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Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:51 AM

 

Officer Darren Wilson Suffered “Orbital Blowout Fracture to Eye Socket” During Mike Brown Attack

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Source: The Gateway Pundit

The Gateway Pundit can now confirm from two local St. Louis sources that police Officer Darren Wilson suffered facial fractures during his confrontation with deceased 18 year-old Michael Brown. This was after Michael Brown and his accomplice Dorian Johnson robbed a local Ferguson convenience store. Local St. Louis sources said Wilson suffered an “orbital blowout fracture to the eye socket.” This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police.

Read more: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/08/breaking-report-po-darren-wilson-suffered-orbital-blowout-fracture-to-eye-socket-during-encounter-with-mike-brown/



spin control now coming from the DA's office, they need to take McCulloch off the case now

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big_dog Aug 2014 OP
underpants Aug 2014 #1
big_dog Aug 2014 #4
ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #13
big_dog Aug 2014 #35
ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #42
kath Aug 2014 #44
ColesCountyDem Aug 2014 #58
frylock Aug 2014 #2
underpants Aug 2014 #8
KansDem Aug 2014 #54
underpants Aug 2014 #61
CincyDem Aug 2014 #65
ReRe Aug 2014 #16
liberalmuse Aug 2014 #3
olddad56 Aug 2014 #5
alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #23
Voice for Peace Aug 2014 #64
Unvanguard Aug 2014 #6
big_dog Aug 2014 #11
jwirr Aug 2014 #7
barbtries Aug 2014 #21
GliderGuider Aug 2014 #68
jwirr Aug 2014 #73
exboyfil Aug 2014 #9
bigdarryl Aug 2014 #30
HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #10
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2014 #26
KurtNYC Aug 2014 #12
arcane1 Aug 2014 #20
tyne Aug 2014 #28
appal_jack Aug 2014 #63
4139 Aug 2014 #34
jayfish Aug 2014 #38
4139 Aug 2014 #56
jayfish Aug 2014 #59
951-Riverside Aug 2014 #14
cstanleytech Aug 2014 #15
barbtries Aug 2014 #17
napi21 Aug 2014 #47
FarPoint Aug 2014 #55
hobbit709 Aug 2014 #18
alcibiades_mystery Aug 2014 #19
big_dog Aug 2014 #37
Unvanguard Aug 2014 #48
Avalux Aug 2014 #22
heaven05 Aug 2014 #24
Unvanguard Aug 2014 #25
heaven05 Aug 2014 #31
Sanity Claws Aug 2014 #77
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Fred Sanders Aug 2014 #29
still_one Aug 2014 #32
bigworld Aug 2014 #33
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FarPoint Aug 2014 #39
ReRe Aug 2014 #40
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JustAnotherGen Aug 2014 #46
Unvanguard Aug 2014 #50
Mike Daniels Aug 2014 #49
Unvanguard Aug 2014 #51
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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:53 AM

1. Release. The. Report.

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Response to underpants (Reply #1)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:54 AM

4. I would feel more comfortable if Governor Jay Nixon takes these fools off the case

 

its going to be worse if they continue this sham of an investigation

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Response to big_dog (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:01 PM

13. Gov. Nixon can't.

Neither the MO constitution nor MO statutes permit him to remove a duly-elected official.

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Response to ColesCountyDem (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:20 PM

35. thats not what they said on Chris Hayes MSNBC show last night

 

on 'All In' Chris Hayes kept asking Gov Nixon if he had the power to take them off the investigation and he never said no. (and kept dodging the answers)

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Response to big_dog (Reply #35)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:28 PM

42. I live 70 miles SE of St. Louis, and have listened to local coverage as well as MSM 'news'.

This is not a brand-new question, believe it or not. I've heard both the MO A.G. and the head of the MO Bar Association asked this very question by KMOX-AM 1120, and both have categorically stated that it's a power not granted to the Governor. I'll take their word for it, at this point.

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Response to ColesCountyDem (Reply #13)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:29 PM

44. He, or the State AG, can't appoint a special prosecutor to replace McCulloch?

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Response to kath (Reply #44)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:38 PM

58. The short answer is 'no'.

He can request the appointment of a special prosecutor, or ask the A.G. to 'supplement' his office with an Assistant A.G., but unless there's a clear and unequivocal conflict of interest, he can't be denied the right to exercise the powers of his office.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:53 AM

2. yet he still managed to shoot Mike Brown in the head. twice.

