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Donkees

(31,341 posts)
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 03:29 PM Sep 2017

Bernie Sanders Just Gave the Progressive Foreign-Policy Speech We've Been Waiting For

The senator powerfully linked domestic and foreign policy in the context of massive global inequality.

By Stephen Miles TODAY 2:16 PM

Excerpt:

At the heart of his speech was the argument that the divide between domestic and foreign policy is not only artificial but also counterproductive. An expansive view of foreign policy—not merely as the idea of what happens over there, but also as part of who we are here at home—challenges us to enlarge our own thinking. Foreign policy, in Sanders’s argument, is not just about whether we go to war or not. It is about our democracy at home; it is about climate change; it is about global oligarchy; and it is about how American leadership can come together and solve the challenges we face through diplomacy.

Sanders rightly connects the dots between an exploding Pentagon budget and Republican attempts to take health care away from tens of millions of Americans in the name of fiscal responsibility. He makes clear that a progressive foreign policy also means that “We cannot convincingly promote democracy abroad if we do not live it vigorously here at home.” And in the way he does so well, Sanders reminds us that no progressive view of the world can tolerate the massive wealth inequality both here and around the world.

After reframing the issue, Sanders dives into the meat of the matter in a way that should ring true for every progressive. He reminds us that hundreds of millions live in poverty, dying of preventable diseases, while arms makers rake in trillions from weapons of war. He reminds us that America’s history of interventions—from Iran to Chile to right now in Yemen—have a habit of having devastating results. And he reminds us that there is a path between endless war and isolationism, that America’s greatest successes came when it helped support not just our allies but also our former enemies, as we did with the Marshall Plan.

To bring this all home, Sanders points to two diametrically opposed visions of American foreign policy that played out in recent years. In reminding us of the horrors of the Iraq War and juxtaposing it with the unbridled success of the Iran nuclear deal, Bernie helps make clear that this is not some esoteric debate. These are debates happening right now, here in Washington, about just what path our nation should choose to confront the challenges we face abroad.

https://www.thenation.com/article/bernie-sanders-just-gave-the-progressive-foreign-policy-speech-weve-been-waiting-for/

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Bernie Sanders Just Gave the Progressive Foreign-Policy Speech We've Been Waiting For (Original Post) Donkees Sep 2017 OP
So is The Nation still denying that Russians hacked the comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #1
What's that got to do with Bernie's speech? OxQQme Sep 2017 #2
Not a thing, but I am curious about whats going on at comradebillyboy Sep 2017 #3
I like how the author can't even tell us Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #4
Sadly true of any individual senator. AtheistCrusader Sep 2017 #5
I like how nothing Bernie says or does whathehell Sep 2017 #6
When he joins the party, he'll get the benefit of the doubt Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #7
For you and a few others, perhaps whathehell Sep 2017 #8
It's the dividing line on whether Bernie wants to make real change Blue_Tires Sep 2017 #9
I think that's your interpretation.. whathehell Sep 2017 #10
Fact check from WAPO ehrnst Oct 2017 #11

comradebillyboy

(10,128 posts)
3. Not a thing, but I am curious about whats going on at
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 04:58 PM
Sep 2017

The Nation since I saw their byline on the story.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
4. I like how the author can't even tell us
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:03 PM
Sep 2017

Last edited Fri Sep 22, 2017, 08:07 AM - Edit history (1)

who Bernie was speaking to, or where...

Nice words, but the BLUF is Bernie as a senator will have very little influence on FP as long as the Trump Junta is running things...

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
6. I like how nothing Bernie says or does
Thu Sep 21, 2017, 06:47 PM
Sep 2017

is left uncriticized by some here.

As for "influence", Bernie will have no more or less than any other non-repuke senator in Trump's regime.





whathehell

(29,034 posts)
8. For you and a few others, perhaps
Sat Sep 23, 2017, 12:12 PM
Sep 2017

I myself would like to see him join the Party. That being said, I'm more appreciative of his values and ideas than I am concerned with his formal identification with the party.








Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
9. It's the dividing line on whether Bernie wants to make real change
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 08:40 AM
Sep 2017

or if he's just in this for himself...

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
10. I think that's your interpretation..
Mon Sep 25, 2017, 09:28 AM
Sep 2017

but the fact that anyone could conclude that Bernie might 'just in it for himself" baffles me and tells me that person knows nothing about the man His lifelong embrace of the common good over personal gain is a matter of record, not opinion. As one example, he's been, for the vast majority of his time in the Senate, the POOREST person in it, so he's clearly not in it for the money..

This being the case, I'm curious as to what -- for himself -- you think he's "just in it for"?

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
11. Fact check from WAPO
Mon Oct 2, 2017, 10:39 AM
Oct 2017

Sen. Bernie Sanders has made a habit of citing stunning stats about inequality, but too often the numbers oversimplify complex economics. (Meg Kelly/The Washington Post)

“There is no moral or economic justification for the six wealthiest people in the world having as much wealth as the bottom half of the world’s population, 3.7 billion people.”

— Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), remarks during a speech at Westminster College, Sept. 21, 2017

.............................................................


We cut Sanders some slack earlier when he made an inequality comparison within the United States. But wealth is a fundamentally misleading measure if you’re comparing countries across the globe. It’s one thing to look at inequality inside a country, but international comparisons are in another realm and fraught with even more problems.

Without considering how debt is measured and held, what kinds of assets each group owns, or how the currencies are converted, it’s hard to make heads or tails of what wealth actually means, with respect to people’s daily lives around the globe. Moreover, negative wealth — which includes people with high standards of living — really drags down the bottom 50 percent. Sanders’s statistic, while provocative, is basically meaningless. He earns Three Pinocchios.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/02/bernie-sanders-claim-that-the-worlds-six-wealthiest-people-have-as-much-wealth-as-half-the-worlds-population/
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