Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:40 PM

ciaobaby (943 posts)

This is a relief to me -DU is not the norm in regard to angry dismissal of Bernie.

http://resistancereport.com/politics/harvard-poll-bernie-supporters/

From the article:

The survey, conducted by Harvard University and The Harris Poll, disproves the “Bernie Bro” trope with hard numbers. According to the survey results, which were conducted among 2,027 registered voters between April 14 and April 17, 2017, Sanders is actually more popular among women, African Americans, Hispanics, and Asian Americans than white people and men.

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13 replies	Author	Time	Post
This is a relief to me -DU is not the norm in regard to angry dismissal of Bernie. (Original post)	ciaobaby	Apr 2017	OP
Me too.	KPN	Apr 2017	#1
It hard to find key points in the article	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#6
I supported HRC completely, but I never had, nor do I have now, anything against Bernie	hlthe2b	Apr 2017	#2
He sure wasn't that popular in the southern primaries with AAs	brush	Apr 2017	#3
Where did you get that from?	StubbornThings	Apr 2017	#10
Ok, I should've said popular enough to vote for.	brush	Apr 2017	#11
Another interesting tidbit from poll.	yallerdawg	Apr 2017	#4
The data do not support the conclusions.	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#5
Bernie is my hero	jodymarie aimee	Apr 2017	#7
We are simpatico !	ciaobaby	Apr 2017	#8
That's good.	alarimer	Apr 2017	#9
That is because he's a progressive and members of minority groups and women support progressives	pnwmom	Apr 2017	#12
You could say the same about every Democrat. They are all more popular with minorities than with	StevieM	Apr 2017	#13

Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:44 PM

KPN (3,049 posts)

1. Me too.

Can I make a suggestion and suggest that you edit your post to include a paragraph or a few key points taken directly from the article?

Sometimes links without included substance take folks to "bad" sites.

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Response to KPN (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:26 PM

lapucelle (2,523 posts)

6. It hard to find key points in the article

that don't either bash Democrats or the Democratic Party. By and large, the article re-fights the primary. It's not helpful.

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Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:50 PM

hlthe2b (56,418 posts)

2. I supported HRC completely, but I never had, nor do I have now, anything against Bernie

So, I don't get it, either. To the extent he may have been "used" by Putin-backed trolls to hurt HRC, I don't blame Sanders for that.

And, THAT will be all I have to say on the subject.

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Thu Apr 20, 2017, 01:54 PM

brush (12,950 posts)

3. He sure wasn't that popular in the southern primaries with AAs

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And large cities too for that matter.

Wonder where they sampled?

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Response to brush (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:16 PM

StubbornThings (259 posts)

10. Where did you get that from?

Voting for Hillary over Bernie in the primaries doesn't mean he wasn't still popular with those voters.

Many of us that voted for Bernie over Hillary still supported her in the general.

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Response to StubbornThings (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:38 PM

brush (12,950 posts)

11. Ok, I should've said popular enough to vote for.

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Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:00 PM

yallerdawg (10,918 posts)

4. Another interesting tidbit from poll.

Out of 2,000+ respondents, 14% identify as atheist/agnostic.

Then: "How often do you attend religion services, events, or gatherings?"

55% reported "Almost never."

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Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:21 PM

lapucelle (2,523 posts)

5. The data do not support the conclusions.

You cannot use data about favorability to support a conclusion about popularity. And you certainly cannot equivocate "views favorably" with "supports".

Statistical analysis is a complex process. Neither Harvard nor Harris chose to reach conclusions about the data they present. I would suggest that a random blogger whose goal seems to be finding a new excuse to re-litigate the primary do the same.

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Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:48 PM

jodymarie aimee (1,367 posts)

7. Bernie is my hero

as is Elizabeth Warren.

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Response to jodymarie aimee (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 02:53 PM

ciaobaby (943 posts)

8. We are simpatico !

Not many on DU have any respect or admiration for Bernie. Which is very unfortunate if we ever want to be united for a stronger voting bloc, regardless if one is an Independant or a Democrat.

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Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:04 PM

alarimer (15,351 posts)

9. That's good.

Sometimes I feel like I've stepped into a fantasy world in which Bernie Sanders is some kind of demon. It's really become quite vicious.

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Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:13 PM

pnwmom (84,194 posts)

12. That is because he's a progressive and members of minority groups and women support progressives

more than white men do.

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Response to ciaobaby (Original post)

Thu Apr 20, 2017, 09:51 PM

StevieM (6,209 posts)

13. You could say the same about every Democrat. They are all more popular with minorities than with

white people. And they are all more popular with women than with men.

These groups are more liberal and more Democrat. So all Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents will be more popular with those groups than the general population.

This is not surprising. It would have been surprising if that wasn't the case.

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