Election Commission. This is because labor unions and corporations are prohibited from giving hard money (or, money whose spending is regulated and tracked by the FEC) for political purposes. But, they are allowed to give unlimited amounts of soft money. Democrats received approximately a billion dollars more, compared to Republicans.

https://www.investopedia.com/news/top-democrat-donors/


The fact remains that unions are the single largest donor to democrats, and they act like it by sticking up for the working class.

FEC Data From Feb 2019_____________________Total________To Democrats

Carpenters & Joiners Union_________________$38,366,262____$37,822,215
Service Employees International Union________$28,224,658____$28,219,509
Laborers Union___________________________$27,538,080____$26,810,870
National Education Assn____________________$20,647,535____$20,362,583
American Federation of Teachers_____________$20,020,711____$19,986,642
American Federation of State/Cnty/Muni_______$13,397,952____$13,373,953
Operating Engineers Union__________________$10,704,285____$9,924,294
International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers__$9,867,170_____$9,669,751
United Food & Commercial Workers Union______$8,201,202 _____$8,179,319
Communications Workers of America__________$7,592,938_____$6,886,028
United Steelworkers_______________________$6,885,226_____$6,427,342



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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #16)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:25 PM

17. Yes, unions can run PACs

but those are all voluntary contributions. Unions are prohibited by law from using dues money for political activity.

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Response to HuskyOffset (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 04:49 PM

18. That's not true. Not at all.

As a lifelong union member and retiree, I know for a fact that the IUE and UAW sent a portion of our dues to democrats. I provided the links to explain how this is done with soft money. I was never asked by my local to "voluntarily" make donations. Never. they pool unlimited money in PACs and send it along.

Ironically, republicans fought for this loophole (Citizens United) all the way to the Supreme Court in order to allow businesses like the Koch Bros to donate unlimited funds to the assholes who butter their bread. They don't ask employees what they want either.

This time, check the link below to see how much is from individuals, PACs, and soft money.

https://www.opensecrets.org/industries/totals.php?cycle=2018&ind=P04

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Response to JohnnyRingo (Reply #18)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 06:02 PM

19. Was this since Citizens United, or all along?

I was all set to argue with you further, but then I tried reading 11 CFR Part 114 and I went cross-eyed and my brain started to hurt, so I'm just going to throw up my hands and say "you win".

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 12:41 AM

6. Gee, I have an idea about privatizing the US Postal Service...

Let's NOT.

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Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 01:21 AM

10. It's hard to see what privatization would accomplish.

The USPS is funded entirely by its own operations, by revenue from the sale of its own products and services. No government tax revenue is given to the USPS to fund its operation, and has not been for quite a few years. Privatizing it would serve no purpose.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:41 AM

11. You are

exactly right. Also postal workers are not allowed to strike. The postal service isn’t the governments to give away. I think if it were privatized you would see fewer post offices and rural areas would be hit hard.

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Response to Rebl2 (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 15, 2019, 09:57 AM

12. Two more good points.

If it were privatized would the government still be able to mandate the inability to strike? I suspect not. Would the government still be able to mandate delivery to all points? Almost certainly not.

So it would accomplish nothing positive and would have a negative impacts on the citizens of the nation.

There are some things the government does better than private enterprise. That being said, there is a place for FedEx and UPS, and it seems to me that having both government and private enterprise service the public in this area is useful.

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