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Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:31 PM

In Montana, Days of Smoke and Ash





BIGFORK, Mont. ó I guess we should consider ourselves lucky. Folks down on Rock Creek have been praying for rain (sans lightning, of course) and hoping that the fire lines hold. Missoula is surrounded by wildfires, to the point that it really doesnít matter which way the wind blows. North, east, south or west, the cityís population is still sucking smoke.

The little town of Seeley Lake, which is due south of us on Highway 83, remains under an evacuation warning. Thereís a new fire up the road toward Eureka, and itís apparently blowing up as I type these words. If thereís solace to be had, I suppose we can find it in not having flames raging in our backyard.

Welcome to Montana, where our famous trout streams run low and warm in August and the smoke turns our cloudless, robinís-egg-blue skies the muted gray of old campfire ash.

I was supposed to fish the Flathead River with a friend this week, and while we may still get out and float the stretch near Columbia Falls, I canít say that Iím all that excited by the opportunity. Sure, itís an awfully pretty piece of water, but it loses some of its allure when you have a hard time seeing the mountains for the smoke. Nor does it help when every particulate-filled breath is a reminder of the unrelenting heat, and the lack of moisture, and the prevalence, both here and all over these vast Western United States, of huge wildfires working their way through our desiccated forests.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/11/opinion/montana-heat-fires.html

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Ptah Aug 2017 OP
MFM008 Aug 2017 #1
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #2
MFM008 Aug 2017 #6
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #10
Aristus Aug 2017 #13
NCDem777 Aug 2017 #3
Ptah Aug 2017 #4
BigmanPigman Aug 2017 #5
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2017 #11
Doug the Dem Aug 2017 #7
BlueMTexpat Aug 2017 #8
JayhawkSD Aug 2017 #9
hatrack Aug 2017 #12

Response to Ptah (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:34 PM

1. Our skies grayish blue brown

In day and gray red hued at night. 90 degree heat and smoke from BC fires.

Welcome to the new normal.

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 01:52 PM

2. Dunno where you are. but my kid in Bellingham, Wash.

says he's been seeing red sun, red moon, smoke and even ash up there, a few miles below the Canadian border.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 10:23 PM

6. Near Tacoma

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Response to MFM008 (Reply #6)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 12:14 PM

10. Did not realize it came down that far..

till i found some pics and local news coverage.

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Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 09:20 AM

13. Yeah, it has fostered some weird feelings around the Two-Five-Three.

A strange, festive holiday atmosphere, with people posting pics of reddish sunrises, gorgeous sunsets, ominous red moons, etc, combined with anxiety and concern for the Canadian firefighters and a hope that it will be over soon.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:12 PM

3. No sympathy

FEMA said they won't help them and now they're bitching. They've been bitching about the mere existence of the Federal government for years.

Now they see what life is like without one.

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 03:53 PM

4. What's wrong with you?

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #3)

Fri Aug 11, 2017, 04:41 PM

5. Did they refuse FEMA's assistance or Federal agencies in general ?

Or is that how they vote in elections?

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Response to NCDem777 (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:24 PM

11. Who is "They" that have been bitching????

And what does FEMA have to do with all the smoke that people in the West are choking on?
The fires and smoke are from CANADA...how is FEMA supposed to help about that?

Show me who asked for FEMA help about the smoke.

FEMA's job is to step in AFTER a disaster, and help people. Not during one.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 01:54 AM

7. Chinese Hoaxters

 

Didn't you hear what Our Orange Emperor said?

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 02:52 AM

8. My husband and I hope

to visit family in MT in mid-September - assuming that there is still anything left.

This site provides excellent information - not only for Montana - but this is currently the information for Montana: https://inciweb.nwcg.gov/state/maps/27/

We appreciate all the firefighters and their support staff enormously. They are true heroes, and primarily unsung.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Sat Aug 12, 2017, 09:48 AM

9. Politics aren't really needed in this thread.

But I do feel somewhat embarrassed for my county, San Diego, which has no county fire agency and cries for help from the north whenever we get hit with a big wildfire. In all fairness, though, we have no significant fires right now, and several hundred firefighters from our local agencies are up north helping out. We do not hesitate or stint when they ask us to lend a hand.

Still, while the local agencies coordinate extremely well and do an outstanding job, it is shameful that we have no county fire agency.

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Response to Ptah (Original post)

Sun Aug 13, 2017, 08:07 AM

12. Damn, China, that's some hoax!

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