HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Editorials & Other Articles (Forum) » MUST READ -- Donald Trump...

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:47 PM

MUST READ -- Donald Trump Didn't Want to Be President by Michael Wolff

I haven't actually finished the whole thing.
It worse than we imagined.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/01/michael-wolff-fire-and-fury-book-donald-trump.html

Election Night: It “looked as if he had seen a ghost.”


“This is bigger than I ever dreamed of,” he told Ailes a week before the election. “I don’t think about losing, because it isn’t losing. We’ve totally won.”


Shortly after 8 p.m. on Election Night, when the unexpected trend — Trump might actually win — seemed confirmed, Don Jr. told a friend that his father, or DJT, as he calls him, looked as if he had seen a ghost. Melania was in tears—and not of joy.

Murdoch suggested that taking a liberal approach to H-1B visas, which open America’s doors to select immigrants, might be hard to square with his promises to build a wall and close the borders. But Trump seemed unconcerned, assuring Murdoch, “We’ll figure it out.”

“What a fucking idiot,” said Murdoch, shrugging, as he got off the phone.

32 replies, 2387 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 32 replies Author Time Post
Reply MUST READ -- Donald Trump Didn't Want to Be President by Michael Wolff (Original post)
underpants Jan 3 OP
Raster Jan 3 #1
Egnever Jan 3 #2
pnwest Jan 3 #3
murielm99 Jan 4 #18
pnwest Jan 4 #24
Dave Starsky Jan 4 #21
Sironichow Jan 3 #4
SunSeeker Jan 4 #29
brush Jan 3 #5
earthshine Jan 3 #6
brush Jan 3 #7
mopinko Jan 3 #9
brush Jan 3 #10
Dave Starsky Jan 4 #23
brush Jan 4 #27
underpants Jan 3 #11
Sironichow Jan 3 #8
SunSeeker Jan 4 #30
BigmanPigman Jan 3 #12
underpants Jan 3 #13
murielm99 Jan 4 #19
czarjak Jan 3 #17
malthaussen Jan 4 #28
UpInArms Jan 3 #14
underpants Jan 3 #16
pnwest Jan 4 #25
SunSeeker Jan 4 #31
murielm99 Jan 4 #20
UpInArms Jan 4 #22
More_Cowbell Jan 3 #15
Nitram Jan 4 #26
Chakaconcarne Jan 4 #32

Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:50 PM

1. of course he didn't want to be POTUS...

...he's not totally stupid. He knew there was a possibility that all his previous nefarious actions and deeds could see the light of day.

He also knew, at that time, that Putin* had him firmly by the nuts, and his nastly ol' orange ass WAS OWNED.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 02:55 PM

2. The look in his face when he walked out to claim victory

Said very clearly he did not want this win.

He looked like someone beat him before he came out to the stage. He hid it better as he got going but the look on his face when he came out said it all.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:12 PM

3. That whole family looked like

They had shit and fell in it when they walked out to claim victory. I saw that immediately.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pnwest (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 05:46 AM

18. You saw that immediately.

I have never seen the looks on people's faces when they shit and fall in it.

Thank you for that. Although it is a bit early in the a.m. for me to be sitting here chortling, thank you.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to murielm99 (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:21 AM

24. Prolly should have said

“I commented on that immediately” to Mr West. We were watching MSNBC that evening, and when they were walking down those steps onto the stage, that whole family had grim faces, you could SEE them thinking “oh, shit....”. I have contended since that moment they never thought he’d win. HIS face especially - there was no smile, no joy, not even gloating - for a guy who likes winning so much - just dawning realization that their plan had backfired spectacularly and the shit was deep now. That’s why their crimes were so rampant and blatant, they never thought he’d win, never counted on being scrutinized so closely.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to pnwest (Reply #3)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 07:52 AM

21. The two idiot sons looked pretty jazzed about it.

But they are, in general, pretty clueless.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:14 PM

4. Melania's tears...

Remind me of the rumored signed divorce agreement, contingent on him losing, and her relationship with the Tiffany's head of security. Also, how she did not move to DC until the summer and only agreed to do so if her parents came along.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Sironichow (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:29 PM

29. How did her parents come into the country?

Isn't that the dreaded "chain migration" that Trump rails against?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:21 PM

5. Why did the a-hole waste the country's time? Now we're stuck with his unequiped, orange behind.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brush (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:40 PM

6. Because he thought running would raise his status and fame ...

and thus be good for his "brand" and sales.

The GOP is going to pass a lot of bad policy, and ultimately, blame it on Trump in the years to come.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to earthshine (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:45 PM

7. Seems like flawed thinking to me. How does being a loser in the most visible election in the world..

Last edited Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:07 PM - Edit history (1)

help his brand?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brush (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:16 PM

9. he gets to be the next sarah palin.

doesnt have to actually do any work, just gets to be the "former presidential candidate" forever. oh the fun he would have toying w a 2020 run. everyone asking him that in every interview.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to mopinko (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:19 PM

10. Seems that would've worked if he'd lost a close primary fight, not if he lost the presidency.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brush (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 08:09 AM

23. He plays the victim constantly. That's one of his strategies.

He's constantly whining about "rigged elections" and mistreatment by "fake news". The poor, trod-upon teabaggers eat that shit up. They think he's fighting back. He is a hero to them.

