Tue Jul 24, 2018, 07:41 AM
demmiblue (31,044 posts)
Republicans are telling Democrats to move right. It's dreadful advice.The Democratic Party’s steady move to the left in recent times, particularly in the past year and a half, is one of the most important developments of this era in American politics. And inevitably, the concern trolls are out, telling the party that it will waste an opportunity if it goes too far to the left.
For instance, here’s former Republican James B. Comey, sharing his political insights about what does and doesn’t affect elections: Democrats, please, please don’t lose your minds and rush to the socialist left. This president and his Republican Party are counting on you to do exactly that. America’s great middle wants sensible, balanced, ethical leadership. — James Comey (@Comey) July 22, 2018 Here’s Henry Olsen, a senior fellow at the conservative Ethics and Public Policy Center, telling liberals that they’ll never beat President Trump with a bunch of leftist policy ideas. And it’s not just Republicans; the group Third Way held a gathering of moderate Democrats so that they could wring their hands about where the party is going. “The Democrats, in my opinion, would make a big mistake if they decide to run a base election and just say, ‘Our base is bigger than your base,’ ” said former New Orleans mayor and possible presidential candidate Mitch Landrieu. https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/07/23/republicans-are-telling-democrats-to-move-right-its-dreadful-advice/?utm_term=.c6a003383486&tid=sm_tw
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demmiblue | Jul 2018 | OP |
Raven123 | Jul 2018 | #1 | |
EndGOPPropaganda | Jul 2018 | #2 | |
appalachiablue | Jul 2018 | #7 | |
BeyondGeography | Jul 2018 | #3 | |
Trust Buster | Jul 2018 | #4 | |
Vogon_Glory | Jul 2018 | #5 | |
ProfessorPlum | Jul 2018 | #6 | |
Uncle Joe | Jul 2018 | #8 | |
rlegro | Jul 2018 | #9 | |
Snellius | Jul 2018 | #10 |
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 07:55 AM
Raven123 (2,349 posts)
1. Comey already did that and we got Trump
Response to Raven123 (Reply #1)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:04 AM
EndGOPPropaganda (1,117 posts)
2. Good response to Comey here
Response to EndGOPPropaganda (Reply #2)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:32 PM
appalachiablue (30,634 posts)
7. Easy on the Soshalism fears Jimbo, not a problem..
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:06 AM
BeyondGeography (36,772 posts)
3. Autocorrect insists on "comedy" whenever I write Comey
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:24 AM
Trust Buster (7,299 posts)
4. I agree with Comey. The middle does want sensible, balanced, ethical leadership.
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:02 AM
Vogon_Glory (7,950 posts)
5. No. We Democrats have moved far enough right already
No, those recent former Republicans are giving bad advice. We moved far enough right already. In fact, I’d say that much of the Democratic Party’s agenda is what used to be called moderate-conservative forty, fifty years ago. I see no reason whatsoever why we should move over into the irresponsible anti-welfare state, anti-Great Society, anti-New Deal psychotic mindset that has taken over the Republican Party.
I know this to be true. I used to be a Nixon—Ford era moderate conservative and bailed when I realized that the Raygun Zanies were firmly in control of the GOP and would continue to be so. I admit I’m more to the right than many DU voters, and that I don’t like the thought of writing off potential voters. But after the 2016 election, I’ve been convinced that all the reachable Republican moderates have already crossed over the River Jordan and joined Team Donkey. There’s little left among the pachyderms except diminishing returns. We’d do better to start registering and recruiting within traditional Democratic blocs. |
Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:58 AM
ProfessorPlum (11,085 posts)
6. watch out, you'll be called out for being divisive
I totally agree with the article. Also,
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Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 06:49 PM
Uncle Joe (50,374 posts)
8. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread demmiblue
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Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:45 PM
rlegro (236 posts)
9. Comey and the others pushing this advice...
...apparently never heard of the Overton window. Shifting the window back to the center of American politics from the right, where it resides today, in fact requires a vigorous shift to the left in Democratic politics -- perhaps a series of them, which is how the GOP moved the window into neo-fascist territory in the space of a few decades. More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window
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Response to demmiblue (Original post)
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:31 PM
Snellius (6,876 posts)
10. Seems more likely to push Repubs back to the center or full authoritarian Trumpist.
Their major donors like the Koch brothers must be freaking out over the possibility of democratic socialism, like after WWII when almost every country in the world went socialist in one degree or another. Except the US. Or like Hitler in his rise to power.
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