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Omaha Steve

(99,556 posts)
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 07:32 PM Mar 2012

(NE-R) Senate hopefuls would repeal health law

Source: Omaha World Herald


By Robynn Tysver

If the U.S. Supreme Court throws out the federal health care law, the question becomes: "What then?"

All three major Republican candidates for U.S. Senate in Nebraska support the repeal of President Barack Obama's Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act in its entirety, including popular provisions that require insurance companies to cover people with pre-existing conditions and end the insurers' lifetime caps on covered expenses.

However, none of them has put forth a comprehensive plan to overhaul the nation's system of insuring health care.

Nebraska Attorney General Jon Bruning, State Treasurer Don Stenberg and State Sen. Deb Fischer all said they would look for ways to reduce health care costs once in office, including allowing insurance companies to compete across state lines, fostering larger insurance pools for small businesses and limiting medical malpractice lawsuits.


Read more: http://www.omaha.com/article/20120331/NEWS01/703319886/0#senate-hopefuls-would-repeal-health-law

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(NE-R) Senate hopefuls would repeal health law (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2012 OP
Not sure I would consider this "News" brooklynite Mar 2012 #1
Ain't that the truth! jmowreader Mar 2012 #2
OH I personally wouldnt object to putting caps on malpractice cstanleytech Mar 2012 #3
Malpractice caps hurt patients LastLiberal in PalmSprings Apr 2012 #5
Broad and unwavering caps on malpractice I agree would cause harm. cstanleytech Apr 2012 #6
Quite a lot of malpractice involves things like medication errors jmowreader Apr 2012 #7
What The Wikipedia Page On Medical Malpractice Says DallasNE Apr 2012 #4
Allowing competition over state lines and limiting lawsuits has been the GOP alternative forever. Kablooie Apr 2012 #8

jmowreader

(50,543 posts)
2. Ain't that the truth!
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 10:28 PM
Mar 2012

And their "reform" is always the same shit: get rid of malpractice lawsuits and have everyone buy their insurance from Blue Cross of West Virginia, and your bills will go WAY down.

All together now: yeah, right.

cstanleytech

(26,273 posts)
3. OH I personally wouldnt object to putting caps on malpractice
Sat Mar 31, 2012, 11:08 PM
Mar 2012

as long as there is no crime involved in it such as the crime of being drunk when operating or knowingly using an out of date or defective product in a surgery provided there is a solid national healthcare system in place.
Course my bet is the odds on that are greater than the odds were for me having a chance to have the sole ticket for that recent mega millions jackpot because after all we are dealing with the republican party, you know the party of "Die faster is our heathcare plan" republican party.

5. Malpractice caps hurt patients
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 07:27 AM
Apr 2012

With a malpractice cap in place, no attorney would be willing to take a medical malpractice case. It's expensive to put one together -- depositions, expert witnesses, paying to have medical records analyzed. All of these expenses are paid up front by the lawyer, and recovered only if the case is won or settled. Being a plaintiff's attorney is being a gambler; you weigh the costs against the benefits (profit) and evaluate your chances of winning. If the odds are good you take the case. Limiting the amount of recovery would eliminate any possibility of making a profit, and could result in a sizable loss. There's no person alive -- lawyer or otherwise -- who would take those odds.

Since he couldn't find an attorney who will take the case, the injured patient is stuck with whatever the insurance company will give them, which is maxed out by the malpractice cap. And the insurance company will be the one who decides what's appropriate. If you require lifetime care because of an auto accident (I have a friend who is a vegetable due to a rear-ender) the amount the company has to pay is limited by law. And forget about lost wages, or the cost of hiring someone to do all the things you used to do around the house, or the fact that you live in constant pain. A law establishing a malpractice cap will also delineate exactly what will be covered. I can tell you for certain that such things as "loss of consortium" (inability to have a sex life) won't be on the list. Nor pain and suffering. And forget about valuing the worth of a housewife. To pay for having someone else to do everything she does has been estimated at almost $100,000 annually. Yeah, an insurance company will go for that!

When I practiced law I would tell clients that an insurance company wants to pay "as little as possible, as late as possible -- if at all." I would also tell them that no matter how good their case was, once the jury went into the jury room to make its decision all bets were off. One trial I saw had a juror who was a long time (i.e., strong personality) secretary for an insurance salesman. The case was about an insurance company who had refused to honor its obligations to a widow, even though she and her husband had made all premium payments. A sweet little old lady plaintiff, clear evidence of wrongdoing on the insurance company. Everyone in the courtroom knew what the jury's verdict would be . . . but guess how it turned out --

Tort reform is just like voter fraud. Something that sounds logical on its face but is really evil once you look into it.

cstanleytech

(26,273 posts)
6. Broad and unwavering caps on malpractice I agree would cause harm.
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 02:49 PM
Apr 2012

However like I said I would only support some caps if there was a national heathcare plan in place and I mean a good one atleast as good as the one the senators get in washington.
Also it wouldnt cap if there was criminal behavior involved so if a doctors drunk and operates and causes someone harm then the cap doesnt exist and you can sue their ass off.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
4. What The Wikipedia Page On Medical Malpractice Says
Sun Apr 1, 2012, 01:08 AM
Apr 2012

It seems as Bruning, Stenberg and Fischer are chasing after a problem that is self-correcting. My guess is that 2009 is the last year for which data is available.

"(T)ort costs as a percentage of GDP dropped between 2001 and 2009, and are now at their lowest level since 1984"


If these 3 are wrong about this, one has to wonder about their other points. I recall discussions during the ACA debate on those other points but don't recall the outcome. Using old, outdated talking points is a ploy long used by politicans, particularly Republicans.

Kablooie

(18,619 posts)
8. Allowing competition over state lines and limiting lawsuits has been the GOP alternative forever.
Mon Apr 2, 2012, 02:42 AM
Apr 2012

That is exactly what they proposed as an alternative plan and of course will propose again if given the chance.
They always said it would control prices and make insurance affordable for everyone.

Anyone that says the GOP doesn't have an alternative health proposal is just wrong.

It's a stupid alternative, true, but has that ever been an issue for a Republican proposal?
And has that ever prevented Republicans from voting Republican? Of course not!

They have an alternative and if they get the chance, they will exude it proudly all over the country claiming that they have a plan that's constitutional and doable while the Democrats pushed an un-constitutional, unworkable plan.

And many votes will rotate back to Republican based on this claim.

Count on it.

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