I wonder which officer administered the blow?

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:58 AM

8. He slipped in the shower

38 times

I was thinking - he must have taken a brutal beating to substatiate this. Wasn't this in "Dirty Harry"? I remember a black leather glove being used.

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Response to underpants (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:36 PM

54. Yes, it was in "Dirty Harry."

A killer named "The Scorpio Killer" paid someone to "mark him up." Then he blamed it on Callahan.

And there was a black leather glove used.

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Response to KansDem (Reply #54)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:39 PM

61. Thanks

I saw that as a kid and remember thinking - "Wow that guy has made some bad choices"

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Response to underpants (Reply #8)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:44 PM

65. Better to take this beating once now, probably from helpful "friends"...



...than to take it daily in a prison. Cop life expectancy in prison has to be measured in weeks, maybe months...certainly not years. (especially for this crime).

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Response to frylock (Reply #2)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:03 PM

16. I wondered the same thing...

... after hearing the witnesses that came forward.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:54 AM

3. I see what they did there. N/t

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:55 AM

5. shouldn't there be a photo?

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Response to olddad56 (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:06 PM

23. They scrubbed every photo of the guy except one where he gets a commendation

 

This is a professional PR campaign with the St. Louis DA, the Ferguson PD, and the St. Louis County PD acting as defense counsel, investigators, and PR team for a killer.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #23)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:43 PM

64. there's some video of him immediately after the shooting.. no sign of injury

 

so if he's got a fracture like that, it probably came while he
was en route to undisclosed location.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:58 AM

6. Anonymous sources to the right-wing tabloid press.

Don't see this being reported elsewhere.

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Response to Unvanguard (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:59 AM

11. more evidence that this DA should be off the job

 

"This comes from a source within the District Attorney’s office and confirmed by the St. Louis County Police."

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:58 AM

7. Did he run into a door by chance?

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Response to jwirr (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:04 PM

21. possibly in his rush

to get out of the vehicle and murder Mike Brown.

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Response to jwirr (Reply #7)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:50 PM

68. The door of his own police vehicle

 

When he slammed it into Michael Brown it bounced back and caught him in the head.

IMHO.

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Response to GliderGuider (Reply #68)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:01 PM

73. Exactly what I was thinking.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:59 AM

9. There is pretty good video of him

pacing around Brown's body after the incident. Can that be blown up and enhanced to look for injuries?

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:14 PM

30. I think they can do that with the technology they have today if it shows

 

He isn't injured then someone is lying there ass of for him

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 11:59 AM

10. And he can place 6 bullets in a tight pattern while blind?

 

Yea, right. :rolleyes:

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Response to HooptieWagon (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:11 PM

26. Blind with rage. nt

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:00 PM

12. the cell phone video shows him just pacing and standing after the shooting

hard to see an eye injury there and he doesn't seem to be seeking treatment for it

Wilson is said to be on the right here:

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:04 PM

20. Nobody in that video behaves as if their freakin' skull was fractured.

 

We'll definitely need more than "a source within the District Attorney’s office", especially since there should be a report, and a hospital visit.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:12 PM

28. So true

Wilson, not once, puts his hand up to his eye to indicate that it's injured.

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Response to tyne (Reply #28)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:42 PM

63. SO important. Glad that video exists. k&r, nt

 

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #12)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:19 PM

34. Edit, oops, I believed something some post that can't be true.

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Response to 4139 (Reply #34)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:25 PM

38. That's weird. Seeing as she's been dead for longer than FB has existed.

queue Twilight Zone music.

Also, aren't clipper cuts automatic once you start your beat?

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Response to jayfish (Reply #38)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:37 PM

56. Pic of Wilson from FATHERs Facebook

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Response to 4139 (Reply #56)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:38 PM

59. From February -NT-

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:02 PM

14. Where did he police truck go and how did it get back to the station? n/t

 

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:03 PM

15. Maybe, maybe not. It depends on what the medical records show.

But even if the kid did hit him I still dont see a reason that justifies the officer shooting him 6 times.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:03 PM

17. show me

why is that guy out of town, not in jail? show me his injuries you assholes. and is it your point that he was justified in shooting an unarmed teenager?