By losing the election, he could ride professional victimhood all the way to financial solvency by selling his cheap crap to the idiot masses. Like Palin (also a loser), the news media would continue to still check with him on a regular basis to keep his name and face on the tube. And he'd never have to miss a single day on the golf course.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #23)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:53 AM

27. Yeah, maybe that would've worked better than him winning since many properties are taking his name..

off the buildings because it's now toxic for bookings.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brush (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 04:31 PM

11. and HOW he did it. Racist sexist violent etc.

He truly must be mad crazed out of it.

I swear Vince McMahon (pro wrestling) had more to do with this than we have heard. It was pure wrestling malarkey.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 03:55 PM

8. Trump never heard of John Boehner

Ailes, a veteran of the Nixon, Reagan, and Bush 41 administrations, tried to impress on Trump the need to create a White House structure that could serve and protect him. “You need a son of a bitch as your chief of staff,” he told Trump. “And you need a son of a bitch who knows Washington. You’ll want to be your own son of a bitch, but you don’t know Washington.” Ailes had a suggestion: John Boehner, who had stepped down as Speaker of the House only a year earlier.

“Who’s that?” asked Trump.


I'm buying this book on Jan 9th. Thanks for sharing- the entire article is astounding.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Sironichow (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:31 PM

30. Wow.

Unfuckingbelievable.


He really didn't know who John Boehner was?!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 05:46 PM

12. I remember the picture of his face and those around

him when the news broke. He was SHOCKED! Everyone else, including his family, were all smiling. He only ran because it was an ego trip and he just wanted to make money off of it. It was a publicity stunt. He never really wanted all the work, responsibility, etc that the job entails.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 06:49 PM

13. This excerpt puts a lot of pieces together

From the relationship to his food choices to the one-step-from-Howard-Hughes

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Reply #13)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 05:52 AM

19. I could see him becoming Howard Hughes in the future.

He will be kicked out of office. He will not resign, unless it is forced on him. But he will be kicked out.

He will not go to jail. He will sit and rot in his tower, germaphobic, terrified of being poisoned, dependent on Ivanka, solitary.

His orange hair and his fingernails will grow long.

He will go into periodic rages. He won't be tweeting. At long last, twitter will ban his crazy orange ass.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:47 PM

17. "It's rigged, folks"...

Huh, Don?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 11:17 AM

28. Pence, OTOH, looks quite pleased...

... as though he knows who will be taking over when the whole shtick falls apart.

I'm guessing he thought his own ass was sufficiently covered.

-- Mal

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 08:12 PM

14. Tried reading the entire article

And kept throwing up in my mouth

Don’t think I’ll be able to read the book .... and I read the book of all of Nixon’s tapes ...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UpInArms (Reply #14)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:11 PM

16. This excerpt is enough for me

I'm not buying a book by Bannon.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 09:34 AM

25. With the heavy criticism of the credibility

of both the book and the author, I don’t think I’ll buy it either. As much as I cannot WAIT for the tell-all book to come out, I don’t think this is it. Apparently he even states in the book that HE isn’t certain of how true some of it is. Seems like a lot of uncorroborated hearsay and gossip. I’ll wait for Rachel’s book! ( there HAS to be one!)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 02:34 PM

31. The book is by Michael Wolff. Bannon was just one of many Wolff interviewed.

Wolff basically imbedded himself for months in the White House and spoke to anyone who would talk to him, including Trump.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to UpInArms (Reply #14)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 05:53 AM

20. You read all that?

All those tapes? I was a Watergate junkie, but I could not stand to read all that.

Nixon hated everyone there was to hate. That shit gets boring. The banality of evil and all that.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to murielm99 (Reply #20)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 08:06 AM

22. I did

I just kept thinking ... this guy’s batshit crazy

Prolly still have the book in my attic

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Wed Jan 3, 2018, 09:10 PM

15. No wonder he doesn't mind screwing his base

They're the ones who put him in a position to be found guilty.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 10:10 AM

26. It was always obvious that Trump's candidacy was supposed to be a publicity stunt.

With Russia's help, with comey's help, and with the help of the racist 25% of our country, he actually was elected. At some point he decided it might be cool to be president. I suspect he had a lot of people whispering in his ear about the power and the status he would have. Meanwhile, they've been whispering advice that led to the Muslim ban, the repeated attempts to repeal Obamacare, the tax ripoff scheme, letting DACA relapse, etc.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to underpants (Original post)

Thu Jan 4, 2018, 03:02 PM

32. if true then what of collusion?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread