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TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 09:56 AM Dec 2014

The ‘Jeb Bush Doctrine’ makes debut

Source: Miami Herald

The Bush Doctrine is on the verge of making a comeback.

As Jeb Bush weighs a presidential bid, the former Florida governor on Tuesday laid out his foreign policy precepts, which closely mirror that of his brother, former President George W. Bush.
Bush detailed seven points in all during a speech to the U.S. Cuba Democracy PAC at the Biltmore Hotel in Coral Gables, where he told the crowd that the United States shouldn’t back away from engaging its friends or enemies anywhere in the world.

For Bush, that starts 90 miles from U.S. shores, with the Cuban embargo and travel policy.
“I would argue that, instead of lifting the embargo, we should consider strengthening it,” Bush said, calling for free elections, free trade and the release of political prisoners on the communist island.
The crowd of donors, the backbone of Cuba’s exiled elite, applauded loudly.
Bush called for more military and cybersecurity spending, strengthening international alliances, robustly criticizing enemies and expanding free trade. He sounded notes of concern with nearly every quarter of the world: Russia, China, Cuba, Venezuela, Nicaragua, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel.

Bush’s speech doubled as a campaign trial balloon and as payback against President Obama, who successfully campaigned in 2008 against George W. Bush’s foreign policy. Obama promised to withdraw from Iraq and generally called for a less muscular overseas engagement.
Jeb Bush inverted those criticisms of Obama, pointing to the chaos in Syria and the rise of the terrorist group ISIS there and in Iraq.
“In this unstable and uncertain world, the United States has actually played a part in creating greater instability and greater unraveling,” Bush said, adding that the United States, “because we’ve retrenched,” now has “worse relations than what we had before.”

Bush’s foreign-policy speech came a day after he outlined domestic policy points at the Wall Street Journal’s CEO Council gathering in Washington. Many of those who attended Tuesday’s event said Bush’s back-to-back policy addresses were the clearest sign yet that he intends to run for

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BE VERY AFRAID!!!


Further in the story they quote a supporter and republican incoming house member saying, "this is the JEB BUSH doctrine".....

He's lost weight, so now he looks more like poppy than mommy and that also is a sign he will run.

I can't say this enough and I'll continue to say it, the democrats need a real alternative to run against JEB, and that's not Hillary. By alternative I mean, a candidate that republicans will vote for, because they are 'Bush fatigued" as well. But they won't vote for Hillary, or anyone that they have disliked and ran against in the past. This lesson was just learned in Florida. So few want another Bush, but don't expect the republicans that we need to win, to vote for a Clinton! They won't do it! Also, neither side is looking forward to another Bush/Clinton race. A campaign of total baggage, the electorate is TIRED of. It will not generate turnout. Mommy Bush had it right, when she said there are more than two families in this country.

Get it DNC???
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The ‘Jeb Bush Doctrine’ makes debut (Original Post) TheNutcracker Dec 2014 OP
Kick and keep loaded with the real Bush doctrine! TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #1
The 24/7 Corporate MSM will whitewash everything. Frank Cannon Dec 2014 #3
They cannot whitewash what the taxpayers have had to pay, to BAIL THEM OUT! TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #6
That's Obama's fault. Frank Cannon Dec 2014 #9
If it's another Clinton Bush battle, we have lost all around NV Whino Dec 2014 #4
Absolutely pscot Dec 2014 #14
If we vote in a candidate without the ability to handle all areas, we lose. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #27
Why can't his wife be first lady? Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2014 #13
Read TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #18
Last I checked the only requisite for being First Lady was being married to the current President. Gidney N Cloyd Dec 2014 #21
Sure, there are no laws about First Ladies, but in the court of public opinion, she's untrustworthy TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #26
Her conduct reflects the "family values" the so-called upper class lies about Stargazer99 Dec 2014 #29
... TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #31
This from "The Smart One"? Jesus Fucking Christ . . . hatrack Dec 2014 #2
This 'smart one' was implacated with Poppy in the Silverado Savings and Loan scam/scandal TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #5
It was actually Broward Savings and Loan in Florida UpInArms Dec 2014 #12
Actually it was both TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #19
Not to exonerate Jeb, but Curmudgeoness Dec 2014 #23
Oh, he's not dumb. He knows exactly what he's doing. NYC Liberal Dec 2014 #33
More military spending? More spying? Scuba Dec 2014 #7
We are living in a new Neocon Era. CJCRANE Dec 2014 #8
Don't be afraid of Jeb, I just took a peek on Freak Republic Reter Dec 2014 #10
You can't count on the Freepers Jim Lane Dec 2014 #11
"...Free elections,...and the release of political prisoners on the communist island." Jerry442 Dec 2014 #15
+1 Jack Rabbit Dec 2014 #16
The joke's on him, Cuba is a democracy. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #25
Sickening to listen to this guy eringer Dec 2014 #17
If he is the nominee, the pundit class and Christian madrasas will do everything to Dawson Leery Dec 2014 #20
He's even more stupid than his brother MrScorpio Dec 2014 #22
As a Marxist and supporter of Cuba, this makes me sick to my stomach. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #24
Go away Jeb. Please . . . just go away. Vinca Dec 2014 #28
And will Dems, Libs, Progressives GOTV to stop him? SoapBox Dec 2014 #30
Not if it's Hillary. We all know the history, and it's tiresome. We need an alternative for all for TheNutcracker Dec 2014 #32
It'll all be fixed in the primaries... Gumboot Dec 2014 #34
Who is your alternative Legalequilibrium78 Dec 2014 #35
I see what you're saying. AverageJoe90 Dec 2014 #38
Clinton vs Bush. Gag. CrispyQ Dec 2014 #36
"laid out his foreign policy precepts, which closely mirror that of his brother" Thor_MN Dec 2014 #37
 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
1. Kick and keep loaded with the real Bush doctrine!
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:09 AM
Dec 2014

So now here comes Jeb.

His wife can never be a first lady. She lied to the feds about 20K in purchases she was bringing back into the U.S. from Paris. Jeb's been a big philanderer. Two of his children have been in the news in the past years for arrests linked to drug problems, public intoxication, and sex in public. (don't confuse the W's kids).

Then there is the family issue of robbing banks. One, the Silverado Savings and Loan, several ways into which many in the Bush family were involved, and also many politicians still in office today. Jeb, George Sr., and his son Neil Bush have all been implicated in the Savings and Loan Scandal, which cost American tax payers over $1.4 TRILLION dollars, one quarter of our national debt. One also thinks it's polite to take up the Asian hookers when presented.

Their grandfather worked for Hilter, and HW lied about working for the CIA. We were to believe this when he was chosen to head the CIA agency?

The entire family has been an "AMERICAN DISASTER'.

Then there is Jeb's Nigerian water pump bribery scandal back in the courts, just last year! Illegal immigration is an "act of love". (Then he bashed Obama for acting on it!)

Let us not forget that Jeb Bush defaulted on a $4.56 million dollar loan from the Broward Federal Savings in Sunrise, FL. After federal regulators closed the S&L, the office building that Jeb used the $4.56 million to finance was reappraised by the regulators at $500,000.00, which Bush and his partners paid. The taxpayers had to pay back the remaining 4 million plus dollars, as in the past. This family robs banks and created a drug war to run drugs. Just read Barry and the Boys. Barry Seal flew planes for the CIA and ran drugs for HW and a few others.

So spare me if I'm a little sad to even THINK ABOUT ANOTHER BUSH RUNNING! ARE YOU KIDDING ME? US?

Must we put ourselves through this again? Or will the voting machines Jeb ushered in do it for us?

Whenever a Bush is involved, taxpayers lose. They are thieves! Every one of them!

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
3. The 24/7 Corporate MSM will whitewash everything.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:24 AM
Dec 2014

The never-ending barrage of pro-Bush bullshit has yet to begin. In two years, even you will be questioning whether Jeb Bush isn't the candidate who will make all your wildest dreams come true.

Frank Cannon

(7,570 posts)
9. That's Obama's fault.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:47 AM
Dec 2014

George Bush was just doing what he had to do to protect us from terrorists in the wake of 9/11.