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Response to barbtries (Reply #17)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:30 PM

47. You asked why he isn't in jail.

Please try to listen to Mike Papantonio's interview on MSNBC yesterday. He was on either Ed Schultz' show orr the one right before Ed. Mike made the ONLY valid (as I see it) reason that Wilson is not in jail already.I cant quote, but he said "Please people, you need to give the Fed prosecutors some time to put together a good case BEFORE an arrest is made BECAUSE as soon as an arrest is made, the "Speedy trial" law starts to run, and that give the prosecution only 60 days to file their case. Without the "speedy trial" law, they have 120 days. It's imperative that they get as many FACTS as possible to assure a win in court."

That's the first really GOOD explaination I've heard from anyone for the postponement. Mike is a very experienced attorney and a good one.

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Response to napi21 (Reply #47)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:37 PM

55. I'm sensing that the Federal team will be placing their heart and soul into this case.

Then ..that said...it's our only hope that they do. Otherwise, a rerun of the Trayvon Martin case.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:03 PM

18. And the moon is made of green cheese.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:04 PM

19. DA's office, Ferguson PD, and St. Louis County PD are acting as defense counsel for Wilson

 

And his public relations team.

It seems pretty clear at this point that Darren Wilson will not even be charged with anything for executing this young man in the street.

Good luck being the next town where you give your cops license to kill young black men in the street.

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:24 PM

37. thank god our President put AG Holder in charge of the federal investigation

 

because everyone can now tell the St Louis investigation isnt going anywhere, they can't stop themselves from framing Mike Brown!

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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #19)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:30 PM

48. Conceivable DOJ could go after him. And a lawsuit is definitely possible.

But I agree, no way the DA is going to bring charges.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:05 PM

22. This is what an "orbital blowout fracture to eye socket" is, and looks like:

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:06 PM

24. this 'source'

 

seems pretty right wing in it's reporting BS and the type of racist and ignorant comments in that section of this 'source'. I know of no local witnesses confirming officer wilson's story and I would have liked to have seen wilson immediately after his MURDER of Michael Brown to confirm this eye bone fracture story. He's been punched by a friend by now to spruce up his lies when they start.

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Response to heaven05 (Reply #24)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:09 PM

25. We have video of Wilson immediately after.

It's posted elsewhere in this thread. It's not clear enough to say definitively, but he doesn't look like someone who's suffered a serious injury.

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Response to Unvanguard (Reply #25)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:15 PM

31. okay, I watched that witness video phone

 

account. He doesn't look injured. I'm sure that it, the video, can be enhanced to prove yay or nay. thanks.

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Response to Unvanguard (Reply #25)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:06 PM

77. That's what I was thinking about too

If he had been injured, he would not have been hanging around the area, particularly after the officer came on the scene.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:12 PM

27. Definition of an orbital blow-out fracture

 

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:12 PM

29. Gateway Pundit? Who are they? More like Backwards Vomit.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:16 PM

32. what kind of bullshit is this. Who is releasing this supposed information?

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:17 PM

33. If true, why did they wait so long to release this info?

People would be a lot more understanding about the shooting if there actually was such a scuffle. As it stands now, the police have zero credibility... why should they be believed now?



----------------
AND WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE AUTOPLAY ON DU? eeesh.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:21 PM

36. Wow...

Some guy who can have his orbital bone broken and then fire six shots into an unarmed person and then walk calmly around the body for hours without holding his hand to his face or seeking medical treatment is such a fucking Superman!

I would have been in the fetal position screaming.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:26 PM

39. From what I understand, he was standing over Michaels body for at least an hour.

A lady has a video of him...zoom in and look at his eye.
Jeeze, this is straight out of the George Zimmerman playbook!

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:27 PM

40. Hey big_dog...

...What the heck is "www.thegatewaypundidt.com"? Definitely DA spin.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:27 PM

41. Zimmerman got off

Because he went home and shaved his head, nicked himself a few times, Let the blood drip, then took photos and told everyone he had his head slammed into the side walk.

That policeman had someone pummel him for effect.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:28 PM

43. Bullshit. If it were true...THAT would have been the story

I'm sorry...there needs to be irrefutable proof of this, not just the "reports' from a corrupt law enforcement system in St. Louis County. They are all murderous thugs.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:29 PM

45. Just a couple flaws in the above story that I'd like to point out...

Ferguson Police Busted – Attempt To Defame Shooting Victim Blows Up In Their Face (VIDEO)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/ferguson-pd-busted/


Baden: ‘No Evidence of a Struggle’ Between Michael Brown and Murderer (Video)

http://aattp.org/baden-no-evidence-of-a-struggle-between-michael-brown-and-murderer-video/

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:30 PM

46. If that's true

then he should have been taken to the hospital immediately, examined, been given a drug/alcohol test. I'm pretty sure the Workman's Comp insurance companies operate across the board in the same manner. And he would most likely need a disability leave -

That's why the incident report is so critical - and that's why the Thug Chief is hiding it from us.




