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Judi Lynn

(160,450 posts)
Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:21 AM Jan 2015

Is Hawai‘i an Occupied State?

Is Hawai‘i an Occupied State?

As the campaign for full independence gains momentum, a new view of Hawaiian history is taking hold.

‘Umi Perkins January 16, 2015

Over the summer, the US Department of the Interior held a series of hearings inviting Native Hawaiians to comment on the formation of a federally recognized nation. The hearings confirmed what many Hawaiians already knew: opposing camps have formed in the debate over Hawaiian sovereignty. One side views federal recognition as a pragmatic alternative to the status quo. The other side, at first thought to be a marginal segment of the movement, seeks the full independence that Hawai‘i had in the nineteenth century. Surprisingly, after decades in which the federal recognition advocates represented the mainstream, the voices for full independence seized the spotlight. The overwhelming response at the hearings to the question of federal recognition was “a‘ole”: no.

Very few people who supported federal recognition at the hearings—“only a handful,” according to the Honolulu Civil Beat—made their voices heard. One of the most prominent proponents was Native Hawaiian Roll Commissioner Na‘alehu Anthony, who said he did not want to pass the struggle on to his son after watching three generations fight for Hawaiian rights. The written testimony that followed shows a different balance. According to analysis by University of Hawai‘i law professor Williamson Chang, 65 percent of comments were in favor of federal recognition and 35 percent in favor of independence. (The Department of the Interior has not yet completed its own review.)

These numbers are misleading. The Roll Commission compiled a list of 125,000 ostensible supporters out of the roughly 500,000 Native Hawaiians living in the United States. But two-thirds of those names were from a 2004 list gathered with the less specific purpose of establishing a “Native Hawaiian governing body,” which is broad enough to mean different things to different people.

Mainstream media coverage was misleading too. By focusing on the tone rather than the content of the comments at the hearings, commentators missed the real story, which was that a major shift in Hawaiian political will had occurred. In a community known for its divisiveness, the emergence of the independence movement as a viable force is quite stunning. Under the radar, a new view of Hawaiian history is taking hold.

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Is Hawai‘i an Occupied State? (Original Post) Judi Lynn Jan 2015 OP
No qazplm Jan 2015 #1

qazplm

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Mon Jan 19, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

seems to me when, as that article states when you go to the link, more people are in favor of the status quo than independence, then Hawaii is not an occupied state.

No one is going to be able to argue that we didn't gain Hawaii blatantly against their will. Then again, we took most of our country against someone's will. That's how things were done back then. Doesn't make it right, but if we start re-partitioning the entire world based on someone taking land from someone else, we are going to have a real patchwork of states and entities, and the practicalities of that working are pretty suspect.

The new conflicts it would engender alone make it not worth it.

If a majority of native Hawaiians rise up and say we want independence, that should be considered obviously...but I suspect that's unlikely to happen, because, like Puerto Rico, it's overall more practically beneficial to remain tied to the US than to go it alone.

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