I hear this crap from various family members--people who are normally reasonable and intelligent--almost every day. And it's only going to get worse.

NV Whino

(20,886 posts)
4. If it's another Clinton Bush battle, we have lost all around
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:27 AM
Dec 2014

The Democrats have plenty of people on the back bench. It's time they brought them forward and put up a candidate we can actually vote for.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
27. If we vote in a candidate without the ability to handle all areas, we lose.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:25 PM
Dec 2014

We have to have a strong candidate to handle a wide variety of issues.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
18. Read
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:37 PM
Dec 2014

Read the first post for the answer/history.

While JEB's wife Columba was First Lady of Florida she went on a shopping trip to Paris. When she came back k to the states she lied to the feds in customs. She lied to the agents and said she brought back NOTHING! So they take a look and find Jeb's wife, Florida's First Lady, actually brought back $20,000.00 worth of shit! It was all over the snooze!
What do you expect from someone who they say is the daughter of a Mexican mafia boss! It was said she did this to get back at Jeb for his known affair with a woman named Cynthia. A Florida senator told me Columba walked in on the dirty dance! She is a liar criminal as a state First Lady, while JEB is a philanderer. tHIS is why she can never be a First Lady! Google it!

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
21. Last I checked the only requisite for being First Lady was being married to the current President.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:53 PM
Dec 2014

I've heard most all the things you mentioned before and, while awful, they're not relevant to being First Lady.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
26. Sure, there are no laws about First Ladies, but in the court of public opinion, she's untrustworthy
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:25 PM
Dec 2014

Why would you want her out there doing good deeds with various organizations only to worry that her, or the family will have her pilfering from them????

She lied to the feds...so taxpayers should pay for them to now protect her?

I would say this family is done and to stick a fork in them. If we don't believe in integrity, and don't feel it should be an issue, then get ready to lose, and to have another BUSH in the WH.

How awful for everyone.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
5. This 'smart one' was implacated with Poppy in the Silverado Savings and Loan scam/scandal
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:32 AM
Dec 2014

Along with many other illegal activities! Bank robbers and drug dealers the Bush's are.....

UpInArms

(51,642 posts)
12. It was actually Broward Savings and Loan in Florida
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 11:36 AM
Dec 2014
Thrift Failed After a Loan to Bush's Son Jeb

October 15, 1990|From Associated Press

NEW YORK — A savings and loan became insolvent after lending President Bush's son Jeb and a partner about half the money toward purchase of a $9-million office building, and the federal government ended up repaying most of the loan, the New York Times reported.

Although it involved no criminal behavior, the loan is an example of the kind of poor lending practices that led to the thrift industry's troubles, the newspaper said.

California Federal Bank of Los Angeles ending up buying the failed thrift, Broward Federal Savings and Loan of Sunrise, Fla., from federal regulators two years ago.

The Jeb Bush transaction was unrelated to civil charges that the president's youngest son, Neil, 35, acted improperly in his role as a director of Silverado Banking, Savings and Loan Association of Denver. That S&L failed in 1988 after making questionable loans.

The Miami deal involves Jeb Bush, 37, and his partner, Armando Codina, who own a partnership called 1390 Brickell.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
8. We are living in a new Neocon Era.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:43 AM
Dec 2014

I've been saying that for more than a year, since the Gouta chemical attack. It was so obvious that the MSM had flipped back into Bush era propaganda mode but this time on steroids. And since then we've had a number of neocon propaganda stunts.

And the media will coddle both Bush and Clinton as they try to outdo each other on who can be more interventionist, all the while ignoring that it was foreign adventurism that caused many of the problems in the first place.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
10. Don't be afraid of Jeb, I just took a peek on Freak Republic
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 10:55 AM
Dec 2014

Wow. You think we say nasty things about Hillary? When we do someone will always jump in and say "She will be better than any Republican!" or "It's against DU rules not to support the Democratic nominee!" Well, on FR they are universally against Jeb or any other Bush again!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
11. You can't count on the Freepers
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 11:24 AM
Dec 2014

Yes, they're universally against Jeb (or Christie, for that matter) -- but they were universally against McCain in 2008 and Romney in 2012. In 2012, JimRob wrote, "I'd rather shut the place down than be involved in any effort to install abortionist/gay rights pushing RINOS like Romney or Giuliani into the White House!! Do NOT push this crap on FR. Take your business elsewhere!!" By the time of the election, however, he stated on the site that he was voting for Romney.