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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #46)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:32 PM

50. Good point, presumably he would have gotten medical treatment in the immediate aftermath.

Should be a record of that somewhere.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:31 PM

49. Any bruising or abrasions on Brown's knuckles?

If you hit someone hard enough to fracture part of their skull I imagine there's some damage to your hand as well.

I didn't hear about anything matching a similar type of injury on Brown's corpse during the autopsy reports yesterday.

This seems simple enough to check out but I wouldn't expect the media to follow up given the lackluster job they've displayed so far.

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Response to Mike Daniels (Reply #49)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:33 PM

51. They said his body showed no signs of struggle. n/t

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:36 PM

52. Worse than the orbital bone fracture ...

 

from that story at the top :
https://twitter.com/ChristineDByers/statuses/501556693382094848
Christine Byers ✔ @ChristineDByers

Police sources tell me more than a dozen witnesses have corroborated cop's version of events in shooting #Ferguson



http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/justice-department-orders-new-autopsy-of-michael-browns-body/2014/08/18/023a4d12-2694-11e4-958c-268a320a60ce_story.html?hpid=z1
authorities said Holder would arrive in Ferguson on Wednesday and meet with some of the FBI agents and prosecutors investigating the case. They have interviewed more than 200 people, scouring the area where Brown was shot by Darren Wilson, an officer with Ferguson’s police department.



I wonder how many have corroborated the other witnesses version of events, who do not agree with the officer ...

Would have been a good question for the reporter to have asked

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Response to cleduc (Reply #52)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:01 PM

74. Did the woman caller identify herself?

 

I'm SURE she was an actual witness, if her version matches
Wilson's. sure she was...

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:36 PM

53. It is the full Trayon/Zimmerman treatment

 

No pics at the time of the incident, no trip to the hospital. Now, a week later he shows up with injuries. I see they learned from the Zimmerman thing.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:37 PM

57. Yeah, right.

This sounds like a load of bullshit.

What kind of apologist rag is the The Gateway Pundit anyway?

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:38 PM

60. From the district attorney and the county police

Now there are two disinterested parties in the outcome of this thing.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:40 PM

62. Call me an idiot, but this story smells like a hoax

Quick Google® search shows EVERY link leads back to Gateway Pundit. If there was any there there, the Fifth Estate would be on this like a fly on shit. Why hasn't any MSM picked up and run with this startling revelation?

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:48 PM

66. "...his accomplice"???

 

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:49 PM

67. Since when was Jim Fuckin' Hoft a legit source for LBN??

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:52 PM

69. Well, you knew some source(s) wishing to remain unnamed would leak this to...........

some RW blog(s) at the right time. We knew he was "bum-rushes" and "Punches him in the face" from a friend(s) and/or source(s) wishing to remain unnamed disclosure in another RW blog(s).

Good to know the police report bares this out.
Oh wait, what police report?

If the truth is ever stated in the police report, if there ever is a police report, it will be all but irreverent.
The truth that was sold (and gratefully bought) will already be urban legend.
Simply another example of how RW alternate reality is put together.

Expect pictures when the timing is right.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:52 PM

70. Complete and utter bullcrap

If such an injury really existed, they would have released a photo of it, if not right away, then on Friday when they ID'd Wilson.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:54 PM

71. Rhetorical Question Alert

Why was this 'critical' information released to a rightwing blog instead of a MSM like the St Louis Post Dispatch or CNN?

Where are the medical report, pictures, x-rays? If the "confrontation" is going to be used in court as a justification for the shooting, one would presume those would be available.

Where is Wilson? Because if he took a shot to the head severe enough to justify lethal force, the effect should still be visible.

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 12:55 PM

72. Is there a non-bullshit right wing blog source for this?





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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:03 PM

75. When did "The Gateway Pundit" become a credible news source?

LBN rules: sources must be "reputable mainstream news websites and blogs"

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:05 PM

76. okay I'll play, so who did the

double tap on murder Michael Brown's head?

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Response to big_dog (Original post)

Tue Aug 19, 2014, 01:07 PM

78. Locking. The Gateway Pundit is a RW blog and is at best a questionable source.

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