The only hope I see, and it's a very faint one, is if Palin or Cruz or some such RWNJ actually runs as a third-party candidate. Otherwise, FR will come around and endorse the Republican nominee, just as most of us on DU who dislike Hillary will hold our noses and vote for her if she's the Democratic nominee.

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
15. "...Free elections,...and the release of political prisoners on the communist island."
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:13 PM
Dec 2014

Woo-hoo! Jebby just called for the repeal of voter suppression laws and the closing of Guantanamo!

Didn't he?

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
25. The joke's on him, Cuba is a democracy.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:13 PM
Dec 2014

It's just not Capitalist, and so Americans are taught propaganda that Cuba is akin to North Korea.

eringer

(460 posts)
17. Sickening to listen to this guy
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:32 PM
Dec 2014

"Jeb Bush inverted those criticisms of Obama, pointing to the chaos in Syria and the rise of the terrorist group ISIS there and in Iraq."
Yeah, right. Your stinking brother destroyed the little stability they had in the middle east and you blame Obama? You are pathetic.

Dawson Leery

(19,358 posts)
20. If he is the nominee, the pundit class and Christian madrasas will do everything to
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 12:49 PM
Dec 2014

get this thug into the Whitehouse.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
30. And will Dems, Libs, Progressives GOTV to stop him?
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:32 PM
Dec 2014

I am not hopeful.

And the DNC will cower in a corner, offering "compromise and bi-partisanship" before he's even elected.

 

TheNutcracker

(2,104 posts)
32. Not if it's Hillary. We all know the history, and it's tiresome. We need an alternative for all for
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 01:48 PM
Dec 2014

GOTV

Gumboot

(531 posts)
34. It'll all be fixed in the primaries...
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 04:31 PM
Dec 2014

Any disruptive populists will be weeded out, and we'll be guaranteed another Bush presidency - whether that comes courtesy of Jeb or Hillary.

I can shout and scream for a Warren / Sanders 2016 ticket as loud as I like, but our voting system is now massively rigged against any kind of popular choice.

The corporate coup d'etat is almost complete.





 

Legalequilibrium78

(103 posts)
35. Who is your alternative
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014

Candidate in mind? Inquiring mind wants to know. If Gov.Jeb Bush wishes to have a go, at running for President let him have a crack at it. But this ridiculous angst and fear from you that if it's Hillary who wins the nomination and not some magical left-wing alternative, the Democrats are toast in Thar 2016 presidential election?

You can't really help yourself take a dig at Hillary at every turn huh. I will take (as most Americans) Clinton's record over the Bushe's any day, and every time. The Clintons are a winner, Hillary is of no exception. Field your candidate of choice and discuss his or her merits as to why that person is a much worthy candidate than Hillary. If you don't have any substantive things to say, other than conjecture then stop hyperventilating and worse quit acting like chicken little against any Republican candidates. They are all a joke, Jeb Bush included.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
38. I see what you're saying.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 07:41 PM
Dec 2014

Of course, many Republicans will still back their guy, just out of partisan fury, but many moderates got *real* tired of the Bush family after Dubya fucked things up all to hell. And some of them may not be enthused about Hillary, either, but many would be quite likely to pick her over Jeb.

CrispyQ

(37,732 posts)
36. Clinton vs Bush. Gag.
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 06:20 PM
Dec 2014

I think there are a ton of people, some dems included, who want a white man back in charge. I don't think Clinton is a hands down winner.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
37. "laid out his foreign policy precepts, which closely mirror that of his brother"
Wed Dec 3, 2014, 07:19 PM
Dec 2014

Seriously? He is going with "I don't know a goddamn thing" ?

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